2023 Prospect Poll #3
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Savoie, add Kozak. In reality there’s 10 guys you could add and I wouldn’t argue
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Just a heads up, Kris Baker started livestreaming on youtube: Baker's Bunker
Butt Ox
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similar to the #2 prospect vote, whats the point of the 4th best vote? For discussion/nomination?
The loser here will run away with the 4th spot
The loser here will run away with the 4th spot
Zman5778
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I dunno. The #2 prospect vote sure seemed appropriate -- I think there was a genuine question of where Levi's votes would go.............especially considering how many here do consider performance at higher levels as a real factor.
That said -- I don't feel like there's as big of a question this time as regards prospect poll 4. I think that the rather vast majority of votes will go to whoever loses this one as I think that it's pretty clear that no matter how one personally arranges the top 4.......there's a very clear top 4.
We're still going to have prospect poll 4, because that's what we do. But I do agree that poll 4 feels more like a formality to me than poll 2 did.
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Gerstmann 3:16
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Sure, if he met expectations. Did you expect him to:
“ put together one of the most productive seasons ever by an 18-year-old skater in 2022-23, leading the Amerks and finishing tied for sixth amongst all AHL rookies with 24 goals while his 46 points were tied for 11th among first-year players. Kulich, the youngest regular player in the AHL this season, was only the fourth player in league history to score more than 20 goals during his 18-year-old season (turning 19 after Jan. 1) and first since Robert Dome of Syracuse recorded 21 in 1997-98. Kulich also became just the second Amerks player in franchise history to reach the mark as an 18-year-old since Jozef Cierny scored 27 during his only season in Rochester in 1992-93.
Kulich, who turned 19 on Apr. 14, then notched 11 points in 12 Calder Cup Playoff games – including scoring a goal in each of his first six postseason contests – to help the Amerks reach the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time since 2004. His seven goals and 11 points in the postseason rank second and third amongst all rookies, respectively, while his six-game goal-scoring streak and seven-game point were the longest in the playoffs.
A first-round pick (28th overall) by Buffalo in the 2022 NHL Draft, Kulich won a silver medal with Czechia at the 2023 World Junior Championship.”
Because if that’s what you expected then kudos to you.
Weltschmerz
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Could not decide between the other 2 and Rosy had a great playoff run.
debaser66
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As of now its 1 vote difference so I dont get your logic. Kulich should be a runaway
If I understand you correctly.
But many Benson voters from #2 consider Savoie over Kulich like me and thats why the vote is necessary.
i meant the Benson win
You don't understand me correctly lol...I'm saying next vote is automatic
I expected him to excel relative to other players in the first round. Sure he is showing a greater chance of reaching his ceiling, I just don't think its that high in the NHL.
MarkusKetterer
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Who do you think will win #4? The remainder of Savoie/Kulich, or Ostlund/Rosen?
It’s #6 where it gets interesting between Johnson, Novikov and Poltapov.
Beerz
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His ceiling is a 40 goal 1st line winger.
Where as I see Savoie's ceiling as a 2nd line Center. Pretty comparable ceilings to me.
Levi
Benson
Savoie
Kulich
Ostlund
Rosen
Novikov
Johnson
Rousek
Wahlberg
That's my top ten prediction
K8fool
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First I've heard of Savoie's ceiling not even being top line. You do realize Savoie is a potential 80-100 point player? Kulich will not be a ppg player. He may get 40, but won't get that many assists and won't be a 1st liner. He does not have any above average traits outside of shot, it is unrealistic to expect that much from him.
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Beerz
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I mean just go back to the day we drafted him... all the reports were top 6 forward ... and average hockey sense will keep him from being top line talent.
You are over selling him.
Bendium
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With Kulich all I had to do was watch his post draft video to have a good feeling that there might be something special there.
Things that stood out (paraphrased):
1. What is your plan next year? Answer: To play in the NHL.
2. What is your plan B? Answer: There is no plan B.
3. Do you prefer center or wing? Answer: I plan to move to left wing where there are less defensive responsibilities and I can play my game.
4. You have contact with Jagr. Do you try to model your game after him? Answer: No! I play my style. More like Pasternak.
It was clear back then that this kid knew exactly where he wanted to go and had a plan to get there. His personality and presence in that interview left me no doubt the effort he would put into getting there. His first AHL season shows he has follow thru. There is also a benefit to knowing exactly where your going and what your trying to be at his age. It means your focus is narrower and your practice time is more efficient. Its hard to fight the data that shows him on a trajectory to be a top line winger.
debaser66
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Odd, most reports say he fell due to size. Same as Benson I assume. Hockey sense is a weird hill to die on, considering Kulich isn't even known to have above average hockey sense. You are under selling him. There are very few players in the entire NHL with higher upside than Savoie. Point is his ceiling.
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