Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk IX

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I get kind of a MoJo feeling with Boqvist. Johansson was a great fit for Coyle in ‘19, and Bowvist has that puck carrying ability that Mojo and Hall shared.

March - Bergy - DeBrusk
JVR - Zacha - Pastrnak
Boqvist - Coyle - Geekie
Lucic - Brown - Lauko

I really like the Grzelcyk/SJ/Hanifin three way deal @Mr. Make-Believe proposed too…

Hanifin - McAvoy
Lindholm - Carlo
Lohrei - Shattenkirk

Swayman - Ullmark
I’m assuming Frederic is in this somewhere to get the cap to work and will say finally a different option then people just throwing Carlo in the Hanifin trade without thinking how bad the RD becomes not to mention everyone talks about Forbort PK abilities but hardly mention Carlo seems mind blowing to me.

I guess the only downfall with this option is losing some grit that’s entering his prime but wow that’s a crazy top 4D and allows youth to grow in the bottom 5 6 position in the future..

Ahh.. just noticed Forbort missing too but maybe you have as an extra or you’ve tried trading as an option
 
And Shattenkirk should be light years ahead of Stralman. 😀
I'll throw this out there and hang-up As this team is constructed today Shattenkirk is the best PP QB on the team. Will he get a chance to play and show his skills there while being a 3rd pairing limited minutes 5v5 defender?
 
I'll throw this out there and hang-up As this team is constructed today Shattenkirk is the best PP QB on the team. Will he get a chance to play and show his skills there while being a 3rd pairing limited minutes 5v5 defender?
I would assume CM is our #1 QB on the PP this year. I see KS getting minutes on the second PP unit. Makes no sense using two RH shooting dee on the first PP unit considering Pasta will be on the first unit as well and he is a RH shot.
 
I would assume CM is our #1 QB on the PP this year. I see KS getting minutes on the second PP unit. Makes no sense using two RH shooting dee on the first PP unit considering Pasta will be on the first unit as well and he is a RH shot.
KS will most likely quarter back the 1pp this season I would be very surprised if he wasn’t used this way.
 
Me too.

But the guy is 31 and he's only played 138 NHL games. 24 points total.

But he is an American who went to BC, so I guess that stood to Sweeney.
I don't think Brown is guaranteed a roster spot. If a better 4C option emerges in camp they'll have no problem waiving him to send to the minors. Zero risk with bringing in a player like this. If he gels with the team and looks good, great, if not he can be buried with no impact to the cap.
 
I get kind of a MoJo feeling with Boqvist. Johansson was a great fit for Coyle in ‘19, and Bowvist has that puck carrying ability that Mojo and Hall shared.

March - Bergy - DeBrusk
JVR - Zacha - Pastrnak
Boqvist - Coyle - Geekie
Lucic - Brown - Lauko

I really like the Grzelcyk/SJ/Hanifin three way deal @Mr. Make-Believe proposed too…

Hanifin - McAvoy
Lindholm - Carlo
Lohrei - Shattenkirk

Swayman - Ullmark
Dont know what deal was that but i have a question about something that i have been thinking about. Do we really need hanifin(or someone like him?)
I dont think i recall any cup winner having 4 that strong defenseman. 3 usually is more than enough if the other 3 are competent players, heck i would say some cup winners didnt have 6 competent defenseman.
I guess all depends on what people think of Carlo but if we dont see him as a top 3 defeseman on this team shouldnt we be trading him instead, get someone like hanifin and allocate that cap space elsewhere?
 
I don't think Brown is guaranteed a roster spot. If a better 4C option emerges in camp they'll have no problem waiving him to send to the minors. Zero risk with bringing in a player like this. If he gels with the team and looks good, great, if not he can be buried with no impact to the cap.

Agree.

But it seems like a number of people are penciling him in at the 4th line spot.

Dont know what deal was that but i have a question about something that i have been thinking about. Do we really need hanifin(or someone like him?)
I dont think i recall any cup winner having 4 that strong defenseman. 3 usually is more than enough if the other 3 are competent players, heck i would say some cup winners didnt have 6 competent defenseman.
I guess all depends on what people think of Carlo but if we dont see him as a top 3 defeseman on this team shouldnt we be trading him instead, get someone like hanifin and allocate that cap space elsewhere?

More than one way to win a Cup.
 
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Dont know what deal was that but i have a question about something that i have been thinking about. Do we really need hanifin(or someone like him?)
I dont think i recall any cup winner having 4 that strong defenseman. 3 usually is more than enough if the other 3 are competent players, heck i would say some cup winners didnt have 6 competent defenseman.
I guess all depends on what people think of Carlo but if we dont see him as a top 3 defeseman on this team shouldnt we be trading him instead, get someone like hanifin and allocate that cap space elsewhere?
What happens to Lohrei if Sweeney were to acquire Hanifin? 3rd pair in 2024-25?

