2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Mrb1p]

I might. He has better hands, and a better shot. I have to think Lardis will be a major riser on the next set of lists. I can't see him not going in 1st round with his skating, hands and production. His compete level is solid too. He's not overly physical, but he gets in there. Doesn't shy away from contact.

Definitely needs to get stronger. He can get pushed off the puck pretty easily sometimes in board battles, but the effort is there.

The Hamilton-Barrie series has been really intense so far. I'm watching it because I wanted to see Lardis. He hasn't disappointed.

Beau Akey has been pretty good for Barrie too.

I find the majority of players in this 1st round either have suspect skating, suspect compete levels, or both, or are super small. Lardis stands as one of the few that doesn't fall into any of those categories, as does Moore, who I've liked all season.

Akeys pretty good too, the OHL crop is somewhat underrated?

On Lardis, Id say he is pretty small, he seems like hes 140lbs at best. When he picks up a few pounds hes bound to be fine on the board.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Akeys pretty good too, the OHL crop is somewhat underrated?

On Lardis, Id say he is pretty small, he seems like hes 140lbs at best. When he picks up a few pounds hes bound to be fine on the board.

Oh yeah, he needs to add weight for sure.

I think OHL crop is under-rated, especially in relation to WHL, which I'm starting to think is over rated.

I'd take Akey over Dragicevic yet Dragicevic is constantly ranked late 1st/early 2nd. Akey mid to late 2nd.

WHL crop doesn't have the skating. OHL guys do. It's weird, but true. The only real quality WHL skater outside of Bedard is Heidt.

I think we're going to see some wild swings by the final draft rankings.

 

[Jack Skellington]

What the f*** even is this guy

 

[RationalExpectations]

Rest is history

Could not agree more. In the next 3 years the Habs will be at best a bubble team, getting Michkov when your window opens is not too bad.

 

[RationalExpectations]

At 5, Reinbacher definitely my pick

 

[Jack Skellington]

If Reinbacher is actually as good as Jiricek I definitely want him from 5-10 but damn Michkov at 5 seems like a real possibility. Our pool is so deep but I don't personally see the quality. IMO I would do whatever it takes to trade up the Florida pick.

 

[waitin425]

Please! Oh, pretty PLEASE!

 

[RationalExpectations]

If Reinbacher is actually as good as Jiricek I definitely want him from 5-10 but damn Michkov at 5 seems like a real possibility. Our pool is so deep but I don't personally see the quality. IMO I would do whatever it takes to trade up the Florida pick.

I don t think he is as good as Jiricek yet but I see better defensive instincts. In the same draft I think Jiricek goes before Reinbacher but just an opinion. For me Jiricek was top 3 last draft. Reinbacher is 5 at this draft and I don t think Jiricek would have been higher.

 

[KevSkillz4]

At 5, Reinbacher definitely my pick

So you are fine to pick Reinbacher over Benson or Smith?

 

[RationalExpectations]

So you are fine to pick Reinbacher over Benson or Smith?

Yes. Winning teams are built from the backend. Guhle (if healthy) + Reinbacher could be a great first pair. Benson and Smith are good but I don t see them as cornerstone players to a winning team. The only wingers I d take before a potential 2D are superstars, i.e. michkov, Ovechkin…

 

[Wats]

So you are fine to pick Reinbacher over Benson or Smith?

Not sure I would be but if the FLA 1st gets us Dubois I'd be okay. It would make sense team building wise.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I like Nick Lardis a lot but if we are talking about late risers, Gracyn Sawchyn is the kid.

He's also been buried on a very good Seattle team.. but his hands, timing, skill, he's got it all.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Not sure I would be but if the FLA 1st gets us Dubois I'd be okay. It would make sense team building wise.

Yeah me too I will be ok if after taking Reinbacher they trade 1st pick FLA + for Dubois. That would be a very good draft day acquiring a forward like Dubois and a RD like Reinbacher.

 

[River Meadow]

Yeah me too I will be ok if after taking Reinbacher they trade 1st pick FLA + for Dubois. That would be a very good draft day acquiring a forward like Dubois and a RD like Reinbacher.

I don't think so.

It's short sighted.

We aren't in WIN-NOW mode by any means.

PLD is young yes but he will still be 25 next season. Is he even THAT good? Does he have a ton of character and have what we need to win in the PLAYOFFS?

Getting PLD shifts us into WIN SOON mode, instead of the concrete rebuilding we are doing now.

There will be a ton of great talent available with FLA pick, and that talent will be very inexpensive to us for the next several years..... don't forget about that as well.

 

[Jack Skellington]

I don t think he is as good as Jiricek yet but I see better defensive instincts. In the same draft I think Jiricek goes before Reinbacher but just an opinion. For me Jiricek was top 3 last draft. Reinbacher is 5 at this draft and I don t think Jiricek would have been higher.

