KrejciMVP
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good time to buy one of those Zappe jerseys on discount. I remember how we were lectured to support the jersey over Brady, then you see some rooting against Zappe who is a PATRIOT
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good time to buy one of those Zappe jerseys on discount. I remember how we were lectured to support the jersey over Brady, then you see some rooting against Zappe who is a PATRIOT
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Why do you say that? If anything, Zappe getting cut and nobody else being interested in even taking a flier is validation that he’s not good. Not that I’m a Mac guy either. Both are very underwhelming
Because people get very offended over Zappe even sharing a locker room with the immortal Jag Jones.
KrejciMVP
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I dont want to close the book on him bc of preseason. Mac Jones is 7-12 his last 19. Zappe 2-0 in games he started. Can't just not have a backup or plan if Mac implodes
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You can want and hope Zappe is the answer all you want, he’s not though. He’s not good in fact. His two wins were against the worst defenses he could have faced. Once he played more, he got exposed. I don’t think Jones is the answer either tbh, but that’s more of an indictment on the gm.
How exactly did he get exposed playing more? When Mac came back he came in after Mac puked on himself again and threw a couple TDs. He didn't play again after that Bears game I don't think. Pretty tough to conclude he got exposed on that miniscule sample as a rookie. It's not like he started 8 games or something. I'm fine with him as the backup for now though. Ready to step in when Mac wets himself.
KrejciMVP
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he's 2-0 as a rookie starter. Almost beat GB and gave them a lead in that bears game after Mac put them in a hole.
BigBadBruins7708
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If we're being fair, Zappe had 1 good game out of the 4 and the fact that no team has jumped on him on the waiver wire when guys are getting snatched up left and right is telling.
GB: 10/15, 99 yds 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 Fumble lost
DET: 17/21, 188 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 0 Fumble lost
CLE: 24/34, 309 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 Fumble lost
CHI: 14/22, 185 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT, 1 Fumble lost
All in all its 5 TD vs 6 TO
KrejciMVP
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when I see evaluation of Macs 7-12 record on last 19 games we can call it fair and what was asked of Zappe was not an easy task for any rookie
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KrejciMVP
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Ah yes...how can we forget the almighty Scott Mitchell 2: Electric Boogaloo savior that is Bailey Zappe. The glorious anointed one who should replace Mac Jones because he simply occupies the QB2 position and beat on the dregs of the league when there was no game tape on him. Praise the anointed back up because he's not Mac Jones. :^)
If Mac Jones is a JAG, then what the hell does that makes Bailey Zappe considering he couldn't do enough to save his job and had to fight off an undrafted rookie that was converting to Wide Receiver for a chance at a practice squad slot?
It's clear Bill and company have botched the transition from Brady since the get go and haven't tried to do right by anyone but Bill and his ego which has led to the team time and again face planting into the turf. This is Mac's last shot to get things right and if it doesn't, which if we're being honest is a high possibility at this point, this team needs to tear it down and start from ground zero again. Probably without Bill at the helm and a more decentralized and, dare I say, functional front office and coaching staff in tow.
BigBadBruins7708
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Why are you bringing up Jones in an evaluation of Zappe?
Ok but we can play that game. In that span Jones had: 4,161 yards, 22 TD, 20 turnovers
Zappe's 4 games extrapolated out to 19 games (matching the span for Jones) comes out to: 3,709 yards, 24 TD, 29 turnovers. So 400 fewer yards, 2 more TD but 9 more TO
To be clear, i am NOT saying Jones is good. I'm simply pointing out that Zappe was worse and people need to let it go.
KrejciMVP
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so all rookie QBs should have stats of their first few starts projected as the norm
Jimmy Garoppolo was also a 2-0 starter for the Patriots. Are we going to sit here and act like what Garoppolo and Zappe accomplished are the same? Zappe has more NFL wins than I ever will, but that doesn't mean my eyes don't work. He beat up on two of the worst teams in the NFL in the post-Patricia Lions and the basket case Browns, only to get fed his heart against the Bears while Justin Fields had a monster game and looked like the second coming of Randall Cunningham. There's levels to this league, and while he had something, Zappe clearly has lost that it factor over the summer otherwise he'd still be gainfully employed as the backup.
What else can we do but project at this point when we have nothing but forecasting data to go off of? It's a fair assessment of what Zappe's stats could look like if carried to its logical conclusion and he maintained the same level of performance.
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C'mon, man. Can't you support me on this? Mid Jones. MID.
BigBadBruins7708
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When that's all you have, yeah.
Maybe you should be petitioning all the other GMs in the league with your expert evaluation of Zappe. Clearly they dont see what you see either since he's still unemployed.
Terrier
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Turnover ratio seems similar to Mac last year though. And that was Zappe as a rookie who was not expected to play. He shouldn't be held to the same standard as Mac. Not last year anyway.
The roster is a jumbled mess. The years and years of incompetence drafting players is coming home to roost. Tom Brady hid a lot of dysfunction and mismanagement in Foxboro. Bill’s record without Brady continues to be abysmal. It’s crystal clear now who made who. If you don’t see it it’s because you don’t want to see it.
EverettMike
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I'm sorry, if you're willing to risk your backup to waivers you don't really believe in him as a viable NFL QB.
It's good he'll be around since they don't have anyone else, but clearly they have a hole to fill at QB2.
It's good he'll be around since they don't have anyone else, but clearly they have a hole to fill at QB2.
JRull86
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Aka 7 other teams wanting to sign (limited) NFL experience to the PS.
Not one of those teams thought he was worth a waiver claim over some bottom of the roster junk.
Pretty telling IMO.
imagine having spent time out of your life writing posts that said Zappe should have been the starter, only for him to not be claimed on waivers to even backup somewhere
That’s like half pats fan who are online lmao. Silliest fanbase in town.
That’s like half pats fan who are online lmao. Silliest fanbase in town.
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