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Bedard is the prize. He is elite and a superstar. If that doesn't happen I would love to grab Leo Carlsson with the 2nd or 3rd OA pick. With Tampa's pick, you might end up with Stenberg, Honzek, Strammel, or Cataford.

If NYR wants Kane they will give up a first-round 20-23rd, which lands Leonard, Reinbacher, Danielson, or Ritchie.

Those are still great building blocks to go with Korchinski, Nazar, Rinzel

First Round Picks
C-Carlsson, Nazar, Reichel...maybe Strammel-Danielson
F-maybe...Stenberg, Leonard, Cataford, Honzek
D-Korchinski, Rinzel...maybe Reinbacher

In this situation...ideal in bold for 2023. I would take Carlsson, Leonard, and Stenberg all day long in this draft

C-Carlsson-Nazar-Reichel
F-Stenberg-Leonard
D-Korchinski-Rinzel-Allan

That's not a bad base to build around
 
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Kevin Musto said:
Don't think those guys will be available at 20.

Still not sure how I feel about his lack of speed.
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I agree that Leonard and Reinbacher may not be available at 20sih. I was going by draftsite

Carlsson lack of speed??? He drives down the middle, has great hands, vision and the skating is not an issue. He attacks the middle ice as well as any center in the draft outside of Bedard.

 
MicronMega said:
I agree that Leonard and Reinbacher may not be available at 20sih. I was going by draftsite

Carlsson lack of speed??? He drives down the middle, has great hands, vision and the skating is not an issue. He attacks the middle ice as well as any center in the draft outside of Bedard.

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That footage proves my point.

There's no speed there.

There's lots of space because it's the SHL, and he manipulates it because he's a good stickhandler and strong on the puck. Good edgework too.

I agree on him attacking the middle ice well, but he's not doing it using speed.
 
Know this is probably useless conjecture, as are the prospect watch threads in the main boards, but how many would really pass on Michkov at #2?

He's going to come over, the way he's getting tossed around right now to sochi to get playing time is probably worthy to think of. Malkin had to basically seek asylum and lie to escape his country & contract... The kid has been deemed the next ovechkin for so incredibly long.

From the Athletic:

When Sport-Express in Russia asked him if his contract could impact his draft position, he responded: “When I signed the contract, I didn’t think about the draft, and now I don’t think about it either. It doesn’t matter to me. You need to show all the best that you can do and be useful to your team. This is more important.”​
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How is his loyalty tied to SKA now? You think he doesn't want to create his own legacy in the NHL? He would rather stay in Russia with the threat of nuclear footballs and all even if he was drafted by a world class city like Chicago (also connected by a Russian demographic)?

I hope the hawks don't end up drafting 2nd, because even though I like Fantilli, I would hate to know we got dicked down by a lottery system on bedard, and then have regret seeing Michkov years down the line perform at Bedard's pedigree(or better?) when we are *finally* coming out of the rebuild.
 
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Kevin Musto said:
That footage proves my point.

There's no speed there.

There's lots of space because it's the SHL, and he manipulates it because he's a good stickhandler and strong on the puck. Good edgework too.

I agree on him attacking the middle ice well, but he's not doing it using speed.
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That's simply not true. There's speed and power in his stride. He's a big kid and he skates really well for his size. Just bc he doesn't have high-end speed, does not mean it's going to be a problem at the next level. He was skating around people in the WJC. He's skating around people in the SHL. Couple that with his size, his hands and his overall coordination and it's a tantalizing package.
 
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TheFridge said:
That's simply not true. There's speed and power in his stride. He's a big kid and he skates really well for his size. Just bc he doesn't have high-end speed, does not mean it's going to be a problem at the next level. He was skating around people in the WJC. He's skating around people in the SHL. Couple that with his size, his hands and his overall coordination and it's a tantalizing package.
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People are too obsessed with speed right now in terms of scouting. You don't have to skate like McDavid or MacKinnon to be a top player. Look at Joe Pavelski. His longevity is based on the fact that his game has never been speed reliant.
 
Kaners Bald Spot said:
People are too obsessed with speed right now in terms of scouting. You don't have to skate like McDavid or MacKinnon to be a top player. Look at Joe Pavelski. His longevity is based on the fact that his game has never been speed reliant.
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It hink the now in NHL you need to be at least a AVG skater for your size. strome and Murph by example are negative skaters for there size. Which makes them need to be sheltered. also the speed of the game in the playoffs is faster then regular season.
 
kmwtrucks said:
It hink the now in NHL you need to be at least a AVG skater for your size. strome and Murph by example are negative skaters for there size. Which makes them need to be sheltered. also the speed of the game in the playoffs is faster then regular season.
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It matters but it seems like anything less than elite is seen as a huge red flag.
 
Kaners Bald Spot said:
People are too obsessed with speed right now in terms of scouting. You don't have to skate like McDavid or MacKinnon to be a top player. Look at Joe Pavelski. His longevity is based on the fact that his game has never been speed reliant.
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There are far more examples of players who would probably be really good if only they were better skaters.
 
