Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk VI

[PB37]

he followed it up with this

Not sure what high profile guys would come here for less then that

I think people are missing the key phrase " barring moving out a roster player or two ".

 

[Bs1011]

The defense played sooo well against the Panthers. Only makes sense to run it back with the exact same group…

I have a feeling Donny can’t trade Gryz his father worked for Mr. Burns for 40 years. Orders from ownership hope I’m wrong

 

[Alicat]

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Good start to FA day. Thanks Twitter

Use it in your browser. Seems to be an app issue

 

[goalieman40]

Same happened to me. Thanks for the tip!

 

[SPV]

I think it has much more to do with the terrible asset management by Sweeney than where they actually drafted. Having to give up extra capital to move backes, Moore and beleskey, missing on Rick Nash.

Of course there are draft misses like Beecher, zboril and senyshyn.

On top of that like Anthony said there were only a few other available players each draft, but those do end up adding up and the bruins seemed to miss just about every time.

They need lorhei and lysell to be solid players for sure or else it gets very ugly because then we are looking at nothing from the draft pool for a few more years.

Bottom line a big reason they have been in cap trouble is that since 2017, swayman is the only nhl regular. No matter how you slice it that’s not a good formula.

6 years worth of drafts without an NHL regular forward or defender is about as bad as it gets.

Swayman is the saving grace in this.

This is a little unfair anyway, there’s not a ton of players outside of the top of the first round that have done much in the past several years. This might have more to do with the success and the veteran rosters the Bruins have had rather than their drafting.

But I have always thought we should try some younger guys in the bottom six more often than we do, would save cap space too.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I think it has much more to do with the terrible asset management by Sweeney than where they actually drafted. Having to give up extra capital to move backes, Moore and beleskey, missing on Rick Nash.

Of course there are draft misses like Beecher, zboril and senyshyn.

On top of that like Anthony said there were only a few other available players each draft, but those do end up adding up and the bruins seemed to miss just about every time.

They need lorhei and lysell to be solid players for sure or else it gets very ugly because then we are looking at nothing from the draft pool for a few more years.

Bottom line a big reason they have been in cap trouble is that since 2017, swayman is the only nhl regular. No matter how you slice it that’s not a good formula.

6 years worth of drafts without an NHL regular forward or defender is about as bad as it gets.

Swayman is the saving grace in this.

First, this was talking about since 2018.

Second, the only way they miss every time is if you’re being willfully ignorant. Like calling Beecher a bust when he had to have his shoulder completely put back together and has only played one pro season.

Third, if you’re going to break it down like that, then add in the UDFAs they’ve signed, and add in the players they got for trading picks. Then you’d have a true picture.

But this really just comes back to you thinking they should have traded Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci, etc and tanked.

 

[PlayMakers]

he followed it up with this

Not sure what high profile guys would come here for less then that

Wheeler could do a 35+ deal.
Duchene maybe, only because he’ll be collecting millions from the Preds.

 

[quietbruinfan]

They can sign as many $1m players as they want, it just comes at the cost of not having a rookie in the lineup. So you can have Merkulov at $900k in the top6 or Wheeler at $1m + bonuses. You can have McLaughlin on the 3rd line at $900k or you can sign Comtois for $1m.

Right now, the third and fourth lines both have 2 rookies on them. I can’t see them doing that.

Marchand - Coyle - $1m
DeBrusk - Zacha . Pastrnak
$1m - Frederic - $1m
Lucic - $1m - $1m

Thats 5 spots for rookies OR bargain bin UFA’s.

OK, KPD's math, your math and mine are close. I think a little new blood is coming, and I like the idea, Merkulov and one d man. I don't think there are five bargain basement good ufas to get, You also have to teach the ufas your system etc.

 

[Kegs]

It is my own bias of course, but that smells like Carlo to me, or maybe, maybe JDB.

Why? I can’t imagine trading Carlo for draft picks. Maybe if someone offered some firsts or something. Who are the high profile UFA ? I like bertuzzi. Maybe orielly or duchene. Dumba would be nice. It’s not a super stacked ufa year is it? Seems kinda thin to me. Bertuzzi is my favourite ufa. Sadly it feels like that ship might have sailed. We will see Sweeney tends to surprise me when he does anything.

 

[PlayMakers]

It is my own bias of course, but that smells like Carlo to me, or maybe, maybe JDB.

I think it’s Frederic. Maybe Gryz if there’s a high profile D looking to come here cheap.., OEL maybe?

 

[PlayMakers]

OK, KPD's math, your math and mine are close. I think a little new blood is coming, and I like the idea, Merkulov and one d man. I don't think there are five bargain basement good ufas to get, You also have to teach the ufas your system etc.

I don’t think there are 5 either, I think they sign 2 or 3 and fill in the other 2 spots with rookies.

 

[Bs1011]

First, this was talking about since 2018.

Second, the only way they miss every time is if you’re being willfully ignorant. Like calling Beecher a bust when he had to have his shoulder completely put back together and has only played one pro season.

Third, if you’re going to break it down like that, then add in the UDFAs they’ve signed, and add in the players they got for trading picks. Then you’d have a true picture.

But this really just comes back to you thinking they should have traded Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci, etc and tanked.

Beecher couldn’t put up points on stacked college team. I get the injuries but he will never be more than a 4th line center at best.

 

[Oates2Neely]

The Bruins just cleared some more valuable cap space ahead of free agency
The Bruins just cleared some more valuable cap space ahead of free agency

 

[DominicT]

 

[quietbruinfan]

Why? I can’t imagine trading Carlo for draft picks. Maybe if someone offered some firsts or something. Who are the high profile UFA ? I like bertuzzi. Maybe orielly or duchene. Dumba would be nice. It’s not a super stacked ufa year is it? Seems kinda thin to me. Bertuzzi is my favourite ufa. Sadly it feels like that ship might have sailed. We will see Sweeney tends to surprise me when he does anything.

