2023 NHL Entry Draft

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McKeen have Reinbacher at #26 as of 13 hrs ago. He is their 5th best dman in the draft.


That feels quite low, and I'm not a member of the Reinbacher fan club. I can see arguments for Simashev (my favorite), Gulyayev and even Sandin-Pelikka, but Dragecevic? Really?

Edit: On closer inspection, this list is a little on the older side when looking at the production #s.
 
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That feels quite low, and I'm not a member of the Reinbacher fan club. I can see arguments for Simashev (my favorite), Gulyayev and even Sandin-Pelikka, but Dragecevic? Really?

Edit: On closer inspection, this list is a little on the older side when looking at the production #s.
I understand Simashev since he’s by all accounts a complete defenceman. But Reinbacher has more tools than all of the others. And it also can’t be based on production either since he produced a rate similar to Josi in his draft year.
 
Our 2nd rounder is guaranteed at 37th overall which is pretty nice.

I have a feeling we're going to go a little unexpected and grab one of the forwards out of Sweden. Rumors were the Habs really liked a couple of the Swedes that went in the 1st round last year but didn't trade up.

Could see them liking Dower Nilsson or Stenberg
 
I think Cristall will be available with our Florida 1st rounder. Will most likely slide because he is small and an average skater also does not particularly compete hard but he could transform a teams power play with his iq and poise with the puck. I would be ecstatic if he slides to that pick.
 
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I understand Simashev since he’s by all accounts a complete defenceman. But Reinbacher has more tools than all of the others. And it also can’t be based on production either since he produced a rate similar to Josi in his draft year.

We'll see if they've made changes since that last update. I think Gulyayev has some intriguing ability, but yeah, Simashev intrigues me so much. Can't recall the last time I've seen a defender being 6'4'' and so damn smooth with the puck, while also being so damn great at gap control and standing opponents up at the blueline. When I watched him play Sochi, Michkov couldn't do anything against Simashev.

Not a need on the Habs with Matheson and Guhle here ATM, plus the Russian factor has to be accounted for, yet I can't help but support the idea of selecting him with the Florida pick if available.
 
Our 2nd rounder is guaranteed at 37th overall which is pretty nice.

I have a feeling we're going to go a little unexpected and grab one of the forwards out of Sweden. Rumors were the Habs really liked a couple of the Swedes that went in the 1st round last year but didn't trade up.

Could see them liking Dower Nilsson or Stenberg
NDN, OFS, FUS and Nilsson should all be targets. Love the J20 crop this year.

I think Unger-Sorum is my favorite of the bunch.
 
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We'll see if they've made changes since that last update. I think Gulyayev has some intriguing ability, but yeah, Simashev intrigues me so much. Can't recall the last time I've seen a defender being 6'4'' and so damn smooth with the puck, while also being so damn great at gap control and standing opponents up at the blueline. When I watched him play Sochi, Michkov couldn't do anything against Simashev.

Not a need on the Habs with Matheson and Guhle here ATM, plus the Russian factor has to be accounted for, yet I can't help but support the idea of selecting him with the Florida pick if available.
Simashev seems like a pretty direct comparable to Zadorov. He had similar smooth hands in his draft year and he had the same problem, pedestrian production. Zadorov was a maniac though and would play super physical, as we know he does.

Its nice to think about Simashevs ceiling and talent but the reality is that theory is disproved by his production and the eye-test. You watch him and you see the physical tools and then you wonder why he doesn't have more points, but when you really watch him you realize he never really actually plays like a producer.
 
NDN, OFS, FUS and Nilsson should all be targets. Love the J20 crop this year.

I think Unger-Sorum is my favorite of the bunch.

I see Stenberg as a real viable target at 37th, plays a very pro game despite being 5'11. Couple bone headed plays on offense but good speed, energy and backchecking
 
I think Cristall will be available with our Florida 1st rounder. Will most likely slide because he is small and an average skater also does not particularly compete hard but he could transform a teams power play with his iq and poise with the puck. I would be ecstatic if he slides to that pick.

Reinbacher + Cristall is a nice idea

I think our cup run taught us that size on offense isn't nearly as important as size on defense (as long as you have the best goalie of our generation)
 