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ChiefGonzo said:
Know this is probably useless conjecture, as are the prospect watch threads in the main boards, but how many would really pass on Michkov at #2?

He's going to come over, the way he's getting tossed around right now to sochi to get playing time is probably worthy to think of. Malkin had to basically seek asylum and lie to escape his country & contract... The kid has been deemed the next ovechkin for so incredibly long.

From the Athletic:

When Sport-Express in Russia asked him if his contract could impact his draft position, he responded: “When I signed the contract, I didn’t think about the draft, and now I don’t think about it either. It doesn’t matter to me. You need to show all the best that you can do and be useful to your team. This is more important.”​
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How is his loyalty tied to SKA now? You think he doesn't want to create his own legacy in the NHL? He would rather stay in Russia with the threat of nuclear footballs and all even if he was drafted by a world class city like Chicago (also connected by a Russian demographic)?

I hope the hawks don't end up drafting 2nd, because even though I like Fantilli, I would hate to know we got dicked down by a lottery system on bedard, and then have regret seeing Michkov years down the line perform at Bedard's pedigree(or better?) when we are *finally* coming out of the rebuild.
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He won't be the next Ovechkin due to size.

Ovi is "just a shooter" but he's also built like an ox and nobody f***s with him.

That's not the case with Mickov. That's not to say he's a pushover, but he's far from Ovechkin.

Not sure yet if he's worthy of 2nd overall, but he has looked better since the move to Sochi. More motivated now I think.

But if you're Kyle Davidson, that's a hard trigger to pull. You can't draft a kid and then after have him proclaim "Viva Putin". It's a PR nightmare.

I'm sure they'll do their homework on that front, but when you're picking that high there is more that goes into than pure talent alone. It's an investment for the franchise, and that player should represent you well.
 
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hawksfan50 said:
2023 is the Year Of The Rabbit ....Lucky numbers in year ofvtge Rabbit are 3,4and 6..
Therefore if Hawkscfibish lastvorc2nd lsst =forgetting...not goubg to get a top 2vpick and maybe notceven#3..


SOME need to temper our wishes for the Tank enough to let CBJ and ANH each be hit with bad luck and drop 1-2 spots each..but if we finish 3rd last,4th last or 6th last then we will be lucky in the lotto amd move up maybe to #1or #2...

YOU intuitively knew this about which finish spot is best for us...but this info
About the Chinese Year of The Rabbit and lucky numbers just confirms our intuition.
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The year of the rabbit, so why not draft Benson, whose nickname is "Benny"?
 
I remember a time from yesteryear when many of us posting on BHZ were pissed at the team and Tallon because the Hawks weren’t loosing enough and blew it by finishing 5th from the bottom in a 3 player draft.
Then someone noticed Bowman smiling at the public reveal. … and Patrick Kane was ours.
 
Interestingly out of the prospects mentioned: Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, and Michkov, Doneghey had nothing to say about Michkov.

Made it seem like Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson was his top 3, but that Michkov might not be in that conversation.

Unless he's being secretive on purpose, but Michkov is the only one he didn't gush about.
 
Kevin Musto said:
Interestingly out of the prospects mentioned: Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, and Michkov, Doneghey had nothing to say about Michkov.

Made it seem like Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson was his top 3, but that Michkov might not be in that conversation.

Unless he's being secretive on purpose, but Michkov is the only one he didn't gush about.
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Just have a feeling Will Smith will be the pick if they fall out of the top 3 and he’s available.
 
Styles said:
Just have a feeling Will Smith will be the pick if they fall out of the top 3 and he’s available.
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Doneghey will always heavily favour guys that play in the US. That's his domain. (the way he talked about Fantilli made him seem like #1!)

I wouldn't automatically assume that Smith would be the guy though.

I haven't really watched Oliver Moore yet but I've heard people say they like him a lot more. Even Ryan Leonard I've heard is a coach's dream.

I personally have to watch more of these three, but yeah I wouldn't default to Smith as being the guy right away.
 
Kevin Musto said:
That footage proves my point.

There's no speed there.

There's lots of space because it's the SHL, and he manipulates it because he's a good stickhandler and strong on the puck. Good edgework too.

I agree on him attacking the middle ice well, but he's not doing it using speed.
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I can agree that top speed is not Carlsson's strength. But, I do think he and Nazar would be a decent 1-2 punch if that's what the cards are. Personally, I see Malkin and Point with those two. If that was our 1-2 C, I think that would be ok?
 
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MicronMega said:
I can agree that top speed is not Carlsson's strength. But, I do think he and Nazar would be a decent 1-2 punch if that's what the cards are. Personally, I see Malkin and Point with those two. If that was our 1-2 C, I think that would be ok?
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Yeah I agree. I think that's a 1-2 punch you can build around.

I just don't know if Carlsson will become truly elite, but a top 6 player seems likely for him.
 
So the Hawks are 13-26-4 this season

Recently they went through a REALLY BAD stretch...2-21-0...

So that means they’ve played 11-5-4 half the season thus far? Really? Kind of Jeckal and Hyde stuff
 
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