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Seb

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Dvorsky is Danault. I don't want Danault at #5, or #6 or #7.
Dvorsky has much more offensive upside than Danault. His shot alone makes him jealous.

On the flip side, while Dvorsky is a very responsible player, I don't think he'll ever be as dominant defensively as Danault. And it's fine.

I don't think you can really compare both and saying they're equal is simply not true and an insult to Dvorsky's potential.
 
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Skip Bayless

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Dvorsky has much more offensive upside than Danault. His shot alone makes him jealous.

On the flip side, while Dvorsky is a very responsible player, I don't think he'll ever be as dominant defensively as Danault. And it's fine.

I don't think you can really compare both and saying they're equal is simply not true and an insult to Dvorsky's potential.
Danault is a pretty solid player in my book. I wasn't being derogatory towards Dvorsky's potential.

I just don't see any elite upside in his game, and that's fine. I think we can do better at #5.
 
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Schooner Guy

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I just don't see any elite upside in his game, and that's fine. I think we can do better at #5.
Dvorsky's 3rd in scoring in the WU18 with 8 points and has 5 goals despite no supporting cast and a tough schedule. Imagine if he was centering Perrault and Leonard and had USA's schedule (FAR weaker division). He'd have 18 points.

He lit up the Hlinka-Gretzky tourney two years ago a month after he turned 16.
 

jiboy

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Does Reinbacher have some standout skills ? Reading about him he seems to be a solid prospect but a little bit vanilla

Would Hanifin be a good comp ?
 

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Just finished drafting using Draft Prospects Hockey’s NHL Draft Sim.

Montreal Canadiens
(1) Connor Bedard, C
(17) Dalibor Dvorsky, C
(37) Tom Willander, RD
(69) Carey Terrance, C
(101) Paul Fischer, LD
(110) Aiden Fink, LW
(127) Michael DeAngelo, LW
(133) Jan Sprynar, RW
(144) Thomas Milic, G
(165) Matteo Koci, LD
(197) James Petrovski, LD
 

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Until May 8th, it's more or less useless to debate our top pick. There will be plenty of time to do that.

What we should focus on is what's the homerun pick at 17....

Sell me...

PS: theres already a thread for the trade for Dubois reply...
 

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At this point, if the Habs are picking 5-6-7, I could get behind pretty much everyone in the top 10ish. From Reinbacher to Yager.

There’s some really interesting players for about the next 10 picks after the big 5 (Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith, Michkov) are off the board
 

ginomini

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I’d say so, though I do think he kind of skates like ROR which isn’t a good thing lol

I’ve said it before, but Dvorskys a great athlete who just needs a skating coach. If he can elevate his skating ability he can be special.
I'm pretty sure he must have had a (or many) skating coaches during the last 5 years. And pretty sure he spent countless hours during the offseason training his skating.

He for sure can elevate his skating by becoming more strong physically. But, as others have said, this idea that elite young players "need a skating coach" is very flawed because most have had the best skating coaches available already.
 
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le_sean

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Until May 8th, it's more or less useless to debate our top pick. There will be plenty of time to do that.

What we should focus on is what's the homerun pick at 17....

Sell me...

PS: theres already a thread for the trade for Dubois reply...
Homerun at 17? Gabe Perreault, Samuel Honzek, Matthew Wood, Quentin Musty. These are guys that could really explode with more development.
 

WeThreeKings

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ROR is a fair comp for Dvorsky but ROR has a really good defensive stick, for steals and his hands are really soft.

Sometimes I think Jeff Carter but Carters defense was bad and he could wheel more than Dvorsky.

He might actually compare to PLD the closest but not as physical.
 

dackelljuneaubulis02

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Does Reinbacher have some standout skills ? Reading about him he seems to be a solid prospect but a little bit vanilla

Would Hanifin be a good comp ?
from the little I've seen he's very good defensively. I don't know if he's quite Guhle level D but close. Guhle has more reach. Kind of like more O but less D than Guhle? Not by much in either area.

He's not super flashy but he's a solid passer. Saw some great stretch passes. Has a great shot. Carries the puck very well. Not elite hands imo but solid ones. He doesn't possess jaw dropping skill but there's 40+ point potential there imo while being big, aggressive and very solid defensively.

I think his offence is highly translatable though. I'm going back and forth on who I want but would not be mad at all with him.

High floor/High ceiling RHD. He's a safe pick but also one that could give us a Cup contending Blue line in a couple years.
 
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DramaticGloveSave

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I'm pretty sure he must have had a (or many) skating coaches during the last 5 years. And pretty sure he spent countless hours during the offseason training his skating.

He for sure can elevate his skating by becoming more strong physically. But, as others have said, this idea that elite young players "need a skating coach" is very flawed because most have had the best skating coaches available already.
I get the point, and perhaps he has, but his stride is inconsistent and flawed currently. There is major room for improvement.
 
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Until May 8th, it's more or less useless to debate our top pick. There will be plenty of time to do that.

What we should focus on is what's the homerun pick at 17....

Sell me...

PS: theres already a thread for the trade for Dubois reply...
Perrault, Otto Stenberg and Colby Barlow would be my targets. Cristall would be an upside pick. Haltunnen too.
 
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atrud66

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Tough to evaluate but how do people rate the character/compete/clutch nature of the top eligible draft picks? I want an elite offensive player just as much as everyone else but I don't want a characterless loser like Matthews
 
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Tough to evaluate but how do people rate the character/compete/clutch nature of the top eligible draft picks? I want an elite offensive player just as much as everyone else but I don't want a characterless loser like Matthews
Very highly, you dont only draft hockey players, you draft potential future leaders of your team. Work rate, compete level matters alot for me.
 

atrud66

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Very highly, you dont only draft hockey players, you draft future potential leaders of your team. Work rate, compete matters alot for me.
For sure, I meant how do you compare the character/compete/clutch nature of the top draft eligible players in this draft (specifically in the 5-7 range where the Habs are likely to draft)? Smith vs. Benson vs. Reinbacher vs. Dvorsky etc.
 

26Mats

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Very highly, you dont only draft hockey players, you draft potential future leaders of your team. Work rate, compete level matters alot for me.
Hughes was just interviewed by tsn from the u18s. He reiterated that this year again they will emphasize character and ability to thrive inthe tough Montreal market.
 
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DramaticGloveSave

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For sure, I meant how do you compare the character/compete/clutch nature of the top draft eligible players in this draft (specifically in the 5-7 range where the Habs are likely to draft)? Smith vs. Benson vs. Reinbacher vs. Dvorsky etc.
I think what Dvorsky did today bodes very well for him in that regard. In a must win game, he put his team on his back and willed them to victory.
 
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