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WeThreeKings said:
Hughes gotta find a way for that 3rd 1st.

We need to make sure we grab a goalie and IDK if they'll still be sitting there at our round 2 pick.
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Maybe a team with 2 late 1st picks (none yet but perhaps after deadline), we can trade back with FLA pick.

Unless we trade Anderson, I’m starting to think another 1st is outta the question, unless there is a team who has a thing for injured bums.
 
The Great Weal said:
Anyone get the feeling that we trade up with the FLA pick to get Reinbacher? I'm REALLY liking his game and we desperately need RHD help because I'm not sold on Barron/Mailloux occupying the top 4.
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I think he may end up ranked closer to our pick if they want him and use FLA pick for a forward.
 
Team_Spirit said:
I agree with goalies generally but some years there's an obvious goalie stud coming along. Askarov is legit no way they trade him.

I'm on the Bjarnason train if we can get a late 1st.





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That 2 on 1 is perfect.. Look how quiet his feet are.. the shooter had to pass cause he had nothing and Bjarnason is over, doesn't over push, is right on top of the puck and makes an efficient save.
 
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McGees said:
Maybe a team with 2 late 1st picks (none yet but perhaps after deadline), we can trade back with FLA pick.

Unless we trade Anderson, I’m starting to think another 1st is outta the question, unless there is a team who has a thing for injured bums.
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I think Anderson and Dvorak are the only players not in our ultimate long-term plans who may fetch us another 1st. I have a feeling they won't get traded this year though. We still need some insulation for our youthful roster.
 
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Schooner Guy said:
I think Anderson and Dvorak are the only players not in our ultimate long-term plans who may fetch us another 1st. I have a feeling they won't get traded this year though. We still need some insulation for our youthful roster.
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Wishful thinking, I think both would net us a late 2nd at best, Dvorak might have a bit more value based on his deal
 
McGees said:
Danielson rising on lists.
We may need to use FLA pick for Bjarnason👀

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Lol f*** that noise.

If you have the choice between Bjarnason and Benson/Heidt/Reinbacher/Wood/Leonard/Moore/Barlow/Yager/Cristall and you pick the former give your head a shake.

A middle of the pack starter is worth a 3rd line C on the trade market. The likeliness of getting a 3rd liner >>> getting a middle of the pack starting goaltender.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Lol f*** that noise.

If you have the choice between Bjarnason and Benson/Heidt/Reinbacher/Wood/Leonard/Moore/Barlow/Yager/Cristall and you pick the former give your head a shake.

A middle of the pack starter is worth a 3rd line C on the trade market. The likeliness of getting a 3rd liner >>> getting a middle of the pack starting goaltender.
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If you draft Bjarnason, it's because you think he will become a solid starter not a middle of the pack goalie
 
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Vachon23 said:
If you draft Bjarnason, it's because you think he will become a solid starter not a middle of the pack goalie
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Middle of the pack starter *

He better be a top 10 starter for ten years or you blew a top 15 pick on him. Insane price to pay for a goaltender. Even Price wasnt worth the 5th overall and I believe hes an alltime goat.
 
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NekkiChiconey said:
Not a fan of picking a goalie in the 1st round. Too much uncertainty. I would much rather build a solid team and sign a goalie when the time comes. On average there are 3-4 goalies available for cheap every year who can do just fine behind a contender.
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Exactly and theyre easy to find on the trade or UFA market also. Georgiev, Vanecek,Kuemper, Jones and Husso were all traded or signed this summer.
 
Simarino said:
Exactly and theyre easy to find on the trade or UFA market also. Georgiev, Vanecek,Kuemper, Jones and Husso were all traded or signed this summer.
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Kuemper did cost to Colorado a 1st round pick when we thought he was good.

And for the rest of those guys, they are the weak spot of there team too and they are probably the reason why those teams won't win the cup

Mrb1p said:
or you blew a top 15 pick on him
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I would't use a top 15 pick on him for sure but a late 1st round pick when most of the players drafted at that range are top 9/bottom 6 players or #4-5-6 Dmen ? If I thing he can be a top 10 starter I would do it anything
 
WeThreeKings said:
A solid starter right now is a top 10 goalie in the NHL, tbh.
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I tend to reserve top-10 spots (guys like Vasilevsky, Sorokin, Hellebuyck, Shesterkin, Oettinger, etc.) for goalies that would be called great or elite. At the very least good.

