HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[le_sean]

It's based on nothing? How about 99% of prospects need 2-3 more years from the time they are 17. It's so big of a trend that you can't even see it. "It's based on nothing" ...this is probably the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen written anywhere.

Slaf is also more NHL ready at the same age than Pasta, Gaudreau, Kucherov, Forsberg, Sakic, St-Louis, etc X 1000.

And Slafkovsky just turned 19. So how is he 3 years ahead of Dvorsky?

You know Dvorsky is 6’2 200lbs right? You think he’s not “physically” ready? He’s currently bigger than 80% of NHLers.

I’m not the one making a ridiculous argument. There’s a zero percent chance Dvorsky would be taken before Slafkovsky if they were in the same draft. Not a shot.

“Yes please give me the smaller, less talented player that only shows up against those smaller and younger than him”

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[TomKosto]

And Slafkovsky just turned 19. So how is he 3 years ahead of Dvorsky?

You know Dvorsky is 6’2 200lbs right? You think he’s not “physically” ready? He’s currently bigger than 80% of NHLers.

I’m not the one making a ridiculous argument. There’s a zero percent chance Dvorsky would be taken before Slafkovsky if they were in the same draft. Not a shot.

“Yes please give me the smaller, less talented player that only shows up against those smaller and younger than him”

There was nothing wrong with the Slaf pick, however starting him in the NHL at 18 after subpar number in Europe is an other story.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

And Slafkovsky just turned 19. So how is he 3 years ahead of Dvorsky?

You know Dvorsky is 6’2 200lbs right? You think he’s not “physically” ready? He’s currently bigger than 80% of NHLers.

I’m not the one making a ridiculous argument. There’s a zero percent chance Dvorsky would be taken before Slafkovsky if they were in the same draft. Not a shot.

“Yes please give me the smaller, less talented player that only shows up against those smaller and younger than him”

No need to be disrespecting Dvorsky as a prospect, dude was very much regarded as a top prospect for 2023 for years…

And the only really knock on Dvorsky was lack of great production in his league play against men. And guess what? Slaf didn’t light up his league either…

I do think Slafkovsky is a rarer player than Dvorsky, but Dvorsky is also a centerman. If you remember the draft threads from last year, many were wishing Dvorsky was the one eligible to be taken first overall in 2022.

 

[SlafySZN]

Great article about Leonard

2023 NHL DRAFT CLASS - RYAN LEONARD | Calgary Flames

U.S forward made it a goal of his to score 40 this year. He obliterated it

www.nhl.com

 

[Mrb1p]

SLafkwhocares

What a beauty

 

[SOLR]

And Slafkovsky just turned 19. So how is he 3 years ahead of Dvorsky?

You know Dvorsky is 6’2 200lbs right? You think he’s not “physically” ready? He’s currently bigger than 80% of NHLers.

I’m not the one making a ridiculous argument. There’s a zero percent chance Dvorsky would be taken before Slafkovsky if they were in the same draft. Not a shot.

“Yes please give me the smaller, less talented player that only shows up against those smaller and younger than him”

Slaf is 16 months ahead of Dvorsky, that's their age difference. And potentially another year because of genetic differences (puberty starting earlier etc.). It's not rocket science.

There's more to physical readiness than size and height. I'm not quite sure how to reply to that, it's so obviously, obvious. Slaf has been a pro athlete since he was 15, he's in the 1% of folks who got it in his code.

"Zero percent chance" that a 2-way center with size would be taken over a player who's never been a core player anywhere and when they played together Dvorsky was more important. "Zero percent chance". Your hyperboles are just that, hyperbolic.

I think there is a strong possibility Dvorksy would be picked ahead for his complete game and position. Moreover, if they had been in the same draft, Dvorsky wouldn't have played with a worse cast than Slaf in situations of ranking.

 

[McGees]

Great article about Leonard

2023 NHL DRAFT CLASS - RYAN LEONARD | Calgary Flames

U.S forward made it a goal of his to score 40 this year. He obliterated it

www.nhl.com

Leonard looks like he will ____________ and Smith looks like ______________

a) crash & bang
b) voted most likely to know how to tie a bowtie


I'm cool with picking either...or Reinbacher....or Benson....or Michy.....or even Dvorsky.
I am sure to not be disappointed lol.

 

[Michoulicious]

He has an ugly mullet and a weak stache.

DND for me.

 

[Andrei79]

Me really like Reinbacher.

I don't believe his skating couldn't at least get to Mark Stone levels which is why it doesn't concern me as much.

