2023 NHL Entry Draft

[BeliveauFan4ever]

Of course there's a possibility, there's always a possibility, I just would rather go high risk and end up with a top line forward than a 2nd pairing dman. He has a lot of room to grow and could bust just as likely as a guy like Sandin Pellikka, Gulyayev, Dragicevic, Allen, Bonk. I see them all in the same grouping, imo, and I do like Reinbacher just not @ 8. I see a lot more top line potential from the forward group with Sale, Dvorsky, Benson then I do a #1 dman from that group. I could be totally wrong, but it's just where my brain is at. I think Reinbacher has a bit of luster to him, but the few times I watched him play I don't see a high IQ dman in his own end.

Don’t think any of the remaining forwards after Pick 6 are top-line calibre; top-6.

That’s where there’s a slope.

 

[rahad]

Michkov @ 3. Makes me think he goes top 4 if Grant has him that high. But is also a great forward, would love him @ our 2nd round pick though.

Impossible to draft Michkov with Florida first round pick. No way a team like Washington pass over Michkov. Ovechkin would have no problem bringing him to the NHL.

 

[Mrb1p]

Don’t think any of the remaining forwards after Pick 6 are top-line calibre; top-6.

That’s where there’s a slope.

Cristall, Benson, Smith, Honzek, Wood, Heidt, Dvorsky, Yager, Sale, Danielson, Perrault, Perron and a few others all have top line potential, especially the first 9 ones.

Of course there's a possibility, there's always a possibility, I just would rather go high risk and end up with a top line forward than a 2nd pairing dman. He has a lot of room to grow and could bust just as likely as a guy like Sandin Pellikka, Gulyayev, Dragicevic, Allen, Bonk. I see them all in the same grouping, imo, and I do like Reinbacher just not @ 8. I see a lot more top line potential from the forward group with Sale, Dvorsky, Benson then I do a #1 dman from that group. I could be totally wrong, but it's just where my brain is at. I think Reinbacher has a bit of luster to him, but the few times I watched him play I don't see a high IQ dman in his own end.

Reinbacher has as good a shot at being a top pair D as... Anyone in the past three ? drafts. As a prospect, he's very close to Jiricek and Nemec.

 

[Nedved]

Don’t think any of the remaining forwards after Pick 6 are top-line calibre; top-6.

That’s where there’s a slope.

that's fair, that's why we have opinions about draft prospects.

Cristall, Benson, Smith, Honzek, Wood, Heidt, Dvorsky, Yager, Sale, Danielson, Perrault, Perron and a few others all have top line potential, especially the first 9 ones.


Reinbacher has as good a shot at being a top pair D as... Anyone in the past three ? drafts. As a prospect, he's very close to Jiricek and Nemec.

I hope you're right about Reinbacher. I see him closer to Guhle coming into the draft, but we hit with Guhle if he stays healthy.

Impossible to draft Michkov with Florida first round pick. No way a team like Washington pass over Michkov. Ovechkin would have no problem bringing him to the NHL.

I'm taking about But, another russian.

 

[Mrb1p]

that's fair, that's why we have opinions about draft prospects.



I hope you're right about Reinbacher. I see him closer to Guhle coming into the draft, but we hit with Guhle if he stays healthy.



I'm taking about But, another russian.

I love Guhle and I do think he has that 1D top 15 potential, and I think he definitely showed that this year, but Reinbacher is ahead at the same age.

Having two guys that can hit there ? We're talking the second coming of Subban Markov here, we know how much that can carry a team. Plus we won't have Desharnais at 1C.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I love Guhle and I do think he has that 1D top 15 potential, and I think he definitely showed that this year, but Reinbacher is ahead at the same age.

Having two guys that can hit there ? We're talking the second coming of Subban Markov here, we know how much that can carry a team. Plus we won't have Desharnais at 1C.

Fully agreed if Guhle can stay healthy and if Reinbacher reaches his potential. That could be a great pair for 10+ years !

 

[SamHabsFan]

Uh, Moore. The unsexy picks of unsexiness. He's the easy pick. He's gonna be a NHL player. There's value in that, sure.. But f*** thats sad for a rebuilding team.

Would Newhook be a good comparison?

 

[Mrb1p]

Would Newhook be a good comparison?

I think Newhook flashed better offensive tools in his draft year. That didn't pan out exactly how I thought it would, of course, but aside from being outstanding skaters, Im not sure there's much comparisons. The "play style" standard comparison is Larkin, but I see Larkin as a way more A to B style player, whereas Moore is a A B but he crosses XYZ and probably some cyrilic letters too to get to B. Moore attacks the offensive zone like Caufield does, but he does not possess elite shooting on the rush, even if his shot is good.

There's something very un-translatable in his very translatable game.

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Hab Prospect Videos

Hab prospect fan, former writer for Hockey's Future.com as well as other blogs that cover the Montreal Canadians prospects.

www.youtube.com

if you see vids under 2 mins or so, that means it's just highlights so just good stuff.

The longer vids I put in the good and bad, some are shift by shift, but most I edit out the stuff where they aren't involved in the play. There's not as much on the draft as I had hoped to get done this year since this draft is so huge for the Habs, but with so many prospects to follow and work being busy as shit, I just haven't had the time.

Thank you very much

 

[Mrb1p]

EP are talking about ranking Sawchyn and Musty ahead of Reinbacher and they ranked Simachev ahead of him. These guys have lost the plot.

