Patriots/NFL 2023 Pre-Season - DA drops gun charges against Patriots CB Jack Jones

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Johnnyduke

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I'm sorry, if you're willing to risk your backup to waivers you don't really believe in him as a viable NFL QB.

It's good he'll be around since they don't have anyone else, but clearly they have a hole to fill at QB2.
Maybe not but they had to keep 11 OL which could have impacted this decision too. I don't really believe in Zappe as a long-term starter but when you watch Mac Jones last year it has me wanting more Zappe and maybe even Zo.
 
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imagine having spent time out of your life writing posts that said Zappe should have been the starter, only for him to not be claimed on waivers to even backup somewhere

That’s like half pats fan who are online lmao. Silliest fanbase in town.
Is this supposed to be a defense of the great Mac Jones? It's extremely funny seeing people flock to Mac's defense. He got outplayed by a nothing backup QB. Maybe we can all focus on Mac now anyway.

People continue to struggle with the idea that Zappe could have started against the Bears based on Mac's performance. That doesn't mean you firmly believe in Zappe.

Why are fans so uptight about this? Like Mac is some accomplished pillar of the organization. It's madness that this "controversy" gets such a reaction.
 

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I supported Zappe starting against the Bears. That wasn't me anointing him the savior. I just don't get the reactions this has led to.
 

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Is this supposed to be a defense of the great Mac Jones? It's extremely funny seeing people flock to Mac's defense. He got outplayed by a nothing backup QB. Maybe we can all focus on Mac now anyway.

People continue to struggle with the idea that Zappe could have started against the Bears based on Mac's performance. That doesn't mean you firmly believe in Zappe.

Why are fans so uptight about this? Like Mac is some accomplished pillar of the organization. It's madness that this "controversy" gets such a reaction.

Except he didn't.

And lets look at that mythical Chicago game shall we?

Yes, Zappe led the 2 quick TD drives when he came in to go up 17-14. Know what he did after that? Nothing. From the 17-14 point on the game went:

- Chicago TD
- Zappe fumble
- Chicago FG
- Half Time
- Chicago FG
- Zappe 3 and out
- Chicago FG
- Zappe 3 and out
- Chicago TD (33-14)
- Then 2 garbage time INT from Zappe

Once Chicago adjusted, Zappe was shut down completely.

And for the 1000th time, I am not a Jones supporter. I'm just sick of the Savior Zappe narrative. He's a backup at best
 
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And for the 1000th time, I am not a Jones supporter. I'm just sick of the Savior Zappe narrative. He's a backup at best
This sums up my problem. You quote me and throw out this garbage "Savior Zappe" narrative. Take that up with someone who actually believed that.
 

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How exactly did he get exposed playing more? When Mac came back he came in after Mac puked on himself again and threw a couple TDs. He didn't play again after that Bears game I don't think. Pretty tough to conclude he got exposed on that miniscule sample as a rookie. It's not like he started 8 games or something. I'm fine with him as the backup for now though. Ready to step in when Mac wets himself
he's 2-0 as a rookie starter. Almost beat GB and gave them a lead in that bears game after Mac put them in a hole.
How did it go for him after that td in the bears game? You all ignore the truth, and he had two bad INTs and a fumble. But hey, it doesn’t fit the narrative so I get it. LOFL
 

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How did it go for him after that td in the bears game? You all ignore the truth, and he had two bad INTs and a fumble. But hey, it doesn’t fit the narrative so I get it. LOFL
They cite the Meyers TD pass as a good play by him when nobody was within 30 yards of Meyers and he almost threw it away. Not much reason there.
 
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I'm sorry, if you're willing to risk your backup to waivers you don't really believe in him as a viable NFL QB.

It's good he'll be around since they don't have anyone else, but clearly they have a hole to fill at QB2.
That’s the thing, it wasn’t a risk, clearly. In a league that is driven by quarterbacks, with teams always struggling to find one, none of them deemed Zappe worth claiming. That says it all. He’s not the guy. Jones isn’t the guy either, imo, but Im damn sure he’d have been claimed had he hit waivers.
 
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Because no else wanted him.

when do you play an NFL game. let me know

Except he didn't.

And lets look at that mythical Chicago game shall we?

Yes, Zappe led the 2 quick TD drives when he came in to go up 17-14. Know what he did after that? Nothing. From the 17-14 point on the game went:

- Chicago TD
- Zappe fumble
- Chicago FG
- Half Time
- Chicago FG
- Zappe 3 and out
- Chicago FG
- Zappe 3 and out
- Chicago TD (33-14)
- Then 2 garbage time INT from Zappe

Once Chicago adjusted, Zappe was shut down completely.

