2023 NHL Entry Draft

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MonkeyBusiness

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Not a fan of you tube video when it comes to evaluate the player we often see the good and not the bad, i should at least try to see how his transition game is but at least in his zone the consensus seems to be positive on hf bord from what ive read
It depends what you watch. Sometimes I'm too lazy to watch a full game, and luckily, montreal (the poster) has awesome shift-by-shift videos on Youtube.
 

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I'm curious what direction the habs go this draft. A lot of options between 5-8 but I'm worried we go off the board a bit. I feel like if they don't really have a guy they "want" then they should move back if it becomes available to them.

Nothing would make me more happy than drafting Michkov if he's available for our spot. He could play zero nhl games and I would still be fine with the pick. He would change our franchise if he comes over in a couple years, we don't need him next season.
 
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I'm curious what direction the habs go this draft. A lot of options between 5-8 but I'm worried we go off the board a bit. I feel like if they don't really have a guy they "want" then they should move back if it becomes available to them.

Nothing would make me more happy than drafting Michkov if he's available for our spot. He could play zero nhl games and I would still be fine with the pick. He would change our franchise if he comes over in a couple years, we don't need him next season.
What would be off the board between 5-8?

I think there is a case for maybe a dozens of prospects there. I think Moore, for example, would be considered off the board at 5-8 but i think there is a strong case for him, and many others, at this spot.
 

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What would be off the board between 5-8?

I think there is a case for maybe a dozens of prospects there. I think Moore, for example, would be considered off the board at 5-8 but i think there is a strong case for him, and many others, at this spot.
I agree a lot of players will be interesting for different reasons at 5-8. I think Reinbacher and maybe some other Ds will enter top 10, Benson, Smith, Leonard, Moore, Wood, Yager, Dvorsky could all be considered at that spot. I am not sure I would consider any of those picks a reach.
 

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I agree a lot of players will be interesting for different reasons at 5-8. I think Reinbacher and maybe some other Ds will enter top 10, Benson, Smith, Leonard, Moore, Wood, Yager, Dvorsky could all be considered at that spot. I am not sure I would consider any of those picks a reach.
What would be off the board between 5-8?

I think there is a case for maybe a dozens of prospects there. I think Moore, for example, would be considered off the board at 5-8 but i think there is a strong case for him, and many others, at this spot.

Yager and Moore would be pretty disappointing, but I'm thinking a guy like Danielson, Ritchie, Heidt, Honzek. Someone that seems to have "potential" that they fall in love with their game.

I would also argue Reinbacher is only being talked about because it's a weak draft for d. That pick would also disappoint me.
 

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Grant's current top 10 is... something.

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantilli
3. Matvei Michkov
4. Dalibor Dvorsky
5. Daniil But
6. Leo Carlsson
7. David Reinbacher
8. Zach Benson
9. Mikhail Gulyayev
10. Nate Danielson


It might be a tip of the hat to how the Habs see things. Who knows. But if Carlsson's on the board and we pass on him for Dvorsky or But, I may put my foot through my television (and I like both Dvorsky and But).
 

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Grant's current top 10 is... something.

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantilli
3. Matvei Michkov
4. Dalibor Dvorsky
5. Daniil But
6. Leo Carlsson
7. David Reinbacher
8. Zach Benson
9. Mikhail Gulyayev
10. Nate Danielson


It might be a tip of the hat to how the Habs see things. Who knows. But if Carlsson's on the board and we pass on him for Dvorsky or But, I may put my foot through my television (and I like both Dvorsky and But).
Seems a good time to dig out his deleted Strome > Mcdavid tweet...

On the internet, there's a fine line between contrarianism for attention's sake and standing for one's divergent opinion. Grant sure loves riding that line.
 

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Michkov @ 3. Makes me think he goes top 4 if Grant has him that high. But is also a great forward, would love him @ our 2nd round pick though.
 

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Michkov @ 3. Makes me think he goes top 4 if Grant has him that high. But is also a great forward, would love him @ our 2nd round pick though.
I have a feeling Hughes will trade the second (Floridas) pick. I'd rather keep it but I'm convinced he's gonna trade it. I presume it will be Dubois. Hughes has alluded to the fact .
 
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Ty didnt know that

if you see vids under 2 mins or so, that means it's just highlights so just good stuff.

The longer vids I put in the good and bad, some are shift by shift, but most I edit out the stuff where they aren't involved in the play. There's not as much on the draft as I had hoped to get done this year since this draft is so huge for the Habs, but with so many prospects to follow and work being busy as shit, I just haven't had the time.
 

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Grant's current top 10 is... something.

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantilli
3. Matvei Michkov
4. Dalibor Dvorsky
5. Daniil But
6. Leo Carlsson
7. David Reinbacher
8. Zach Benson
9. Mikhail Gulyayev
10. Nate Danielson


It might be a tip of the hat to how the Habs see things. Who knows. But if Carlsson's on the board and we pass on him for Dvorsky or But, I may put my foot through my television (and I like both Dvorsky and But).
Hopefully multiple teams above us have these rankings

If Dvorsky and especially But get drafted ahead of our pick, I might go overdose from joy
 

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Hameenaho scoring at higher pace than Slaf last year in Liiga, could see him late round 1, early round 2.
The "scorign at a higher pace than Slaf" token doesn't mean anything as it includes almost every single prospects in Liiga history.