Once you get to edge of that, you're looking at a lot more uncertainty. For example, this year you can argue Georgiev, Montembault, Samsonov, Forseberg and Vejmelka as being on the edge of top-10.
 
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Vachon23 said:
I don't consider those guys as solid starter, I don't even consider them as starter.
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That's fine, but its also my issue with a "solid starter", especially if you're drafting for one in the first round. If "solid starters" actually exist that aren't in fact elite starters or high end starters, then you're getting a goalie that will consistently be outplayed by at least a half dozen guys who people don't consider solid starters or even starters.

That's like using a top-5 pick to try to shore up your #4 D spot or your 3rd line center.
 
Captain Mountain said:
I tend to reserve top-10 spots (guys like Vasilevsky, Sorokin, Hellebuyck, Shesterkin, Oettinger, etc.) for goalies that would be called great or elite. At the very least good.

Once you get to edge of that, you're looking at a lot more uncertainty. For example, this year you can argue Georgiev, Montembault, Samsonov, Forseberg and Vejmelka as being on the edge of top-10.
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That initial list you have is basically it.. I think Bjarnason can be a top 6-10 goalie in the NHL.

The way I look at the two goalies in this draft is:
Hrabal could be a top 5 goalie in the NHL but there's a chance he doesn't ever pan out until much later like Markstrom.
Bjarnason I think can be a top 10 goalie, unlikely he's ever considered one of the top 3.. but he will provide us with strong, cup contending goaltending with a steady career.

I'm just saying the goalie landscape has changed dramatically.. there isn't a lot of good goalies around and making sure we have one of them, when we can, is better than adding another prospect who would be at the Joshua Roy level at best.

Our depth in the system is pretty good on forward and defense, will be bolstered by two picks in the top 16 of the draft.. that if we had a 3rd first, I think it a wise investment on a goalie.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
That initial list you have is basically it.. I think Bjarnason can be a top 6-10 goalie in the NHL.

The way I look at the two goalies in this draft is:
Hrabal could be a top 5 goalie in the NHL but there's a chance he doesn't ever pan out until much later like Markstrom.
Bjarnason I think can be a top 10 goalie, unlikely he's ever considered one of the top 3.. but he will provide us with strong, cup contending goaltending with a steady career.

I'm just saying the goalie landscape has changed dramatically.. there isn't a lot of good goalies around and making sure we have one of them, when we can, is better than adding another prospect who would be at the Joshua Roy level at best.

Our depth in the system is pretty good on forward and defense, will be bolstered by two picks in the top 16 of the draft.. that if we had a 3rd first, I think it a wise investment on a goalie.
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Ah, I came in too late, I don't have an issue if its a 3rd late 1st or an early 2nd. I just don't know enough about the goaltenders in the draft and "solid goaltender" feels like a really shallow bar when you can get one of those off of waivers.
 
Captain Mountain said:
Ah, I came in too late, I don't have an issue if its a 3rd late 1st or an early 2nd. I just don't know enough about the goaltenders in the draft and "solid goaltender" feels like a really shallow bar when you can get one of those off of waivers.
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I guess it's terminology.. Solid goaltender in the sense that they are going to give you above average goaltending every night, they might not actively steal games at the frequency Price did.. but they won't lose you games. Giving you that stability every season.

There isn't very many of those guys in the league.. right now it's a variance every year as to who is gonna have a good year vs. who isn't.. and then those guys don't hold up in the play-offs.

I'd say Bjarnason could get to the Oettinger tier, for a comparable.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I guess it's terminology.. Solid goaltender in the sense that they are going to give you above average goaltending every night, they might not actively steal games at the frequency Price did.. but they won't lose you games. Giving you that stability every season.

There isn't very many of those guys in the league.. right now it's a variance every year as to who is gonna have a good year vs. who isn't.. and then those guys don't hold up in the play-offs.

I'd say Bjarnason could get to the Oettinger tier, for a comparable.
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There is no goaltender that wont lose you games every once and a while and there are maybe 6-8 goaltenders that you can rely on year to year. Oettinger isn't a solid goaltender, he's a great to elite goaltender and well on his way to being one of the best goaltenders in the world.

That definition of "solid goaltender" feels like its from the trap/dead puck era, which we moved out of a few seasons ago. Teams and systems are just scoring more and creating more offense nowadays.
 
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