And for the 1000th time, I am not a Jones supporter. I'm just sick of the Savior Zappe narrative. He's a backup at best

how did Mac do in that game who has much more experience than Zappe
 

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when do you play an NFL game. let me know
I get you’re a fan of Zappe, but if you’re being honest with yourself, you have to admit if the situation was reversed and Jones got put on waivers, he’d have been claimed in a heartbeat, no? Zappe didn’t even garner a sniff from any other team in a league starved for quarterback depth despite him being young. That’s pretty telling. Even more so is the coach here didn’t even think twice about putting him out there because he knew nobody would bother.
 

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What in the hell does this have to do with no other team wanting Zappe? And I will follow up with an equally dumb question. Have you played in the NFL?
I get you’re a fan of Zappe, but if you’re being honest with yourself, you have to admit if the situation was reversed and Jones got put on waivers, he’d have been claimed in a heartbeat, no? Zappe didn’t even garner a sniff from any other team in a league starved for quarterback depth despite him being young. That’s pretty telling. Even more so is the coach here didn’t even think twice about putting him out there because he knew nobody would bother.

I think zappe has potential. I wouldn't say it otherwise I doubt he was a 4th rd pick bc hes bad at football
 

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I think zappe has potential. I wouldn't say it otherwise I doubt he was a 4th rd pick bc hes bad at football
Yet no team in the league agrees with you. Like I said I fully understand you’re a fan, but really, this is more about your dislike of Jones than anything Zappe related. He was on waivers for anyone to claim and nobody did. The team he was on saw him play the majority of time this preseason thought so little of him they didn’t think twice about waiving him too. Literally every team said nah. Not good enough.
 

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How did it go for him after that td in the bears game? You all ignore the truth, and he had two bad INTs and a fumble. But hey, it doesn’t fit the narrative so I get it. LOFL
I'm not sure I understand the point nor am I spinning any narrative other than Mac Jones sucked ass last year so I was ok seeing the backup come in. I don't know why anyone would judge a rookie 4th round QB based on a sequence of one football game AFTER he came in for a guy who threw a god awful interception. It's just a strange hill to die on. All I ever said was based on the two games before that I was fine with seeing him play against the Bears. That's not a declaration on the future or that he's better than Mac Jones. The Mac Jones boo hoo crew can't even handle THAT?

That Bears game is probably the lowest point this franchise has had since the Pete Carroll era
When Mac threw the lollipop INT where the boo hoo crew tried saying it hit the ESPN wire? I agree!
 

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Yet no team in the league agrees with you. Like I said I fully understand you’re a fan, but really, this is more about your dislike of Jones than anything Zappe related. He was on waivers for anyone to claim and nobody did. The team he was on saw him play the majority of time this preseason thought so little of him they didn’t think twice about waiving him too. Literally every team said nah. Not good enough.

Bill probably had a plan waiving him and practice squad after. why would Bill bother if hes as bad as you say
 

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Except he didn't.

And lets look at that mythical Chicago game shall we?

Yes, Zappe led the 2 quick TD drives when he came in to go up 17-14. Know what he did after that? Nothing. From the 17-14 point on the game went:

- Chicago TD
- Zappe fumble
- Chicago FG
- Half Time
- Chicago FG
- Zappe 3 and out
- Chicago FG
- Zappe 3 and out
- Chicago TD (33-14)
- Then 2 garbage time INT from Zappe

Once Chicago adjusted, Zappe was shut down completely.
You also realize Mac got his ass benched right? So it's not like you can say well Mac outplayed him from the bench. You're even mentioning garbage time INTs. Well I guess that's better than throwing a game altering INT like Mac did to get his sat on the bench. There is not an argument to be made that Mac played better than Zappe in this game even if you want to argue Zappe was terrible.

But as I have been saying I don't care who the backup QB on this team is. I wouldn't have cared if Zappe landed with some other team. I just need Mac to play better football and the rest will take care of itself. That's all. Really not all that deep or complicated.

They cite the Meyers TD pass as a good play by him when nobody was within 30 yards of Meyers and he almost threw it away. Not much reason there.
Still a better moment than the made up ESPN wire interception. It was tough for Mac to complete the pass to Meyers from the bench. I'll grant you that.
 

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I would like to shift the focus back to this being a bad football team in general though, led by a bad GM. Middling QBs. Bad OL. Mediocre at best skill position group. 11 OL is downright comical.
 

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Patricia’s entire offense was brainless check downs

We run an offense now that requires the quarterback to actually make reads. Zappe couldn’t do that and held onto the ball way too long.
 
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