Kane, RoR, DUchene And maybe Andersen are the only high profile UFAS to me so maybe it will be Jake, but that leaves you much too weak on the wing. The only way they can have their cake and eat it too and not weaken themselves. is bring in a goalie on a one year with a promise to extend, but they all but promised Bussi some time. It is an odd situation,

 

[Ace0813]

With the news out of the draft that BOS requested a last-minute interview with that one center that CHI took, they obviously had something cooking that may have returned a 1st round pick. It wouldn't surprise me if they follow through on trading whatever asset that was to open up more space.

 

[bb74]

Not sure this is the thread for this but this goalie platoon situation has been nagging me and I am wondering if given what's happening in WPG if there isn't something creative to work out. Add to the Calgary situation with everyone wanting out as well maybe there is a unique window of leverage for Donny.

Hellebuyck (30 and a horse) for Ullmark (29 and a platoon). B's get extension deal for 6x4 and WPG gets a top G for at least 2 years as dust settles on their situation.

I know I'll be hated for this next one but with Helle for the next 5 and playing 60 a year, you trade Swayman to SJ for a top tier prospect and 2 2nd's to replenish the coffers and avoid his 3X3 or similar deal we cannot afford. Bussi gets the backup at league min.

Then call CGY and offer Gryz for a 3rd to clear the space and gives them some backup on LD which will be super thin if Hanifin walks.

With the re-jig of the roster I'd go after R Graves for 4x4 and offer OEL a 1M 1 year "show me" deal to round out the D. If not OEL show me we could try for Mayfield or Soucy. Trent resigns a bridge of 2.25 x 2, Bergeron on a 2.5/Bonus x1, and then fill out the depth with Bjugstad at 1.5 x1 and our youth like Lauko and a "kid line".

That fits under the cap, and as much as it would suck to trade off our G tandem, we would have a horse for 5 years and enough time to anticipate the next 1G if Bussi doesn't grow into that. If we buyout Forbort there is 2.3M cap space so a few UFA options to add a vet presence to the bottom 6.

Gotta give to get. Time for a 2 for 1 deal?

 

[quietbruinfan]

I think it’s Frederic. Maybe Gryz if there’s a high profile D looking to come here cheap.., OEL maybe?

KPD said guys Sweeney did not plan to move. That could very well be TF, Grz I think he planned to move.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Not sure this is the thread for this but this goalie platoon situation has been nagging me and I am wondering if given what's happening in WPG if there isn't something creative to work out. Add to the Calgary situation with everyone wanting out as well maybe there is a unique window of leverage for Donny.

Hellebuyck (30 and a horse) for Ullmark (29 and a platoon). B's get extension deal for 6x4 and WPG gets a top G for at least 2 years as dust settles on their situation.

I know I'll be hated for this next one but with Helle for the next 5 and playing 60 a year, you trade Swayman to SJ for a top tier prospect and 2 2nd's to replenish the coffers and avoid his 3X3 or similar deal we cannot afford. Bussi gets the backup at league min.

Then call CGY and offer Gryz for a 3rd to clear the space and gives them some backup on LD which will be super thin if Hanifin walks.

With the re-jig of the roster I'd go after R Graves for 4x4 and offer OEL a 1M 1 year "show me" deal to round out the D. If not OEL show me we could try for Mayfield or Soucy. Trent resigns a bridge of 2.25 x 2, Bergeron on a 2.5/Bonus x1, and then fill out the depth with Bjugstad at 1.5 x1 and our youth like Lauko and a "kid line".

That fits under the cap, and as much as it would suck to trade off our G tandem, we would have a horse for 5 years and enough time to anticipate the next 1G if Bussi doesn't grow into that. If we buyout Forbort there is 2.3M cap space so a few UFA options to add a vet presence to the bottom 6.

Gotta give to get. Time for a 2 for 1 deal?

Helly is looking for $9.5 on his next deal, not $6m.

Ullmark (or virtually any player) won’t waive to go to WPG.

Kinda falls apart right there.

 

[DominicT]

I think it’s Frederic. Maybe Gryz if there’s a high profile D looking to come here cheap.., OEL maybe?

I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Frederic and I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him. I think they are more than fine with holding onto him but it has to be at their price.

Gryz on the other hand, I will be surprised if he is on the roster in October. He may not move today or tomorrow, but I think he is as good as gone opening night. Just too much chatter regarding him.

 

[PB37]

I'm a Grz fan but it's a spot they need to improve on.

Consider this though: any Grz trade needs to have a followup move for a top 4 guy coming in unless they're cool with Forbort having a more extensive roll with McAvoy, which nobody wants to see.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I'm a Grz fan but it's a spot they need to improve on.

Consider this though: any Grz trade needs to have a followup move for a top 4 guy coming in unless they're cool with Forbort having a more extensive roll with McAvoy, which nobody wants to see.

I don't have as much contempt for Gryz as some here, but the saving grace if he's moved, we don't have to hear about his hair doctor and flow in his lettuce any more is worth it.

 

[Alicat]

I don't have as much contempt for Gryz as some here, but the my saving grace if he's moved, we don't have to hear about his hair doctor and flow in his lettuce any more is worth it.

I do have to give him props for being open about it.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Christian Fischer is available and a good big player

 

[BlackFrancis]

Christian Fischer is available and a good big player

"Good" is disputable.