 

[SamHabsFan]

I think Newhook flashed better offensive tools in his draft year. That didn't pan out exactly how I thought it would, of course, but aside from being outstanding skaters, Im not sure there's much comparisons. The "play style" standard comparison is Larkin, but I see Larkin as a way more A to B style player, whereas Moore is a A B but he crosses XYZ and probably some cyrilic letters too to get to B. Moore attacks the offensive zone like Caufield does, but he does not possess elite shooting on the rush, even if his shot is good.

There's something very un-translatable in his very translatable game.

thank you sir!

 

[yianik]

Grant's current top 10 is... something.

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantilli
3. Matvei Michkov
4. Dalibor Dvorsky
5. Daniil But
6. Leo Carlsson
7. David Reinbacher
8. Zach Benson
9. Mikhail Gulyayev
10. Nate Danielson


It might be a tip of the hat to how the Habs see things. Who knows. But if Carlsson's on the board and we pass on him for Dvorsky or But, I may put my foot through my television (and I like both Dvorsky and But).

Wasn't TT Grants inside guy ? And as he is gone he has 0 insight into the Habs ?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Wasn't TT Grants inside guy ? And as he is gone he has 0 insight into the Habs ?

Correct

 

[Zilo44]

Wasn't TT Grants inside guy ? And as he is gone he has 0 insight into the Habs ?

Yeah so that’s the Jackets board

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

EP are talking about ranking Sawchyn and Musty ahead of Reinbacher and they ranked Simachev ahead of him. These guys have lost the plot.

Sawchyn and Musty that high is a little bold, my guess it they view Reinbacher's upside as good but not extraordinary?

Would explain why Simashev is their #1 d-man, which I completely agree with despite me understanding the reservations with him.

 

[Mrb1p]

Sawchyn and Musty that high is a little bold, my guess it they view Reinbacher's upside as good but not extraordinary?

Would explain why Simashev is their #1 d-man, which I completely agree with despite me understanding the reservations with him.

Basically half the people they have havent seen him and David St Louis doesn't like him that much so he's ranked low. Simachev is a beautiful prospect but this is ridiculous, he just doesn't have the IQ to produce while Reinbacher does and has proven it. They basically fall in love with the McCarron what-if package with Simachev.


They basically all agree that Reinbachers IQ is off the chart, the results are off the chart and then turn around and rank him 11. Bit of a push for ASP ahead of him too.

 

[morhilane]

Basically half the people they have havent seen him and David St Louis doesn't like him that much so he's ranked low. Simachev is a beautiful prospect but this is ridiculous, he just doesn't have the IQ to produce while Reinbacher does and has proven it. They basically fall in love with the McCarron what-if package with Simachev.

They basically all agree that Reinbachers IQ is off the chart, the results are off the chart and then turn around and rank him 11. Bit of a push for ASP ahead of him too.

How Simashev has been raising in the rankings: "he is 6'4'' 200 lbs!"

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Wasn't TT Grants inside guy ? And as he is gone he has 0 insight into the Habs ?

Word.

They're both from the Ottawa Valley, or close to it.

Once TT got canned, McCagg had 0 connection to the Habs.

He might have had a connection to Ottawa with Bryan Murray (RIP) and maybe the other Murray's as they're also from Shawville, but I can't imagine he has anything going on with any team around the league

 

[Fuonki]

The "scorign at a higher pace than Slaf" token doesn't mean anything as it includes almost every single prospects in Liiga history.

With that said, I love Hameenaho. His upside isn't too high but he has a legit shot at the NHL as a 2nd liner, I think. He's at 29 on my list I think.

Hämeenaho is almost like a copy of Sebastian Aho, who was similarly heavily underrated in his draft season for whatever reason. I'd be willing to bet he's also going to have a similar explosion in his production next season and finish the year as a PPG+ player in Liiga.

I'm not too convinced about the lack of upside tbh. His only major issue is his skating, which will probably improve a lot once he actually gains some muscle. Could easily be a 1st line winger with consistent 60-80 points per season. He's also very much like Kotkaniemi in the sense that I hardly ever see a shift where he doesn't fall down on the ice at least once lol

 

[ginomini]

EP are talking about ranking Sawchyn and Musty ahead of Reinbacher and they ranked Simachev ahead of him. These guys have lost the plot.

I mean, their rankings are kinda bogus because they just pitch all the favorites of their localized scouts. They have Sawchyn and Musty that high because their WHL and OHL scouts love them respectively and they want to give them a spotlight. And as you said, the guy who watched Reinbacher did not love him that much so they kinda just left him on the side. I don't put much value on their rankings because of that, but their conversations are still nice to listen to as a podcast form while I do the dishes hahaha.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Wasn't TT Grants inside guy ? And as he is gone he has 0 insight into the Habs ?

bonus take for you too



Love him or hate him he still basically called the Habs 1st three picks this year, and has done the same in the past before

 

[Jack Skellington]

These dudes are taking Dvorsky 100 percent

 

[Riggins]

bonus take for you too



Love him or hate him he still basically called the Habs 1st three picks this year, and has done the same in the past before

There were some years McCagg basically called all the picks from inside info. The Sergachev pick I don't think he had and definitely not the Mailloux pick.

Wouldn't be surprised if last year Timmins had some info still from his former cronies with loose lips still employed by the Habs. Then Timmins throws a bone to McCagg for some crazy reason.

With Timmins now a part of the CBJ staff you'd think that would stop.

 

[calder candidate]

Did McCagg work for the habs at some point as a scout? He probably had more connections than just TT even if that probably was is best connection.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Did McCagg work for the habs at some point as a scout? He probably had more connections than just TT even if that probably was is best connection.

He might still work for them as an amateur scout, but I think being directly hired by them ended a while ago, no ? Like before Bergevin was GM I believe.