With that said, I love Hameenaho. His upside isn't too high but he has a legit shot at the NHL as a 2nd liner, I think. He's at 29 on my list I think.
 
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Yeah, but having him in my top 5 was a big mistake on my part.

His offense ceiling is clearly limited. I see a 3rd liner right now if he makes it. Same kind of risk goes with Leonard, but I think he has still a greater upside.
Had him #4. Injuries did play a part too. Realistically, I'm pretty happy with my 2019 rankings though, just revisited and Kakko-Turcotte are the only big misses, also having Zegras too low but I stand by it as I still don't like the way he plays, lol.

Im not sure the gamble on Turcotte was too hard to make though, he checked pretty much all the boxes for a forward, maybe he fed off Zegras a bit too much, I guess, ironic.
 

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Yager and Moore would be pretty disappointing, but I'm thinking a guy like Danielson, Ritchie, Heidt, Honzek. Someone that seems to have "potential" that they fall in love with their game.

I would also argue Reinbacher is only being talked about because it's a weak draft for d. That pick would also disappoint me.
I’d argue it’s only a weak D draft bc there none in the Top 3-5, and no bundle from 10-18 or so.

After that fifth slot, you mean there can’t possibly be D man on the talent level of the remaining forwards?
 

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Just watched the eliteprospect ranking meeting. It's fun to watch a bunch of people discuss prospects tbh.

If we go forward and not Reinbacher in the top 10: They really like Moore. I think in most years I'd be down for more at 6+ (similarly to Kasper last year), but this year I feel like there are too many potential gamebreakers in the 6-10 range (Benson, Smith, Cristall) and we are in a position where we have a solid enough base that we should be going for a big swing imo. Even if I can agree we people ranking Moore, Dvorsky and Leonard higher than the other three (and I might too in the end), I think I'm leaning more towards absolute upside this year.
 
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I agree a lot of players will be interesting for different reasons at 5-8. I think Reinbacher and maybe some other Ds will enter top 10, Benson, Smith, Leonard, Moore, Wood, Yager, Dvorsky could all be considered at that spot. I am not sure I would consider any of those picks a reach.
Wood would be a reach for me with our first 1st.

Could see 3 of the program's quatuor (Moore, Leonard, Smith) get into the top 10 with their strong 2nd half.

U18 will be interesting as well and factor a lot IMO for the later part of that top 10.

My *tiers* for now, based on talent alone (not taking into account the Russian factor, etc.).

Bedard
Michkov
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Fantilli
Carlsson
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Smith
Benson
Leonard
Moore
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The rest

The others (Yager, Barlow, Reinbacher, ASP, Dvorsky, Danielson, Sale, etc.) could jump into the 3rd tier depending on league playoffs/U18 performances, but right now this is how I rank my top 8 players.

Grant's current top 10 is... something.

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantilli
3. Matvei Michkov
4. Dalibor Dvorsky
5. Daniil But
6. Leo Carlsson
7. David Reinbacher
8. Zach Benson
9. Mikhail Gulyayev
10. Nate Danielson


It might be a tip of the hat to how the Habs see things. Who knows. But if Carlsson's on the board and we pass on him for Dvorsky or But, I may put my foot through my television (and I like both Dvorsky and But).
I mean, having Carlsson at 6 is stupid.

Having none of the USNDP guys in the top 10 is ridiculous.
 

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Seems a good time to dig out his deleted Strome > Mcdavid tweet...

On the internet, there's a fine line between contrarianism for attention's sake and standing for one's divergent opinion. Grant sure loves riding that line.
He really did write that Strome was better than McDavid? Holysh**
 
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Just watched the eliteprospect ranking meeting. It's fun to watch a bunch of people discuss prospects tbh.

If we go forward and not Reinbacher in the top 10: They really like Moore. I think in most years I'd be down for more at 6+ (similarly to Kasper last year), but this year I feel like there are too many potential gamebreakers in the 6-10 range (Benson, Smith, Cristall) and we are in a position where we have a solid enough base that we should be going for a big swing imo. Even if I can agree we people ranking Moore, Dvorsky and Leonard higher than the other three (and I might too in the end), I think I'm leaning more towards absolute upside this year.
Uh, Moore. The unsexy picks of unsexiness. He's the easy pick. He's gonna be a NHL player. There's value in that, sure.. But f*** thats sad for a rebuilding team.
 

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I’d argue it’s only a weak D draft bc there none in the Top 3-5, and no bundle from 10-18 or so.

After that fifth slot, you mean there can’t possibly be D man on the talent level of the remaining forwards?

Of course there's a possibility, there's always a possibility, I just would rather go high risk and end up with a top line forward than a 2nd pairing dman. He has a lot of room to grow and could bust just as likely as a guy like Sandin Pellikka, Gulyayev, Dragicevic, Allen, Bonk. I see them all in the same grouping, imo, and I do like Reinbacher just not @ 8. I see a lot more top line potential from the forward group with Sale, Dvorsky, Benson then I do a #1 dman from that group. I could be totally wrong, but it's just where my brain is at. I think Reinbacher has a bit of luster to him, but the few times I watched him play I don't see a high IQ dman in his own end.
 
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