Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk VII

[EverettMike]

I know you didn't just trying to interject some humor to cool the thread down. It could use a few dunks in the tank, if you know what I mean.
How you doing after that by the way. I've never been in one, always wanted to try. Was surprised at the physical tax you said it takes.

Destroyed my feet, my knees, and my back. I'm still hurting.

Took me way too long to figure out how to fall "better," because there are no instructions. The tank itself only says "keep your hands on your lap" which does help, otherwise you throw them up like Adam McQuaid getting high-sticked. (Only in this case it's unintentional because you aren't being a drama queen like Adam.)

 

[KnightofBoston]

Is it just me or does Toronto always want the same things as the Bruins?

The hockey personified version of the annoying little brother


We could stand to be less tone deaf tho

 

[PlayMakers]

I disagree. Jacobs wants his playoff revenue, but he tanked for Thornton, and he can and is tanking now. Unfortunately, you will see. ...The situations aren't that dissimilar. Heck they were almost tanking in the Lewis year even with Chara, Bergy and Savard. In fact, that team with its .463 winning percentage seems awfully similar to this team, except for the starting goaltender. They had stars but a boatload of slow, terrible depth.

You can’t tank with the Vezina winner/best goalie tandem in hockey.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I don't even know why you think I meant you, but I did not!

Hi!

 

[Hookslide]

People here saying they had to trade Hall for cap space, only to find out they were in on Bertuzzi makes 0 sense.

Leafs are now approx 8 million over the cap. The hall trade was a complete panic move and horrible trade.

You are right on "panic move " they they held a spot for a lesser player and traded the better player for nothing ..........

 

[PlayMakers]

I know I’m probably the only one but I still believe in Ullmark and think before his career is over he has the ability to take a team on a deep playoff run. So many question marks with the Bruins up front now why not keep both goalies. If Ullmark’s game goes sideways again next April, sure move on from him .

Fwiw, I believe in Ullmark too, but trading him isn’t about not believing in him. It’s about moving enough money to afford a #1C. Ullmark is one of the few large contracts left and it’s at a position of depth with Sway and Bussi.

Does a team go further in the playoffs with Ullmark in net and Coyle as 1C, or Sway in net and Lindholm as 1c? Those two teams cost the same cap-wise.

 

[smithformeragent]

This board when Bergeron does announce his retirement:

“Listen, Donny. It’s Pat. I know you’ve been doing everything you can for the upcoming season to keep the roster competitive. And I saw you even brought back Milan. But, you know, I’ve been banged up the past few springs and I’ve got the new kid at home, and the wife wants me around more often. We’ve got shows we’re going to catch up on streaming and we may take the kids to Disney. What I’m saying is, please don’t count on me to be at Warrior in the fall. No. No. Don’t hang up. No. Don’t cry. It’s not you. It’s me. Yeah, yeah, I’ll come back one night for the Centennial. Maybe against Nashville or Columbus or something to help the old man sell a few extra beers. And maybe we can get a coffee or talk or something.”

“Yeah…. I’d like that.”

 

[Hookslide]

Fwiw, I believe in Ullmark too, but trading him isn’t about not believing in him. It’s about moving enough money to afford a #1C. Ullmark is one of the few large contracts left and it’s at a position of depth with Sway and Bussi.

Does a team go further in the playoffs with Ullmark in net and Coyle as 1C, or Sway in net and Lindholm as 1c? Those two teams cost the same cap-wise.

You are making a good point , bottom line is this goalie tandem although terrific and a luxury now it is not when you have other holes to fill , you can only play one goalie at a time..........

 

[cheg1349]

I feel attacked(Ive been accused of being a pom-pomer and have called out consistently negative posters) so I will explain my position.

Bruins is fun for me. When it is not fun I choose to not be affected by it.
It is just a sport.
I deal with a lot of terrible stuff people are going through every week so it gives me perspective. I choose not to be negative because it will become a habit and I will end up wallowing in it.

Actually, that gives me a new perspective. If you are consistently negative around here your life must be going pretty well for the Bruins to be your point of issue.

I could dump my baggage here. But I choose to turn on some light instead and make stupid jokes hoping some of you out there crack a smile and have a little better day. Does that make me a clown? To some, yes. But I would rather be a clown and make a few people smile who need it than the alternative.

