HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[JeffreyLFC]

Seems like the new flavor of the week is... Zach Benson!

- First it was Smith vs. Benson
- Then after U18 it was Smith
- Then when it looked like Smith would not be available, it was Michkov rah rah rah
- When it looked like Michkov was a no-draft, it was Leonard
- Now it's back to Benson!

Of course we still have the rah rah rah about Michkov though...

Can't wait for the next bandwagon!

Dvorsky...

Would you guys trade 5, 31 and Guhle for pick 2/Fantilli?

Oui.

 

[Toene]

If he goes to Washington he probably plays there next season

How? With what cash does he buy out his last few seasons?

 

[Jabba11]

Sign me up with the BensonBoys! Been a fan since day 1.

*Only if Michkov is off the table though hahaha

 

[Expos94]

Would you guys trade 5, 31 and Guhle for pick 2/Fantilli?

Settle down lol ... Guhle is untouchable

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Would you guys trade 5, 31 and Guhle for pick 2/Fantilli?

I mean at some point this board needs to start talking about asset management again

 

[Jack Skellington]

How? With what cash does he buy out his last few seasons?

He would make multiple times the remainder of his KHL contract in the first year of his NHL ELC. But what I was actually getting at was that I don't think he would even have to. Ovechkin has a significant amount of sway in the Russian hockey community and I think SKA would let him come over.

 

[jaffy27]

Would you guys trade 5, 31 and Guhle for pick 2/Fantilli?

Never

 

[Toene]

He would make multiple times the remainder of his KHL contract in the first year of his NHL ELC. But what I was actually getting at was that I don't think he would even have to. Ovechkin has a significant amount of sway in the Russian hockey community and I think SKA would let him come over.

But he has to buy it out before he joins the NHL. And the NHL team can't be the one to take care of the bill. It has to come from his pockets.

 

[Jack Skellington]

But he has to buy it out before he joins the NHL. And the NHL team can't be the one to take care of the bill. It has to come from his pockets.

Not if SKA just releases him from his contract. Or Ovechkin makes a "personal gift" of the 600,000 usd or whatever it ends up being. Take out a loan and pay it back after your first signing bonus lol. There's a bunch of ways. He's been playing pro for a bit already and he will have huge endorsements.

 

[Gravity]

Even if Michkov is trying to pick his team how do we know that team isn't Montreal?

 

[jiboy]

Bradley Nadeau sounds quite intriguing.. could he be the big sleeper in that 1st round ?

 

[Jack Skellington]

Even if Michkov is trying to pick his team how do we know that team isn't Montreal?

Russians have seemed to like playing in MTL in the past. Ovi and Malkin have both said they would like to play there as well.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

I mean at some point this board needs to start talking about asset management again

it's getting out of control, the proposals I'm reading are some of the worst I've seen in almost 20 years on this board lol

this draft is clearly getting in everyone's head

 

[Toene]

it's getting out of control, the proposals I'm reading are some of the worst I've seen in almost 20 years on this board lol

We have a nice prospect pool and many young NHLers, I like the foundation already. This year, just draft the best player you can at 5 and call it a day. Don't galaxy-brain it. Just add quality to a good thing, instead of uselessly mixing it up for the sake of it.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Bradley Nadeau sounds quite intriguing.. could he be the big sleeper in that 1st round ?

In any other draft he would go 15th-20th. But yeah, he played in the BCHL and looks like a surefire NHLer.

 

[Kaladin]

You mean hockey playoffs aren't a skills competition? And the draft isn't a hockey pool?

I swear many here must not watch the NHL playoffs and have no idea how the game changes. We got our Michkov 15th overall in 2019.

I mean...I'll be totally fine if we do take him as I know Habs brass are doing their due diligence but he's nowhere close to Bedard and has some question marks. I can't get over how many are acting as if a small average skating one dimensional player that they haven't watched play in 18 months is a must draft at #5. If he was such a can't miss prospect, he'd be taken at #2.

Lol there's no such thing as having too many Michkov's. So even if I agreed that we "got our Michkov at 15th overall in 2019" it's a nonsensical reason to not draft Michkov this year. I love caufield but he isn't Michkov.

You will look back on these comments in a few years with a bit of embarassment is my prediction. Michkov will be a PPG player in the KHL as soon as next year is my prediction if he stays at Sochi.

 

[Mrb1p]

Would you guys trade 5, 31 and Guhle for pick 2/Fantilli?

Thats ridiculous. Guhles one of the best asset in the NHL, and tou want to add the 5th and 31st? ...

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Thats ridiculous. Guhles one of the best asset in the NHL, and tou want to add the 5th and 31st? ...

31st doesn’t have much value…

But I bet that’s the type of cost we’d have to pay to get the 2nd pick.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Craig Button

Carlsson = Backstrom
Leonard = Konecny
Smith = Zibanejad
Michkov = Messi

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Bradley Nadeau sounds quite intriguing.. could he be the big sleeper in that 1st round ?

I prefer him over Benson

 

[Schooner Guy]

Lol there's no such thing as having too many Michkov's. So even if I agreed that we "got our Michkov at 15th overall in 2019" it's a nonsensical reason to not draft Michkov this year. I love caufield but he isn't Michkov.

You will look back on these comments in a few years with a bit of embarassment is my prediction. Michkov will be a PPG player in the KHL as soon as next year is my prediction if he stays at Sochi.

NHL playoffs are nasty. There's no fighting in them anymore but the speed, physical punishment and battling for space are higher than ever. The physical Dmen can all skate now. The Leafs have several elite talents and finish near the top of the league every year but crumble every year in the playoffs.

There's no reason to "not draft Michkov". There are many reasons however to select another player in our early draft slot. Many of the reasons are not hockey related.

I always thought Michkov and Caufield were very similar. Several scouts of NHL teams are quoted as making the same comparison in the HP Black Book. That's not a knock on Michkov as Caufield is a perennial 40 goal scorer who has had terrific development trajectory since he was drafted.

 

[Mrb1p]

NHL playoffs are nasty. There's no fighting in them anymore but the speed, physical punishment and battling for space are higher than ever. The physical Dmen can all skate now. The Leafs have several elite talents and finish near the top of the league every year but crumble every year in the playoffs.

There's no reason to "not draft Michkov". There are many reasons however to select another player in our early draft slot. Many of the reasons are not hockey related.

I always thought Michkov and Caufield were very similar. Several scouts of NHL teams are quoted as making the same comparison in the HP Black Book. That's not a knock on Michkov as Caufield is a perennial 40 goal scorer who has had terrific development trajectory since he was drafted.

A guy smaller than Michkov just won the Conn Smythe, just stop it.

 

[Andrei79]

31st doesn’t have much value…

But I bet that’s the type of cost we’d have to pay to get the 2nd pick.

Then why even add it if there's already Guhle in the offer ?

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Then why even add it if there's already Guhle in the offer ?

You think Guhle and 5 alone would be enough for 2? I doubt many Ducks fans would think so…

 

[Andrei79]

You think Guhle and 5 alone would be enough for 2? I doubt many Ducks fans would think so…

And something without much value would make them tilt ?