2023 NHL Entry Draft

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2024 does seems to look like a really good draft for defensemen, unlike 2023. From Europe there's the already mentioned Kiviharju and Jiříček and also Galvas from Czechia. All seem to be great puck movers, which is exactly what the Habs need more from their future blueline

Yeah, for sure. There's also Henry Mews, from Ottawa 67s, Jakub Chromiak (Martin's younger brother) with Sudbury, and Zeev Buium, who's already playing with U-18 for US. At least 8-12 D are projected for 1st round in 2024.

It's more in line with the 2019 draft (J. Hughes / NTDP draft) when Byram, Seider, Broberg, Soderstrom, York, Harley, Thompson, Heinola, Bjornfoot & Ryan Johnson all went 1st round - 10 D.
 
How Yager compare to Caufield in term of scoring? If he drop to the Florida pick, could be a could pick. A Carlsson/Fantilli (size) + Yager would be an ideal draft (if we dont win the lottery).
 
How Yager compare to Caufield in term of scoring? If he drop to the Florida pick, could be a could pick. A Carlsson/Fantilli (size) + Yager would be an ideal draft (if we dont win the lottery).

Yager is much more complete than Caufield, but Caufield is a better scorer.

Yager could be a better Suzuki (and that's scary good).
 
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Yager is a good two way center? Could be interesting.

What i see in Yager is a player that will hurt you with his shoot after a turn over, if we draft a center and Yager is there i’m doing backflip to the podium. Yager on Suzuki wing, **insert Homer donut gif**

Slaf Suz Yag
Cauf Carlsson Dach
 
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If we draft at #2 I’d want us to go with either Michkov or Carlsson.

Fantilli seems like a man child and that always gives me concerns about how much more a player can develop especially with all the questions about his hockey I.Q.

I had similar concerns with Byfield.
 
Have faith brethren. Ran it once this morning....

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Cristall - Bedard - Slaf
Dach - Suzuki - Caufield
Roy - PLD - Mesar
Heinemen - Beck - Anderson
 
Yager is a good two way center? Could be interesting.

He's becoming that; he has the skating to become that in spades, and the defence is there as well. What was missing before this year was getting a lot of reps at center / faceoffs. I hope they are patient with him if we draft him, let him be a center for 2 more years in the CHL to flesh out his game.

What i see in Yager is a player that will hurt you with his shoot after a turn over, if we draft a center and Yager is there i’m doing backflip to the podium. Yager on Suzuki wing, **insert Homer donut gif**

Slaf Suz Yag
Cauf Carlsson Dach

That's 16 years old Yager, who played on the wing because he was 16 - won't be the extent of Yager's repertoire.
 
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If we draft at #2 I’d want us to go with either Michkov or Carlsson.

Fantilli seems like a man child and that always gives me concerns about how much more a player can develop especially with all the questions about his hockey I.Q.

I had similar concerns with Byfield.
I’m leaning Carlsson at #2

1.Bedard
2.Carlsson
3.Fantilli
4.Michkov
5.Yager

Think I’m pretty set now on this

But i can see Michkov drop due to his contractual situation…..depends who’s picking and how long they ok to wait.
 
Pretty sure we would be the first to draft a D vs. Cristall...you can't have Caufield, Bedard and Cristall on the same lineup in the NHL, we'll lose just because we are small.
Fair enough. Let's say we had 10th and no defencemen projected to be picked inside the top 15? Would you trade the 10th to move back to Rangers 23rd and 31st?

What about the 10th for Chychrun or Dumba?

Just spit balling, because I think it may be a stretch grabbing a D at 10 when there may be 5-6 more players that are BPA at that position. Of course tons can change come draft time.
 
Fair enough. Let's say we had 10th and no defencemen projected to be picked inside the top 15? Would you trade the 10th to move back to Rangers 23rd and 31st?

What about the 10th for Chychrun or Dumba?

Just spit balling, because I think it may be a stretch grabbing a D at 10 when there may be 5-6 more players that are BPA at that position. Of course tons can change come draft time.
Absolutely no point for the Habs to trade for anyone over the age of 23, let alone wasting a high draft pick for it. Not even McDavid could turn this team into an instant contender, so it's far better to just suck up for the next couple years and build up from scratch
 
Fair enough. Let's say we had 10th and no defencemen projected to be picked inside the top 15? Would you trade the 10th to move back to Rangers 23rd and 31st?

