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Ozymandias said:
That he hides his intentions well... Crosby does that.
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Ah, in that sense.

Mario Lemieux was also a master at this, since he was able to go to the extreme of his range of motion. Could fake a pass to the extreme then shoot it, or the reverse. Or fake left or right and sell it to defenders. Or of course, the best ever on breakaways.

Unreadability.
 
BenchBrawl said:
Ah, in that sense.

Mario Lemieux was also a master at this, since he was able to go to the extreme of his range of motion. Could fake a pass to the extreme then shoot it, or the reverse. Or fake left or right and sell it to defenders. Or of course, the best ever on breakaways.

Unreadability.
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Kind of like that McDavid play where he looked like he was standing still on the blue line, then walked right in between the gap and scored. Insane level of trickery on skill.

 
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BenchBrawl said:
What does that mean?
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You basically don't know what he will do or where he will go. It's hard to anticipate his decisions.
He does that by holding the puck, using each mini second at his disposal and reducing the defender's choices to a maximum. This leads to defenders making what looks like dumbass plays, but it's just that they could not read Bedard as easily as other players (hence information-denial). There is a large chasm between Bedard and others players on this.

Ozymandias said:
That he hides his intentions well... Crosby does that.
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He's ok, I think Bedard is at another level on this (more frequency). Crosby often chooses the athletism road vs. the pure IQ road.
 
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SOLR said:
You basically don't know what he will do or where he will go. It's hard to anticipate his decisions.
He does that by holding the puck, using each mini second at his disposal and reducing the defender's choices to a maximum. This leads to defenders making what looks like dumbass plays, but it's just that they could not read Bedard as easily as other players (hence information-denial). There is a large chasm between Bedard and others players on this.



He's ok, I think Bedard is at another level on this (more frequency). Crosby often chooses the athletism road vs. the pure IQ road.
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OK thanks. You're right, Bedard is very unreadable/unpredictable.

From what I've seen, Michkov seems even better at this than him. That's why in an ideal world I'd pick him 1st overall.
 
waitin425 said:
Kind of like that McDavid play where he looked like he was standing still on the blue line, then walked right in between the gap and scored. Insane level of trickery on skill.

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McDavid is actually pretty average at hiding his intention. He has some insane skill displays, but Bedard just does it while playing normally without attempting a big trick. If McDavid had that, he would have Gretzky-like stats.

BenchBrawl said:
OK thanks. You're right, Bedard is very unreadable/unpredictable.

From what I've seen, Michkov seems even better at this than him. That's why in an ideal world I'd pick him 1st overall.
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Michkov is pretty good as well, but I think Bedard is another level on Michkov (in terms of being difficult to read with the puck). Michkov has something else that is unique, he's already world-class at first-men bypass (ie. he nearly always beat his coverage - partly because he's elusive and partly because he's a strong little fella).
 
I am really liking the makeup of our team and prospects....but my god would I love to acquire one of Bedard or Michkov.

When was the last time the Habs had a player who was at or near the best in the league. A legitimate generational superstar.

We need our Crosby, McDavid, Ovechkin, Matthews, MacKinnon, Makar.

We need a guy that is truly untouchable. A guy that there are no question marks about. A guy that is the guy.

I so hope our tank continues for one more year and we get that guy.
 
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waitin425 said:
I am really liking the makeup of our team and prospects....but my god would I love to acquire one of Bedard or Michkov.

When was the last time the Habs had a player who was at or near the best in the league. A legitimate generational superstar.

We need our Crosby, McDavid, Ovechkin, Matthews, MacKinnon, Makar.

We need a guy that is truly untouchable. A guy that there are no question marks about. A guy that is the guy.

I so hope our tank continues for one more year and we get that guy.
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We need that guy IMO - much easier with THAT guy.
 
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If the Habs pick outside the Goldilocks Zone for a centre, I’m almost locked in on Cam Allen, D, Guelph.

Watched every game of the Sault-Guelph opening round series this year and Allen was everywhere. Great skater. Excellent passer, decent shot and smart. He’s 5’11, 190.

I think by late-winter he’ll be solidly in the Top 10.

Anyone else love Allen, a RD!?

SOLR said:
We need that guy IMO - much easier with THAT guy.
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Some of the Rising Teams don’t have That Guy.