Our habits make us.
If we choose to be negative often, that will form us. It will form the relationships we have around us. It will form this community.
I think thats why we have a few posters who call people out on their negativity, not just for themselves but for the health of HFBoards as well.

Its the summer after a sport defining record loss. We are not running it back, we are selling and starting a slow rebuild/retool. I dont expect people around here to be thrilled about that. But there are some things still to enjoy: Looch back home, seeing some of the kids play, just enjoying hockey for the fun it is. I am going to choose to enjoy that, so I enjoy the Bruins. So it remains a destresser for me. I have something to look forward to after spending an afternoon with a friend whose wife is leaving him and taking the kids while she has a deep drug habit and the kids do not want to go with her.
The reality of the situation is actually much much worse, but I won't go into it here. Not the place for that. I think I made my point.

I guess it's just some perspective.

I've found over the last couple years that the games don't have the same effect on me that they used to, and I'm pretty happy about that. I still get super into them as they're happening, but if a bad loss happens about 5-10 minutes later I'm like eh whatever and move on.

Same thing with the off-season, I'm intrigued by what they're going to do, and still check this site way more often than I probably should, but I'm not gonna freak out about what they do.

Not saying that other people shouldn't or are wrong to, to each their own. I'm just ok with not letting it affect me as much as it used to.

 

[Bruinsguy613]

Calgary didn’t get much for Taffolli so does it reason the Bs might be able to put a package together for Lindholm and Hanafin . Gryz Debrusk Freddy a 2025 1st get the convo started?

 

[ON3M4N]

I have no clue what they’re doing right now.

If you’re going to go for it again you should be keeping guys like Hall knowing that Bergeron and Krejci are coming back.

If you’re going to trade Hall, not bring back the centers, not re-sign Bertuzzi, you should be moving guys out and starting the rebuild.

Instead they’re keeping half of their guys, trading one of the best forwards in Hall, and signing a bunch of plugs like Geekie, JVR, and Megna.

Seems like a directionless plan with the hope to get the 8 seed.

Rebuilds sound easy in theory....but they're really not and they take a very long time to happen. Detroit & Buffalo have been rebuilding for years. Even Raycroft mentioned that Colorado was starting to rebuild when he was their in 08-09. 13-14 years later they won the cup.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Calgary didn’t get much for Taffolli so does it reason the Bs might be able to put a package together for Lindholm and Hanafin . Gryz Debrusk Freddy a 2025 1st get the convo started?

I dont see Hanafin going anytime soon. I think he has more value in his GMs eyes than the rest of the league(assumption). As for Elias, Everyone wants him. He is in his prime and a legitimate 1C, They will want a mint for him. Included in that mint is futures. Boston has 2 prospects that Calgary MIGHT want, no picks, and cant subtract from the roster as it now stands. This means Boston would have to give up our best to get their best. Even then would it be enough to outbid another team? We can float Ullmark, Gryz, Lysell, etc. but if thats not what the GM wants, then there is nothing there. I think Donny knows the price they want for Lindholm already, he has the summer to be creative in how to meet that. I think he will try, not certain it will be enough. Look what Dubois got. We cannot match that. Lindholm, IMO, is better than Dubois and I think his GM well knows that.

Rebuilds sound easy in theory....but they're really not and they take a very long time to happen. Detroit & Buffalo have been rebuilding for years. Even Raycroft mentioned that Colorado was starting to rebuild when he was their in 08-09. 13-14 years later they won the cup.

Took Boston the same amount of time after Bourque.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I dont see Hanafin going anytime soon. I think he has more value in his GMs eyes than the rest of the league(assumption). As for Elias, Everyone wants him. He is in his prime and a legitimate 1C, They will want a mint for him. Included in that mint is futures. Boston has 2 prospects that Calgary MIGHT want, no picks, and cant subtract from the roster as it now stands. This means Boston would have to give up our best to get their best. Even then would it be enough to outbid another team? We can float Ullmark, Gryz, Lysell, etc. but if thats not what the GM wants, then there is nothing there. I think Donny knows the price they want for Lindholm already, he has the summer to be creative in how to meet that. I think he will try, not certain it will be enough. Look what Dubois got. We cannot match that. Lindholm, IMO, is better than Dubois and I think his GM well knows that.