I am having a problem figuring out what is wrong with one of these potential draftees. I get the love for the top 4. I get the love for Reinbacher Then there are a bunch of players that I can't separate because they play on powerhouse teams. It is difficult to know where one skill set starts and the other ones end. To me the hardest thing to do in hockey is score goals. I see that there is a player that scores goals on a very average team with very average support. This guy plays against the top defensive pairing every night. He plays against the top line or top defensive line every night. Yet he still scores goals. So what's the down side? He must be another small forward. No. Ok then he must be a poor skater .No. Ok then he must not go to the tough areas. No. Then he must not have much of a shot .No he was voted the best shot in the OHL. Do the Habs not need someone besides Caufield to score goals. I am asking in all sincerity why Barlow is not getting any love?
Barlow is a very safe prospect, will score you 25-30 goals a year so the floor is very high, already plays the game like a pro. The question as far as Im concerned is the upside, while the shot and scoring skills are there, the rest of his tools are decent, but not great, his feet are a bit heavy for his size and while he is very effective along the boards, in his puck battles ect, he still isnt a force like Brady tkachuk or other notable power fowards. I would totally welcome him with the Florida pick, but its unlikely he is there at 18 and I think its too early with the Habs pick. If we end up with the 6-7 pick and my favorites are gone, I would rather pick Leonard over him who has a more diversified toolbox and probably a higher upside.
 
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Barlow is a very safe prospect, will score you 25-30 goals a year so the floor is very high, already plays the game like a pro. The question as far as Im concerned is the upside, while the shot and scoring skills are there, the rest of his tools are decent, but not great, his feet are a bit heavy for his size and while he is very effective along the boards, in his puck battles ect, he still isnt a force like Brady tkachuk or other notable power fowards. I would totally welcome him with the Florida pick, but it’s unlikely he is there at 18 and I think it’s too early with the Habs pick. If we end up with the 6-7 pick and my favorites are gone, I would rather pick Leonard over him who has a more diversified toolbox and probably a higher upside.
Edit: just saw your top 10 ranking that you posted elsewhere earlier this week:

Smith isnt a top 10 pick for me, still less a lock at 5th OV.

1-Bedard
2-Michkov
3-Carlson
4-Fantilli
5-Reinbacher
6-Dvorsky
7-Benson
8-Leonard
9-Moore
10-Danielson/Brindley
 
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Edit: just saw your top 10 ranking that you posted elsewhere earlier this week:

Smith isnt a top 10 pick for me, still less a lock at 5th OV.

1-Bedard
2-Michkov
3-Carlson
4-Fantilli
5-Reinbacher
6-Dvorsky
7-Benson
8-Leonard
9-Moore
10-Danielson/Brindley
Did I miss something?
 
I already placed mines on Reinbacher or Dvorsky + Edmonton or Boston to win cup. I think the odds are worth it at this point. You can back up on Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson to recover your money.
Can't say I'd be stoked with either option if I'm honest. Don't see that star power in such a good draft compared to last year. Of course, I also get the concerns with Smith and Benson too, but their upside is higher in my opinion. I would entertain trading down.
 
Can't say I'd be stoked with either option if I'm honest. Don't see that star power in such a good draft compared to last year. Of course, I also get the concerns with Smith and Benson too, but their upside is higher in my opinion. I would entertain trading down.
Their upside isn't really higher, it's just fabricated. They all have top line/top pair upside.
 
Can't say I'd be stoked with either option if I'm honest. Don't see that star power in such a good draft compared to last year. Of course, I also get the concerns with Smith and Benson too, but their upside is higher in my opinion. I would entertain trading down.
I think Reinbacher's potential is huge and has alot of upside to impact the game in all facets of the game.
 
There is no risk with Michkov other than the lack of developmental control.

This all begs the question. If Russia is so anti-NHL and dangerous, why are all those Soviet defectors choosing Russia over the US/Canada? Sergei Fedorov, Alexander Mogilny, Slava Fetisov, Igor Larionov, etc. know tyranny in the truest sense of the meaning. They fought for player rights and democracy to get to the NHL, yet they'd rather be in Russia as part of the KHL even during times of war.
Perhaps Russia isn't quite as bad as our propaganda portrays it as, nor is the risk of drafting Russian players as substantial as our propaganda portrays it as.
I think the biggest downside drafting Michkov is that IIRC you almost certainly won't see him before 2026, because that's his contract status regardless of any conflict. 3 years, that's a long wait. Ideally he'd come over in 2024 and be NHL ready, if not right away.

The second biggest thing is if things escalate further, it could take even longer. Maybe you'd never see him in the worst case scenario. But as of now that seems very unlikely.
 
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So we have like a 17 percent or so chance at top 2, plus a 25 percent chance of 5th. With the somewhat decent odds Michkov makes it to 5 it's looking like pretty nice odds on us being able to get one of the big 4. If they pass on Michkov I would be heart broken.
 
Our 2nd rounder is guaranteed at 37th overall which is pretty nice.

I have a feeling we're going to go a little unexpected and grab one of the forwards out of Sweden. Rumors were the Habs really liked a couple of the Swedes that went in the 1st round last year but didn't trade up.

Could see them liking Dower Nilsson or Stenberg
Sometimes the best pick is just under our nose....Étienne Morin...though I think he will be picked before our second round pick...pick #37.
 
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