I had Jiricek at 1 last year but to be honest I would've been too scared too take him there with the injury he had and the chunk of the season he missed.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I had Jiricek at 1 last year but to be honest I would've been too scared too take him there with the injury he had and the chunk of the season he missed.

Same for me ahah I had Nemec and Jiricek 1 & 2 but said I likely would not have the guts to pass over Wright as a GM

 

[TomKosto]

Yes. Winning teams are built from the backend. Guhle (if healthy) + Reinbacher could be a great first pair. Benson and Smith are good but I don t see them as cornerstone players to a winning team. The only wingers I d take before a potential 2D are superstars, i.e. michkov, Ovechkin…

There's one superstar like Ovy every 20 years... You don't take a winger like Panarin or Marner over a Brett Pesce?

 

[RationalExpectations]

There's one superstar like Ovy every 20 years... You don't take a winger like Panarin or Marner over a Brett Pesce?

At draft time Panarin was undrafted, Pesce was not seen as top 4 potential so Marner would of course be taken ahead of Pesce. Right now Pesce for me is a top 4D but is missing a lot of offense to be considered a cornerstone top pair D.
But if you ask yes I take Makar and Heiskanen over Nolan Patrick

 

[jaffy27]

Yeah me too I will be ok if after taking Reinbacher they trade 1st pick FLA + for Dubois. That would be a very good draft day acquiring a forward like Dubois and a RD like Reinbacher.

I’d rather draft Smith at 5, trade our Florida pick, a 3rd rounder and a B prospect (Kidney/Kapanen type) to move up a couple of spots to acquire Reinbacher and then trade a package based around our 2024 1st rounder (lottery protected) to acquire Dubois.

 

[KevSkillz4]

I’d rather draft Smith at 5, trade our Florida pick, a 3rd rounder and a B prospect (Kidney/Kapanen type) to move up a couple of spots to acquire Reinbacher and then trade a package based around our 2024 1st rounder (lottery protected) to acquire Dubois.

Every scenario who can acquire Dubois right now, will be huge for the future of this team. Again, Dubois isn't Bedard, but Dubois is a really good player. Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Dubois and Slafkovsky. Potentially to become a really fun top 6 for many years to come. If Habs can draft Smith or Benson aswell, that will be set that. After that top 6, Habs have already great prospects to be really good on bottom 6 like Beck, Heineman, Farrell, Mesar, Roy, Rohrer, Kapanen, Kidney and more.

If Habs can move up and draft Reinbacher, the defensive group will be set aswell for many years to come.

After that... only G need to be fix. (Dobes looks very promising).

 

[TomKosto]

At draft time Panarin was undrafted, Pesce was not seen as top 4 potential so Marner would of course be taken ahead of Pesce. Right now Pesce for me is a top 4D but is missing a lot of offense to be considered a cornerstone top pair D.
But if you ask yes I take Makar and Heiskanen over Nolan Patrick

I'm not asking you do you take Panarin as a prospect vs Pesce as a prospect. I'm asking you do you take a real good winger (Panarin or Marner) or an all around 2nd D like Pesce (what you said). You only said you take a generational player like Ovy instead of a 2nd D, which make no sense at all. Than you replied that you take Makar over a center lmfao (we don't debate this), nice little argument right there.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I'm not asking you do you take Panarin as a prospect vs Pesce as a prospect. I'm asking you do you take a real good winger (Panarin or Marner) or an all around 2nd D like Pesce (what you said). You only said you take a generational player like Ovy instead of a 2nd D, which make no sense at all. Than you replied that you take Makar over a center lmfao (we don't debate this), nice little argument right there.

I say you compare what is not comparable, Jiricek has top 2 potential so I say I d take him over a top 6 potential winger then you ask if I d take a top 3 winger over a top 4 Dman. Of course I would hence my comment about Makar.

I d take a Hedman over Rantanen every day of the week if that is your question.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Dubois - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Benson

this would be a great top 6 and not small

if we dont use FLA 1st for Dubois i would try to move up to draft Reinbacher

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron

 

[Vachon23]

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/04/05/dans-la-mire-du-ch--il-me-fait-vraiment-penser-a-nathan-mackinnon

 

[TomKosto]

I say you compare what is not comparable, Jiricek has top 2 potential so I say I d take him over a top 6 potential winger then you ask if I d take a top 3 winger over a top 4 Dman. Of course I would hence my comment about Makar.

I d take a Hedman over Rantanen every day of the week if that is your question.

You previously said : " The ONLY winger I take before a 2D is a Superstar like Ovy", non-sense. Now you say you take a 1stud Defenseman over a starwinger, make sense. I totally agree with your second statement bro, just not the first one!