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2023 NHL Entry Draft

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morhilane said:
I think the fact that he plays in a lesser known league is why he's not higher in the rankings already. He's probably higher on NHL scout list that scout that league more.

It's going to be interesting where he is on Bob's pre-draft rankings. He was at 20 for the first half.
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I am as well, but we have to remember Seider was ranked 16 on Bob's final pre draft list.
 
HuGo seem to want to build a high iQ, fast, skilled team…

Who you think fits that bill best in the 6-10 range?
 
WeThreeKings said:
He will be gone before the Florida pick. It's very, very rare to see a draft go into the teens before a defenseman goes. Even last year, we saw Korchinski go WELL ahead of where people thought he'd be available.

If you like Reinbacher and you think he's the best pick at the spot, you take him.

For me that conversation starts when Smith and Benson are off the board. Then you're comparing Reinbacher to Yager, Sale, Dvorsky, Leonard, Moore, and Cristall.
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Sandin Pellikka could be the first to go between 6th and 10th.
 
McGees said:
HuGo seem to want to build a high iQ, fast, skilled team…

Who you think fits that bill best in the 6-10 range?
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Will smith to a T and Kent coached him for 2 years. If will smith is on the board when we pick and he are between 5-10, pretty sure we will take him
 
McGees said:
HuGo seem to want to build a high iQ, fast, skilled team…

Who you think fits that bill best in the 6-10 range?
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Oliver Moore and Gavin Brindley fits that description, while Moore doesnt have high end offensive awarenesses, he still has speed to burn, skating is elite, motor never stops, is a good puckhandler, still has good passing, shooting, he is a beast on pucks, plays a strong 200 ft. game, keeps possession, great at cycling and keeping the play alive, takes good decisions ect. He still plays smart and is talented, but there are kids with higher talent level out there coming with more risks. As an exemple, Smith's offensive awareness are top notch, stickhandling, playmaking, vision and offensive creativity are close to elite level, but it comes with a lower motor, a lack of strength, a more flawed 200ft. game, not agressive or strong enough on pucks, slowing the pace down too much, If you draft Smith, you take the gamble that after some seasoning and strengthening, the flaws wont be much of an issue and the goods will largely outweight the bads. Smith is about in the same situation as Suzuki was earlier on, very high skillls level, but very raw. I do think he has the IQ to follow a similar path, but there is no guarentee either. Moore is more projectable, you cant really go wrong here, his contribution goes beyond the scoresheet, kid is a gamer.

Brindley is very small, about the same size as Benson, but the skating is high end, so is the IQ, edge work, while the skills are easily top 6 material IMO. Kid is a good possession player despite his size, he rolls on the hits, is surprisingly strong for his size and constanly fights for pucks, Benson has the same tenacity you want to see in an undersized player. .
 
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Goldenhands said:
Oliver Moore and Gavin Brindley fits that description, while Moore doesnt have high end offensive awarenesses, he still has speed to burn, skating is elite, motor never stops, is a good puckhandler, still has good passing, shooting, he is a beast on pucks, plays a strong 200 ft. game, keeps possession, great at cycling and keeping the play alive, takes good decisions ect. He still plays smart and is talented, but there are kids with higher talent level out there coming with more risks. As an exemple, Smith's offensive awareness are top notch, stickhandling, playmaking, vision and offensive creativity are close to elite level, but it comes with a lower motor, a lack of strength, a more flawed 200ft. game, not agressive or strong enough on pucks, slowing the pace down too much, If you draft Smith, you take the gamble that after some seasoning and strengthening, the flaws wont be much of issue and the goods will largely outweight the bads. Smith is about in the same situation as Suzuki was earlier on, very high skillls level, but very raw. I do think he has the IQ to follow a similar path, but there is no guarentee either. Moore is more projectable, you cant really go wrong here, his contribution goes beyond the scoresheet, kid is a gamer.

Brindley is very small, about the same size as Benson, but the skating is high end, so is the IQ, edge work, while the skills are easily top 6 material IMO. Kid is a good possession player despite his size, he rolls on the hits, is surprisingly strong for his size and constanly fights for pucks, Benson has the same tenacity you want to see in an undersized player. .
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Mans making it sound like passing on Suzuki for Byron is a good idea
 
If we end up having 2 picks in the 8-15 range then taking Reinbacher with the first makes a lot of sense especially as there are so many great F's to choose from. Obviously you only do that if there isn't someone who you have ranked much higher... it's still early on though and I get this feeling that he may be gone by our first pick the way he is rising...
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I'd be surprised.. not very big, not putting up high offensive numbers.
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I wouldn't be suprised. He's a mobile and offensive minded defensemen, good in transition, good defensively, smart. Still a work in progress.
 
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Reinbacher has that “f*** it, I’ll do it myself” attitude that all top defencemen have. It’s weird that some scouts see only second pairing upside with him. Not saying he’s a guarantee lock for top-2, but he certainly has that potential.
 