Ya hate to see that. 🙂

Hopefully, things fall into place and the Habs get their guy.
 
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BeliveauFan4ever said:
If the Habs pick outside the Goldilocks Zone for a centre, I’m almost locked in on Cam Allen, D, Guelph.

Watched every game of the Sault-Guelph opening round series this year and Allen was everywhere. Great skater. Excellent passer, decent shot and smart. He’s 5’11, 190.

I think by late-winter he’ll be solidly in the Top 10.

Anyone else love Allen, a RD!?


Some of the Rising Teams don’t have That Guy.

Ya hate to see that. 🙂

Hopefully, things fall into place and the Habs get their guy.
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They rise, they fall, it's less consistent without that guy.
 
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BeliveauFan4ever said:
If the Habs pick outside the Goldilocks Zone for a centre, I’m almost locked in on Cam Allen, D, Guelph.

Watched every game of the Sault-Guelph opening round series this year and Allen was everywhere. Great skater. Excellent passer, decent shot and smart. He’s 5’11, 190.

I think by late-winter he’ll be solidly in the Top 10.

Anyone else love Allen, a RD!?


Some of the Rising Teams don’t have That Guy.

Ya hate to see that. 🙂

Hopefully, things fall into place and the Habs get their guy.
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Only 2 defensemen in the last 20 years of OHL history scored more goals as a U17 than Cam: Jakub Chychrun and Ryan Ellis. We'll have to follow him for sure, OHL rookie of the year and with the D crop as thin as it is he might be the first off the board.
 
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NotProkofievian said:
Only 2 defensemen in the last 20 years of OHL history scored more goals as a U17 than Cam: Jakub Chychrun and Ryan Ellis. We'll have to follow him for sure, OHL rookie of the year and with the D crop as thin as it is he might be the first off the board.
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He's already rising up in the rankings quite a bit. The kid is a talent for sure.
 
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caufieldbeerman said:
I don’t think people realize that having St-Louis as a coach since the start of the year , 20-30 games from Price and 40-50 from Allen , caufield producing as a 35-40 goals scorers , Guhle-Harris eating big minutes , slaf producing 60 points , Suzuki improving , veterans like Dvo-Andy- Drouin over producing could actually end our chances of finishing bottom 5.

Let’s say the team have lot of chemistry and is well coached I think we will not finish top bottom 5 sorry to say that but it’s the truth our kids will improve this year and everyone will be better we just need 2 nhl caliber goalies.

To finish bottom 5 it means our rookies will suck and I don’t want that.
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You’re also assuming that the other ‘competing’ teams will have all stagnated. Our ‘falling out’ of the top five is as likely as Florida collapsing and missing the playoffs. While anything is possible, its far more profitable exercise to deal with probabilities than possibilities.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
That's perfectly fine.

Adam Fantilli is a fantastic prospect and would be the best forward prospect we've had, since what?
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We should only be so lucky to have to 'settle' for Fantilli. He would be our best forward prospect since I watched Stephane Richer skate through the Soviet team with ease at the 1985 WJC. Even Bedard was blown away with the speed, talent and physical presence Fantilli exhibited at this last U18. This kid reminds me of a young Mackinnon. And which team wouldn't want that that type of player? And if Fantilli's development continues at the NCAA level this year, there is little doubt in my mind who I would be drafting first overall next June. No doubt at all.
 
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BenchBrawl said:
Eichel, a franchise player? Give me a break. Marner? Borderline (do you win with him as the best player on your team?). Even Rantanen is questionable (3rd best player on his team).

You're talking about passing on Michkov for a guy of their caliber, and this one is a particularly strong draft from that criteria too.

f*** that.

If you keep checking the other drafts, you'll see how few there are with several real franchise players. I checked them all.

Not a chance I'm passing on Michkov for this.

See the difference between how far McDavid pushed Edmonton almost singlehandedly in the playoffs, versus Marner for Toronto. That's why I don't want to pass on Michkov.
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Prime Eichel and Marner are both better than Rantanen.
 
I haven't really followed the 2023 class. If he were in next year's draft, where would Slafkovsky rank amongst the class? Would he be in or out of the top 5? Just trying to understand the perceived skill and depth of next year's draft.
 
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