Took Boston the same amount of time after Bourque.

Bruins made the playoffs two years after trading Bourque.

 

[UncleRico]

I dont see Hanafin going anytime soon. I think he has more value in his GMs eyes than the rest of the league(assumption). As for Elias, Everyone wants him. He is in his prime and a legitimate 1C, They will want a mint for him. Included in that mint is futures. Boston has 2 prospects that Calgary MIGHT want, no picks, and cant subtract from the roster as it now stands. This means Boston would have to give up our best to get their best. Even then would it be enough to outbid another team? We can float Ullmark, Gryz, Lysell, etc. but if thats not what the GM wants, then there is nothing there. I think Donny knows the price they want for Lindholm already, he has the summer to be creative in how to meet that. I think he will try, not certain it will be enough. Look what Dubois got. We cannot match that. Lindholm, IMO, is better than Dubois and I think his GM well knows that.


Took Boston the same amount of time after Bourque.

While I agree with what you said, I bet if Calgary had a similar offer for Lindholm as Dubois got Winnipeg, then they would have already made the deal.

I think if the bruins trade Ullmark they should get a return of 1st, mid level prospect, 3rd. That’s what Darcy kuemper pulled. If you want to make a case for slightly more or less then that’s certainly within the realm of discussion.

But hypothetically say that’s the return. What do the bruins have to add to that to pull Lindholm?

Can bruins move Ullmark and gryz then flip that return for Elias Lindholm? If so they should jump on that immediately

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Bruins made the playoffs two years after trading Bourque.

...and we may make the playoffs this next season.
I was a fan in those years. The Sinden teams were built on kids not getting paid and old vets on the cheap(for the most part) as duct tape to get the team into playoff revenue. The Sinden treadmill was horrible. We were not going for a cup any year, it was all about business.

Sweeney will not do that. But it will take a year or two of the Sinden method to get Jacobs his revenue and butts in small seats to pay the bills while we can reposition the team for the next generation.

I saw a lot of vets in B's uni's that were never what they were, and the revolving door of goaltenders and kids. This roster looks familiar to me.

 

[JerseyBruin]

This board when Bergeron does announce his retirement:

In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

 

[BB88]

April is 250 days away they got time

Always a good answer.

So basically just build an even slower and older lineup and hope it works

 

[KrejciMVP]

I think the reactions and predictions would be a lot different if any of the Bruins rivals lost 4 top 6 forwards going into next year. its a major loss

 

[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

Yes

In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

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In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

This website barely works and is dense with invasive ads and prohibitively unintuitive user functions, so I'm sorry that I quoted this 3 times and also cannot remove them from my post.

Anyway, yes, they are better with Patrice Bergeron on the team.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

Pretty sure the Selke trophy winner will be missed don’t you think if he’s healthy that is.

 

[NeelyDan]

The vision seems to finally be looking beyond the immediate year ahead. That's something most people here have been asking for.

We've been spoiled lately, but the team needs a bigger retool and that seems to be what's in store next year. A bridge year is fine. Just watch the games and try to have fun and enjoy watching the game we all love, that's what this is all supposed to be about anyways... entertainment.

I don't think they will be, but If the B's are bad this year then so be it. There will be plenty of good hockey to watch around the league, like there always is

All hail this logical, articulate post

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

In all honesty, is this current team that much better/worse with Bergy ?
I understand he's a leader , great FO guy and defensive presence on the ice but having him vs not having him isn't going to move the needle that much either way. This team will win/lose with Goaltending and defense .

I think we are going to find out either way.

 

[Patdud]

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Yes

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This website barely works and is dense with invasive ads and prohibitively unintuitive user functions, so I'm sorry that I quoted this 3 times and also cannot remove them from my post.

Anyway, yes, they are better with Patrice Bergeron on the team.

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[NDiesel]

I think the reactions and predictions would be a lot different if any of the Bruins rivals lost 4 top 6 forwards going into next year. its a major loss

What exactly do you predict next year? And which predictions do you disagree with?

I see most saying we are a bubble team as is. They lost some forwards and scoring might be an issue, but they have the same D and Goalies that gave up 36 goals less than the next closest team. Obviously losing Bergy/Krejci effects that too. To go from 135 points to fighting to the playoffs is a pretty fair assessment IMO.