Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XII

[GordonHowe]

Sean McAdam on the end of an era, and the beginning of a new one,

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[Hookslide]

How about getting basic facts straight? He played 21 RS games and had 16 points in them. That damn close to .8PPG.

With Bertuzzi, Orlov, and Hathaway they went 15-1 down the stretch. Can we can this crap about the deadline additions not adding to the record?

They did add to the record that was pretty damm good to start with , the problem is the were added for the playoffs not the regular season run..........

 

[Hookslide]

Lauko -- Zacha -- Pasta

Marchand -- Geekie -- Debrusk

Boqvist -- Coyle -- JVR

Lucic -- Frederic -- Brown

is my idea with how to do the forwards.

Not bad , have seen some pretty shitty ones on this site..........would rather someone else step up over Brown , Beecher would be sweet someone with size or maybe Richard.......

 

[HustleB]

Lauko -- Zacha -- Pasta

Marchand -- Geekie -- Debrusk

Boqvist -- Coyle -- JVR

Lucic -- Frederic -- Brown

is my idea with how to do the forwards.

This is my favorite, with the caveat, that if Merkulov forces himself into the top 9 I like it alot more. Really room for 2-3 guys to force their way in. Also I like the Richard kid we signed and would love to see him in that lineup as well.

 

[yazmybaby]

With Sweeney good fortune Geekie probably hits as a 45-60 point valuable top 9

I went back and Seattle had a good spread from Canes but wanted this guy

Because of Islanders & Columbus dumping forwards good ones to shed salary the Geekie development got messed up

I would love for Geekie to grab second line center and see the Bruins roll out
Zacha
Geekie
Coyle

And roll along

Geekie is going to have to earn his ice time.....a 9 goal scorer on the second line?
I hope he turns out to be good for us, but at this point I would have Coyle and Zacha ahead of him.
I think the lines turn out something like:

Marchand Zacha Pasty
Frederic Coyle Debrusk
Lauko Geekie JVR
Lucic Brown Greer ( Lysell and Steen pushing for this spot)
Boquist is your extra guy with Anthony Richard my darkhorse to make the team

 

[GordonHowe]

Bruins bolster center depth by signing former Harvard captain John Farinacci to entry-level contract

The Bruins added to their depth at center by signing former Harvard captain John Farinacci to an entry-level contract on Wednesday.

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[KillerMillerTime]

They did add to the record that was pretty damm good to start with , the problem is the were added for the playoffs not the regular season run..........

Except people are arguing they weren't important parts of the team responsible for help setting the record and they won't be missed and its clearly illustrated by getting basic facts wrong, like number of games played by Bertuzzi to downplay his contributions.

People did it with Hathaway, a 4th line winger who potted two game winners in the 3rd period of tie games in March.

Its appears more than a couple of people just want to ignore how much offense the team lost and what that means next year.[/QUOTE]

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Except people are arguing they weren't important parts of the team responsible for help setting the record and they won't be missed and its clearly illustrated by getting basic facts wrong, like number of games played by Bertuzzi to downplay his contributions.

People did it with Hathaway, a 4th line winger who potted two game winners in the 3rd period of tie games in March.

Its appears more than a couple of people just want to ignore how much offense the team lost and what that means next year.

Ok

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Ok

Yeah ok

 

[Hookslide]

Except people are arguing they weren't important parts of the team responsible for help setting the record and they won't be missed and its clearly illustrated by getting basic facts wrong, like number of games played by Bertuzzi to downplay his contributions.

People did it with Hathaway, a 4th line winger who potted two game winners in the 3rd period of tie games in March.

Its appears more than a couple of people just want to ignore how much offense the team lost and what that means next year.

[/QUOTE]

 

[wintersej]

I keep seeing Marchand/Coyle being listed as a "must pair." Couldn't disagree with that more. Coyle can't make a decision with the puck in the offensive zone to save his life, which is the complete opposite of what Marchand is used to playing with.

I imagine that combo as being incredibly frustrating to watch.

Agreed. You have to TRY to find a lineup that keeps Coyle on the third line.

JVR Zacha Pasta
Marchand Geekie/Merkulov DeBrusk
Frederic Coyle Lauko/Boqvist/Lysell

JVR plays poor man's Bertuzzi on that line. All the fancy stats point to JVR being unlucky last season and being a net front goal scorer on a shit team that didn't give him a chance to do his thing. We will see.

You have Geekie and Merkulov vying to try to at least not get in the way of two first line wingers. Maybe to get pumped and dumped in a trade to upgrade that spot. Hopefully they don't have to be sheltered too much, because the Zacha line needs o-zone time.

Frederic and Coyle keep getting buried and are paired with someone quick to give them some speed.

 

[Hookslide]

[/QUOTE]
What you are saying is all good no argument from me but do you think that team was on a roll and might have contributed to some of their success here as well ...........what it comes down to is that it was good for all until the playoffs and that had what we were all hoping for until game 5 and that will be questioned for years .........

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Agreed. You have to TRY to find a lineup that keeps Coyle on the third line.

JVR Zacha Pasta
Marchand Geekie/Merkulov DeBrusk
Frederic Coyle Lauko/Boqvist/Lysell

JVR plays poor man's Bertuzzi on that line. All the fancy stats point to JVR being unlucky last season and being a net front goal scorer on a shit team that didn't give him a chance to do his thing. We will see.

You have Geekie and Merkulov vying to try to at least not get in the way of two first line wingers. Maybe to get pumped and dumped in a trade to upgrade that spot. Hopefully they don't have to be sheltered too much, because the Zacha line needs o-zone time.