What about the 10th for Chychrun or Dumba?

Just spit balling, because I think it may be a stretch grabbing a D at 10 when there may be 5-6 more players that are BPA at that position. Of course tons can change come draft time.

There are many others forwards I could see myself pick at 10 who fit our needs more. Barlow, Ritchie, Heidt
I think there will be many Ds worthy of 10th overall, and they are all RDs. (what we need) --- would consider trading down to 14-15 maybe, get a good extra pick. Someone will want to enter the top 10.

I'm not for trading for Dumba at all.
Chychrun doesn't play the right position - depends of contract stuff. The issue here is that the moment Guhle gets paid, and you have Chychrun as well, it's a setup for cap issues or RD issues. We want to carefully calibrate this to have another highly paid D, play RD before we start adding to flesh out the top 4.

He's always looked like MacKinnon lite to me.

He's more celebral than MacKinnon, who has a power edge. I agree they often look the same.
 
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How Yager compare to Caufield in term of scoring? If he drop to the Florida pick, could be a could pick. A Carlsson/Fantilli (size) + Yager would be an ideal draft (if we dont win the lottery).

The only comparable is the wrister in stride, Caufield is a better shooter all over the board otherwise. Hes very good though, but I feel the Habs may not need him as a player.

Yager is much more complete than Caufield, but Caufield is a better scorer.

Yager could be a better Suzuki (and that's scary good).
How is he more complete ? Caufield is the better shooter and the better playmaker. I don't think Yager is in the same category skills-wise as Caufield. Or were you talking about defensive play/physical ? If so, its a moot point to bring up, you don't draft Caufield for his hits, but still, not wrong and I think Yager can be a guy that somewhats tilts the ice like Pacioretty did for the Habs, despite not being a particularly good passer.

I really like Yager and I think he can be a very good Pacioretty style player, I think the experiment at C is nice and all, but don't see him sticking there. His bread and butter is the skating and the shot in stride, theres no reasons to fix what isnt broken. He suffers from blind spots too often to be a good center or even a good playmaker at the next level. Theres also something to be said about the value of a good neutral-zone and Dzone transition winger like Yager for a team, trying to force all the players with some kind of defensive acumen or understanding of breakout scheme to the center is annoying.
 
Pretty sure we would be the first to draft a D vs. Cristall...you can't have Caufield, Bedard and Cristall on the same lineup in the NHL, we'll lose just because we are small.
We draft the BPA. If that is Bedard and Cristall I don’t see a issue having 3 small player isn’t ideal if they aren’t great but if we had 3 Caufield right now we be jumping up and down and Bedard could be even better.
 
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We draft the BPA. If that is Bedard and Cristall I don’t see a issue having 3 small player isn’t ideal if they aren’t great but if we had 3 Caufield right now we be jumping up and down and Bedard could be even better.
This and Bedrad might not be that small in 2 years. He is just 17,5 yo and is 5'10'' - 185 lbs. Wouldn't surprise me he he grows an inch or 2 and ends up at like 5'11''-6'0'' - 200 lbs.
 
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Hopefully they are able to get a young D at the trade deadline like they did last year... because I'd rather not reach by position especially in this draft.

I don't think we'll reach. There's some interesting defense prospects between 15-50. If we get a third 1st, and a second 2nd, we could go: 2 F, 2D & a goalie and come away with some enticing pieces.

This draft has a much better top 20, maybe 25 than 2022 but I felt 2022 had steals through first 100 picks (early 4th). Not as confident about that in this draft.

Wouldn't hesitate for a second to throw in 2 of our 4ths (keep our own 4th), both 5ths & a 6th to get more top 60 picks if need be.

I'd to keep the 7th for any overagers that they want to draft.
 
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We draft the BPA. If that is Bedard and Cristall I don’t see a issue having 3 small player isn’t ideal if they aren’t great but if we had 3 Caufield right now we be jumping up and down and Bedard could be even better.
Bedard AND Michkov is a take, so why not Bedard and Cristall?

(FWIW, I really like one of the top 4, plus Barlow.)
 
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