Lindholm • McAvoy
Lohrei • Carlo

That’s a fine looking top 4 in the 2024-25 season. I say allocate those Hanifin dollars towards a top 6 center
 
I'm actually astonished that Sweeney still will have a playoff team here most likely, AND THEN still be cap flexible next offseason.

Don't know how they did it, but they did it. Could still contend too if 37 or 46 or both come back.

Optimism is fun and the team likely is a playoff team. However the roster also potentially features JVR on the 2nd line.

So much depends upon Bergeron, the system, and goaltending to cover the roster issues.
 
Why are some surprised at how this offseason is going?

Did we all not just spend an entire season commenting about how they're going all in to try to get 1 last Cup and will have consequences going forward? At least 1 "slide backwards" year was the plan all along.
This off season and the all in have little in common. All-in was draft picks. So I guess you could argue they lost those picks as trade capital.
But the cap issue was there over a year ago. Had nothing to do with the season.
Sweeney at the time of DK and PB signing in Aug 2022 :
""Knowing some of the cap challenges and some of the things we would be facing, both players were really good and honest about you're going to try and improve the team, we want to be part of it, and then almost working backwards from there," Sweeney said Wednesday. "That's why the contractual stuff took an awful lot of time. Just sort of figure out what we were going to be capable of doing and fit them together."
From that time of them signing to the trade deadline, Sweeney did an awesome job. But that just suppressed the issue that has been there for a while.
My thoughts on this offseason was how much of it were they going to blow up. I wanted to see more but I can see the points of where they are at. Time will tell.
 
Boqvist Zacha Pasta
Marchand Coyle Debrusk
Frederic Geekie Lauko
Lucic Beecher JVR
Steen Brown

Grz McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo
Forbort Shattenkirk
Zboril Mitchell

Ullmark
Swayman
 
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Dont know what deal was that but i have a question about something that i have been thinking about. Do we really need hanifin(or someone like him?)
I dont think i recall any cup winner having 4 that strong defenseman. 3 usually is more than enough if the other 3 are competent players, heck i would say some cup winners didnt have 6 competent defenseman.
I guess all depends on what people think of Carlo but if we dont see him as a top 3 defeseman on this team shouldnt we be trading him instead, get someone like hanifin and allocate that cap space elsewhere?
Yeah, giving Monty too many toys to play with can be detrimental to a teams Stanley Cup aspirations. He seems to thrive on the opposite.
 
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No clue.

With a full 23-man roster, this signing leaves the Bruins with $5,416,666 in cap space to sign Jeremy Swayman and Trent Frederic, who have filed for arbitration. And if Patrice Bergeron comes back? Well, they would need to send a body to Providence to open up a roster spot and that would free up space to give Bergeron an incentive filled contract.

I know how they can get Bergeron under the cap if he comes back, but no clue how they get Swayman and Frederic under $5.4 million

What do you think their arbitration awards would be?
 
Meh I'm not as high on Scheifele as others, but I also prefer my #1C to be a two-way center that can play all situations.
I think this mentality may need to change, or at the very least adapt.

We've been blessed with Bergeron, but for a chunk of his time he was being used as a 1B or even 2C (semantics), but Savard then Krejci was the offensive power for a while. Obviously the recent years placed Bergeron as the defacto #1, but Bruins success has always been a 1-2 punch.Bergeron has always been the Selke presence, but line 1-2 has almost been interchangeable, depending on the wing strength (which previously was our White Whale, and potentially an issue again, back down to 3 top 6 wingers, depending on if Zacha is at C or not).

Bergeron even if he comes back isn't the long term solution, and I think if we can get a top line center in his prime, we may need to adjust to skillsets and strengths.

We get Scheifele, play on his strengths, trying to just find the perfect two-way Bergeron-esque or even Bergeron-lite may not be an option until that player walks in the door.

Scheifele isn't the only option, but we likely aren't getting the perfect candidate.

Lindholm is great, much better fitting to that prototype, but I think Scheifele has better offense.

After that, I haven't heard any one else on the block, but there's gotta be someone else out there.

I'd personally love to grab Hertl somehow, I just don't see how.

See who we can get and build around that. Just like we are at the crossroads, a Bergeron/Krejci 1/2 isn't the only type of roster build we can go with.
 
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He's not an upgrade on Clifton at this point, but he's way cheaper and easily disposed of if necessary.
Not so sure about that
Clifton has been playing for a very good defensive team over the last few years and Shattankirk has been playing for a team with no team defense.
 
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