2023 Prospect Poll #2

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Who is the Sabres’ #2 prospect?

  • Ryan Johnson, D

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  • Maxim Strbak, D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Isak Rosen, W

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Noah Ostlund, C

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Anton Wahlberg, C/W

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lukas Rousek, W

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    165
  • Poll closed .
Maybe because Benson is what he is, short, quick, high motor elite playmaking. Sound like someone on our team? (Krebs). Savoie has potential game breaking all star level potential. Also short, faster, high motor, elite playmaking, and a better shot. The out producing is kind of a crap argument with Savoie coming off a shoulder injury. I think it is more unreasonable Benson is chosen over Savoie for top prospect.


Exactly this.

Voted Savoie, board is way over rating Kulich. An average Hockey player with an elite shot is our second best prospect?
Kulich was arguably the best player at this years WJC not named Bedard. He was phenomenal against his peers. He would go top 5 if they redrafted 2022. Instead of being mad about people thinking he jumped Savoie, maybe be thrilled that it looks like we hit an absolute home run with the 28th pick.
 
Voted Benson. Will vote Savoie next round. Rationale: I like the skill set and the way Savoie works his angles and sneaks that shot in, and his work in motion. Good vision on this one and a hard worker.
Oh, I can't wait to read these debates tomorrow. Kulich really showed a lot in the playoffs. Should be an interesting read!
 
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It is a protest voting for not having Poltapov in the poll initially. :)

Russian factor. We’re able to see North American prospects more. Based on the level that we’ve seen them perform at already, the top 3 are Levi (NHL), Novikov & Poltapov tied (KHL), and then Savoie, Kulich and Rosen (AHL). And then the Viking in von Barnekow-Lofberg because of his name, and then everyone else.
 
I've always thought we should all have some universal way to rate our prospects since it seems everyone is rating differently.

Me personally I am going by highest ceiling, nothing else so I will be voting Savoie next even tho Kulich has proven more currently. I judge it by if both reached max potential, Savoie would have the higher ceiling.
 
I've always thought we should all have some universal way to rate our prospects since it seems everyone is rating differently.

Me personally I am going by highest ceiling, nothing else so I will be voting Savoie next even tho Kulich has proven more currently. I judge it by if both reached max potential, Savoie would have the higher ceiling.

I vote by blindly clicking. Until you bastards recognize Joel Savage, even if he’s running a golf course in Calgary now.
 
Kulich was arguably the best player at this years WJC not named Bedard. He was phenomenal against his peers. He would go top 5 if they redrafted 2022. Instead of being mad about people thinking he jumped Savoie, maybe be thrilled that it looks like we hit an absolute home run with the 28th pick.
Tuning in for Kulich is how I first saw Strbak, playing for the opposition. I thought MS had a decent showing throughout the games and was noticeable in a good way. Kind of glad the Sabres have both of them.

So far, out of the shiny new toys, I like Strbak in the pressers. Good interview, intelligent, well-spoken.
 
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I've always thought we should all have some universal way to rate our prospects since it seems everyone is rating differently.

Me personally I am going by highest ceiling, nothing else so I will be voting Savoie next even tho Kulich has proven more currently. I judge it by if both reached max potential, Savoie would have the higher ceiling.
You don't take into account the probability of the player hitting their ceiling?

A guy could have a lower ceiling than another but a better chance of hitting their ceiling.
 
We should jump right to #5…the second, third, and fourth spots are a foregone conclusion/waste of time. Five is where it gets interesting.
 
You don't take into account the probability of the player hitting their ceiling?

A guy could have a lower ceiling than another but a better chance of hitting their ceiling.
I think we all internally drop the ceiling rating because of past inefficiency to help prospects succeed. Those days appear to be over but the memory is a legacy to ineptitude.
 
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You don't take into account the probability of the player hitting their ceiling?

A guy could have a lower ceiling than another but a better chance of hitting their ceiling.
No, why would you? Everyone's curve is different, no one path is completely linear even tho a lot of posters like to use those arguments. I leave guesswork out and just look at a players ceiling. If they were to hit it, what player would they resemble past and present in the NHL and what was that player to the team.
 
No, why would you? Everyone's curve is different, no one path is completely linear even tho a lot of posters like to use those arguments. I leave guesswork out and just look at a players ceiling. If they were to hit it, what player would they resemble past and present in the NHL and what was that player to the team.

Odd. But ok.
 
Shoutout to the Novikov gigastan. That's either really really good for Buffalo if you're right, or really really bad.
 
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I don’t think it will be close at all.
Care to share who wins and the %'s?
I've always thought we should all have some universal way to rate our prospects since it seems everyone is rating differently.

Me personally I am going by highest ceiling, nothing else so I will be voting Savoie next even tho Kulich has proven more currently. I judge it by if both reached max potential, Savoie would have the higher ceiling.
I've been playing around in my head lately with the old circa 2005 Hockey's Future rating system of: realistic potential rating (1-10) and the player's realistic chances of actually achieving their potential (A-F). Ex: in fall 2005, Vanek was an 8.0A, Roy was a 7.0B, and Patrick Kaleta was a 6.0B.

They're imperfect and were probably abandoned for a reason, but the 2000s are back anyways so it might be fun to do retro rankings.

Vanek Fall 2005 HF Ranking
 
I don't get it. All year long I am aggressively told by this board that Savoie is our top prospect, going to be a top line player, and is untouchable in a trade. Now we draft his younger linemate from juniors and he is passed on the list by both Benson and Kulich? What happened? Shiny new object syndrome I guess.

That is just about the most inaccurate way you could frame that.
 
On two games. That is your sample size for Savoie in the AHL. Not even enough time to adjust.

Anyways I will just say I told everyone so in 3 years when Savoie is a 80-100 point winger.
Both of these kids are going to score some goals. And we're not clamoring to push them up because we need to fill their spots in the lineup. It's a good time to enjoy the Sabres.

I think they'll be different players and posters just have their preference. Kulich looks like a pure goal scorer while Savoie may be more rounded.
 
Why do people assume Kulich goes before Savoie? This is the vote for #2 not #3.
I voted Benson but I go with Savoie next.
Kulich was best player of tournament except Bedard and he had historical ahl season as rookie while being rochester's top goalscorer, its not even close really. He could even be n1 from what he accomplished so far.
 
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Why? There seems to be a "proven" vs "ceiling" discussion going on.
If it would be so clear people wouldnt argue.
Just judging by the conversation around here the past year -- people are very high on Kulich, and some seem to feel that Savoie brings somewhat of a redundant skillset in comparison.

Certainly fodder for an interesting discussion...I don't have much of an opinion on it myself, either way, as they seem about even.
 
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