Frederic and Coyle keep getting buried and are paired with someone quick to give them some speed.

I see more downside than upside gifting Geekie 2C minutes to start off a transitional
forward core. Guy hasn't scored 10 goals in a season at the NHL level or broken 30 points in the NHL. Let Geekie get his feet wet with better match ups early on at 3C and adjust to Boston's system.

 

[wintersej]

I see more downside than upside gifting Geekie 2C minutes to start off a transitional
forward core. Guy hasn't scored 10 goals in a season at the NHL level or broken 30 points in the NHL. Let Geekie get his feet wet with better match ups early on at 3C and adjust to Boston's system.

Totally reasonable argument. Going to be one of the more interesting preseasons and first couple months of the season in a long time.

Edit: personally I’m not sure if playing on one of the shutdown lines with Frederic and someone new or newer to the Bruins would be easier or harder than being asked to produce some with top wingers. I’ve just seen enough of Coyle and DeBrusk to not like it.

 

[Trashpass]

Sweeney gets Hall, Nash, Ullmark, Orlov, Bertuzzi, and Lindholm and we are cowering over Matt Belesky fear lol

Worried about or even bringing up or thinking about Matt Belesky is like dwelling over a little league at bat from 1974

What people tend to forget is Matt Belesky was fine his first year and IMO earning the contract he signed. Injuries got the best of him and the rest is history.

 

[PlayMakers]

I see more downside than upside gifting Geekie 2C minutes to start off a transitional
forward core. Guy hasn't scored 10 goals in a season at the NHL level or broken 30 points in the NHL. Let Geekie get his feet wet with better match ups early on at 3C and adjust to Boston's system.

I agree. Some folks are putting way too much pressure and expectations on Geekie. 3c is the next step in his development and that's a big enough jump as is.

 

[JOKER 192]

Coyle #2C
Geekie #3C

A 9 goal 4C, being put between elite and very good winger in the top 6? That's a hard pass the first 20 games of the season. This team won't need more adjustments
than JVR in the top 6. Coyle has familiarity with #63\74, Geekie has none.

Same shit , Coyle is a 3rd liner that is a fact.

Geekie played on a team deep at the center position. That's why they let him go for nothing. He's may not be better than Coyle but let's find out.

 

[Blowfish]

Same shit , Coyle is a 3rd liner that is a fact.

Geekie played on a team deep at the center position. That's why they let him go for nothing. He's may not be better than Coyle but let's find out.

Fact?

 

[PB37]

I agree. Some folks are putting way too much pressure and expectations on Geekie. 3c is the next step in his development and that's a big enough jump as is.

I wouldn't say it's expectations, it's more spitballing ideas and making some reasonable possibilities.

- Geekie lead his WHL team in points his last two years

- Had 42 points in 55 games his last year in the AHL

- Geekie was on pace for 34 points playing 4th line minutes last season

- Playing with established scorers the level of Marchand and DeBrusk could help bring his offensive game to another level

 

[JOKER 192]

I think it is. Coyle is a functional 2C. Geekie is still an unknown as a top 6 player. Btw if you want to use projected stats like the Geekie's pts/60 that are thrown around, considser this:

Laukko had a higher pts/60 last year than Marchand or Bergeron, and Garnet Hathaway had a higher g/60 than Bergeron, Zacha, Marchand, Krejci, Coyle and Hall.

Those projected stats are tricky. Sometimes they are evidnece of an underutilized guy ready to break out, and sometimes they are just flukes of small sample sizes combined with easy usage.

Fair enough but both Lauko and Hathaway were small sample sizes whereas Geekie was almost a complete season. Still a small sample but a better sample than those other two.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Toporowski is going to make it hard on the Bruins to send him down.

 

[JOKER 192]

Fact?

You haven't seen enough?

And he won't be getting better as he ages .

 

[Blowfish]

I wouldn't say it's expectations, it's more spitballing ideas and making some reasonable possibilities.

- Geekie lead his WHL team in points his last two years

- Had 42 points in 55 games his last year in the AHL

- Geekie was on pace for 34 points playing 4th line minutes last season

- Playing with established scorers the level of Marchand and DeBrusk could help bring out his offensive game

The Kraken didn't qualify him...

You haven't seen enough?

Yeppers...

Coyle takes center stage for undermanned Bruins in Game 3 win | NHL.com

Steps up to help Boston regain lead in East 1st Round against Panthers with Bergeron, Krejci out

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Without Bergeron and Krejci, the most noticeable center on the ice was Coyle, a player who turned in a game that had his teammates reaching for their thesaurus.

"He's just a man," Foligno said. "That's a weird compliment but it is. He's a beast. He's so lanky and long but also strong. When he puts his body into a puck or into another body, you're not getting it. He really drives our team that way."

Coyle was responsible for the team's second goal, winning a net-front battle with Aleksander Barkov, standing his ground with each bump and thump, long enough that he was there to tip Brad Marchand's shot past Panthers goalie Alex Lyon at 6:00 of the second period. He had five shots on goal, the most of anyone in the game not named David Pastrnak (seven) and drew two penalties.

 

[DKH]

What people tend to forget is Matt Belesky was fine his first year and IMO earning the contract he signed. Injuries got the best of him and the rest is history.

Yup how I see it as well

 

[CDJ]

What people tend to forget is Matt Belesky was fine his first year and IMO earning the contract he signed. Injuries got the best of him and the rest is history.

Agreed, thought he had a very good start to his tenure. Those injuries accumulating is the risk you run signing players with that kind of style unfortunately