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Need to accelerate it hopefully as I have the same worries.
2023 NHL Draft situation
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we need to get 1 of those 3 or this season was a waste. this is the year to take offers that you feel are slighlty under market. last year I understood. its his first year. If the market on Domi is a 3-4 so be it. if its mcabb 2nd no retention. you take it. in all honesty I would rather see murph move then mcabb if the returns were close. I also think you move 1 of lafferty or raddsyh. there has to more value to a team up against the cap then for us being a bottom 4 team. My guess is we have our ask and teams have there offer. hopefully we splitt those and move out 5-6 guys at the deadline
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My only thought in regards to the bolded is that how many years are the top three picks not the top three players 5 years down the line? I'm not concerned if we drop down to the 4th or 5th slot. We must trust the process! The Hockey Gods may very well smile upon us with the 1st OA .. but fear not if we lose out as they may have something else in mind for the phoenix who will once again rise!
I have been saying this to everyone who will listen. Kane and Toews (Illness forcing likely retirement) are holding the team hostage with NTC, but there are other players who can be traded and need to be traded asap. The whole goal of this season in which we saw Kyle Davidson ship out all our young talent in offseason (DeBrincat, Dach, Hagel) was to purposefully tank in a year when there is generational talent coming through the draft. Kyle Davidson is absolutely failing as a GM by not making moves to further gain draft capital and prospects while bottoming out this roster in order to ensure the worst record in NHL. There is a massive difference between 2nd to last and last which is the possibility of falling no further than 3rd overall in the draft. I honestly think if Blackhawks end up drafting later than 3rd Davidson should be fired because this would be his f***up and nobody else. The players will never try and tank so its the GMs job to make sure this team does not succeed
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They're not going to fire Davidson after one season.
I agree they wont! I am saying I think they should. You cant blow up the teams talent pool to tank, only to do it half assed and not tank far enough to get a top 2 pick. That's management malpractice.
I agree, I am NOT a scout or analyst but from very limited reading watching and seeing what the experts on here write Smith then Benson then Cristall (nod to Musto) may end up the best players in this draft.
Davidson is (to me) walking a high wire. It really appears (to me) that style of play and work ethic is most important to him. I always listen to the other teams feed. While they point out the poor record they praise the Hawks work ethic. Noting that usually when playing bad teams you can coast to a win. As bad as they are, if you coast vs the hawks you might not win. They can’t out talent you but they are rarely out worked.
Richardson, Another high wire. Doing what he can but it can’t be overt or he’d lose respect of players.
He uses the works hard reason to “reward” guys with not only ice time but PP time.
He also needs Domi and AA playing prime minutes for trade purposes.
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LavalPhantom
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Not ideal, but at the end of the day, the Hawks don’t need to trade him. That’s where their leverage is. They can still set a minimum return, something like a 1st and B prospect. It will be less than if there was a bidding war, but it should remain a decent return.
That’s his guess. (1 option) He doesn’t even state “I heard from someone that …”.
another option is he only wants to play in Columbus so he’s gonna sign for the minimum there this summer. Yet another option is he will only accept a trade to a non playoff team so he can be home in early April.
Lots of options
Bolded; true but would you like to say legend of your team that he wont get a chance to another cup because you couldn't blackmail enough capital? Think how he and his fans feel if said team actually wins stanley cup.
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LavalPhantom
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Wouldn’t bat an eye. I love Kaner and all, but he can’t be mad if the Hawks don’t end up trading him after only giving one team and in the process killing most of the leverage.
He owes them as much as they owe him. Both parties signed a contract. It has a no-movement clause, which the Hawks are respecting. It doesn’t have a trade-me-to-the-team-I-want clause.
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There's no way Tampa hasn't already offered a 2nd for Lafferty, right?
Are they waiting on a Kane decision too?
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It would have to be 2024 which would be alright by me.
I’d prefer to trade it elsewhere if possible, as I don’t want to help TB at all. Go Leafs in round one…
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Well, I enjoy watching the Leafs fail so I hope Laff and Kane end up there to roll them in the first round lol!
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I was a naughty boy and changed my message after I realized they had a 2024. Apologies, Musto my busto.
TheFridge
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That's... exactly what an NMC is. Kane has to agree to waive his NMC before he's dealt. He's not compelled to waive it before a deal to a team of his choice is agreed upon. Kane's in full control.
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No, what I meant by that is that he can’t force the Hawks to trade him. If the return sucks, they are totally in their right to keep him. It would not be disrespectful in any way.
So now after the Zaitsev trade the Hawks have an additional 2nd rounder...
#3, #27, #35, #42, #59, #67, #94 and #99
There has been mention of Graycn Sawchyn as possible pick...#35 would have been too early, #59 he’d be gone...now they have that Ottawa 2nd at maybe #42...!
#3, #27, #35, #42, #59, #67, #94 and #99
There has been mention of Graycn Sawchyn as possible pick...#35 would have been too early, #59 he’d be gone...now they have that Ottawa 2nd at maybe #42...!
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Ah I gotcha. Agreed. The Hawks aren't under any obligation to trade him but I don't know that Davidson wants to be the guy that refused to trade the franchise icon who had asked for the opportunity to chase another Cup.
If Boston wins the division it doesn’t matter which team (Tampa or Toronto) loses 1st. If they depart in rd1 and rd2 they will draft based on their regular season finish.
Should be negotiating his 1 year contract for next year to be signed at the completion of season.
Trade Kane (for what you can get) let him shoot for a cup.
Bring him back on a 1 yr, 10 mill deal with 8 mill as signing bonus.
Trade him again at next yrs deadline. (For what you can get)
Bring him back on a 1 yr, (same as last year) deal.
Trade him again at the deadline.
I expect Kane to still be very good in 2-3 years but to have declined some. I also expect Chicago to be better and possible playoff team and maybe needing cap space.
So at that point work a deal for a couple of years at a reasonable price. However many years it should take to reach the Hawk scoring records he wants to chase.
He could add a 1st rd pick plus (or similar value) every year for 3 years.
Kane negotiated the right to pick and choose (or not pick). I still think he’s waiting to as close as possible to make sure injury doesn’t ruin a teams chances. A major injury to a star lower their cup chances.
What are Tarasenko’s chances of winning if Pararin misses the playoff?
I would bet Kane had/has several teams on his list of possible locales. Soon he’ll weigh their cup chances and pick teams for Chicago to deal him to.
I can see him going somewhere surprising. He wants to play on the biggest stage. For the NHL that’s the cup finals. That’s why (my opinion) he may end up in the west where he could put Edmonton, Winnipeg, Vegas or especially Dallas over the top.
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