Tanknation said:
Wow we will be sure to get him! Any chance we needed to be in the bottom 3. Management failed us unfortunately
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Strange take. At best you have 81.5% chance of not having Bedard.

Imagine killing your season, your player morale, losing on purpose, well killing your entire business values just to have less than 1 chance out of 5 to have Bedard.

Lets just hope that they ace the pick, whichever position it is. If we win Bedard, then f***ing great. But the environment in which Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle and etc. evolve is equally as important.
 
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Jaynki said:
Strange take. At best you have 81.5% chance of not having Bedard.

Imagine killing your season, your player morale, losing on purpose, well killing your entire business values just to have less than 1 chance out of 5 to have Bedard.

Lets just hope that they ace the pick, whichever position it is. If we win Bedard, then f***ing great. But the environment in which Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle and etc. evolve is equally as important.
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Not just talking about Bedard. We needed the top 3 pick this year for the guys to grow with this current generation of players. Instead we will forever be mediocre and our Young guys will be older before we know it. Rinse and repeat.
 
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Tanknation said:
Not just talking about Bedard. We needed the top 3 pick this year for the guys to grow with this current generation of players. Instead we will forever be mediocre and our Young guys will be older before we know it. Rinse and repeat.
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I don't disagree on this. We are probably one star away to have Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield in the right chair. Michkov, Fantilli, Bedard could all be that player.

There is some tough competition on the bottom of the standings tho. We can also draft a prospect who will rise to star status later in the draft like Zegras as a 9th overall.

We will see. Maybe Slaf and Dach will hit their absolute ceiling. I am confident that Dach could be a major star but i think Slaf is a tier lower. We will see. If Hutson and Dach hit their high ceiling we will be in business. The lacking starpower could be acquired through other ways.
 
Jaynki said:
Strange take. At best you have 81.5% chance of not having Bedard.

Imagine killing your season, your player morale, losing on purpose, well killing your entire business values just to have less than 1 chance out of 5 to have Bedard.

Lets just hope that they ace the pick, whichever position it is. If we win Bedard, then f***ing great. But the environment in which Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle and etc. evolve is equally as important.
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The top 4 matters, getting in the top 4 means you have 100% chances to get your best player.

Also the environment thing is BS, didn't stop Mackinnon from becoming a SC winner, or Ovechkin, or Crosby, or Stamkos, or Bergeron, or Kopitar.
 
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You do realize we can still win the lottery without finishing last as well
And the top 5 in this draft are all great additions. I think at worst we'll pick 7th. Who knows, we might even package the picks and trade up

We're still 2 months out from the end of the season, and we still have a tough schedule to finish it out plus a trade deadline to still go through and injuries playing a factor

We don't know how we'll finish and we can't assess properly until then.

But for now, we're on a hot streak but we are still a most likely bottom 5 team
 
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Can we stop with the “keeping a winning culture" argument? Sure its a defining factor but we’re not stuck in a perpetual state of mediocrity like other teams who purposely tanked for years. We’ve got a great supporting cast for our kids, most of the fanbase is behind the rebuilding process and HuGo seems VERY transparent with their players. The boys won’t lose on purpose but I think everyone knows we’re in a rebuilding mode. Heck, most of our kids are injured right now anyway.. they won’t learn anything from it.

Just embrace the tank and hope for the lowest picks possible at the draft. Do some of you seriously think that winning a handful of pointless games in a losing season will make any difference? Honestly, how much of a confidence booster does the team get by finishing 7-10th versus increasing our chances of getting a top 4? Id rather get the ladder and fill our bank with top tier prospects while we can. We’re not going to rebuild for eternity and this year is the perfect year to plan for the future.
 
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Jaynki said:
I don't disagree on this. We are probably one star away to have Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield in the right chair. Michkov, Fantilli, Bedard could all be that player.

There is some tough competition on the bottom of the standings tho. We can also draft a prospect who will rise to star status later in the draft like Zegras as a 9th overall.

We will see. Maybe Slaf and Dach will hit their absolute ceiling. I am confident that Dach could be a major star but i think Slaf is a tier lower. We will see. If Hutson and Dach hit their high ceiling we will be in business. The lacking starpower could be acquired through other ways.
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Yea but to get that superstar player, that involves trading away a top young player on the current team, and a top prospect. That is not the route I would want to go. We still will need a legit top 1C and a 1D, won't even bother getting into the goalie issue...

If Dach is a good C, PLD is pointless to get. What pay him 9 million to slot on the 3rd line? Good luck selling that to him. Point is, we need a superstar 1C . We have 2 decent centers but no true 1C.

Dach could be a perfect 3C with his size if we got a legit 1C. Nobody is trading a top 1C superstar young player. Never happens. Even then you would give up half the roster to get him
 
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