I just don't think there's anything Slaf does better than Wood aside from skating.

Write Barb a blank cheque and reap the rewards.


Sounds good.

Mark Stone is a 1 in 700 event.

Are you sure this is scouting, rather than a sheer leap of faith ?

I say this as someone who likes Wood, but how are you taking into account in your rankings that if he can't move at NHL speeds, he can't play in the NHL. It's a hard sell unless you can really bank on him improving his skating based on solid evidence.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

**Watched Bennett truck Slavin**

Let's draft Leonard

 

[SlafySZN]

**Watched Bennett truck Slavin**

Let's draft Leonard

Tkachuk just scored

Let’s draft Leonard

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Tkachuk just scored

Let’s draft Leonard

We can have both in 1 player.


Ahhh another high pick would have been great.

 

[Mrb1p]

Tkachuk just scored

Let’s draft Leonard

The only person that plays like Tkachuk in the top 20 is *drumroll* Tiny Benson.

 

[Andrei79]

We can have both in 1 player.


Ahhh another high pick would have been great.

Yeah, Tkachuk just had to ruin it for us. Imagine two top picks. I know this place has a fascination with small, slow, flashy busts, but there are guys like Moore, Leonard and Reinbacher I would have loved to add with a second pick. There are some interesting guys with speed, compete and skill available this year.

 

[Andrei79]

The only person that plays like Tkachuk in the top 20 is *drumroll* Tiny Benson.

It's so sad that the laugh reaction counts as a like on this site.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Ok, while you yahoo's can't get away from Tkachuk talk for like the 3 millionth time, Suzuki and Guhle are going to be at the draft. Also, Suzuki is down to bring Michkov to Montreal.

 

[le_sean]

Slaf is 16 months ahead of Dvorsky, that's their age difference. And potentially another year because of genetic differences (puberty starting earlier etc.). It's not rocket science.

There's more to physical readiness than size and height. I'm not quite sure how to reply to that, it's so obviously, obvious. Slaf has been a pro athlete since he was 15, he's in the 1% of folks who got it in his code.

"Zero percent chance" that a 2-way center with size would be taken over a player who's never been a core player anywhere and when they played together Dvorsky was more important. "Zero percent chance". Your hyperboles are just that, hyperbolic.

I think there is a strong possibility Dvorksy would be picked ahead for his complete game and position. Moreover, if they had been in the same draft, Dvorsky wouldn't have played with a worse cast than Slaf in situations of ranking.

Lol puberty starting earlier. You’re just full of insane shit now. You were there when both were 13? You had daily phone conversations and wrote down when their voices dropped? Please.

And yes, zero percent chance Dvorsky would get taken before Slafkovsky. Produced less in an inferior league and wasn’t even selected for men’s tournaments. Smaller, not a better skater. So he played centre, great. So did Wright and 3 teams wanted nothing to do with him and he was a far better prospect than Dvorsky.

 

[SOLR]

Lol puberty starting earlier. You’re just full of insane shit now. You were there when both were 13? You had daily phone conversations and wrote down when their voices dropped? Please.

And yes, zero percent chance Dvorsky would get taken before Slafkovsky. Produced less in an inferior league and wasn’t even selected for men’s tournaments. Smaller, not a better skater. So he played centre, great. So did Wright and 3 teams wanted nothing to do with him and he was a far better prospect than Dvorsky.

No... I was there when they were 15. You keep doing this thing where you push your ignorance on others. Stop it.

Making an argument with another player, is pretty awful, you can't rank him by analogy lol

 

[Schooner Guy]

Ok, while you yahoo's can't get away from Tkachuk talk for like the 3 millionth time, Suzuki and Guhle are going to be at the draft. Also, Suzuki is down to bring Michkov to Montreal.

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I can't get past Kaiden Guhle and Riley Heidt being brothers-in-law. How in the world is this possible?

 

[le_sean]

No... I was there when they were 15. You keep doing this thing where you push your ignorance on others. Stop it.

Making an argument with another player, is pretty awful, you can't rank him by analogy lol

So you think Seattle would trade Wright straight up for the pick that takes Dvorsky?

 

[Andrei79]

Ok, while you yahoo's can't get away from Tkachuk talk for like the 3 millionth time, Suzuki and Guhle are going to be at the draft. Also, Suzuki is down to bring Michkov to Montreal.

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There's never enough Tkachuk talk. Never.

Slaf is 16 months ahead of Dvorsky, that's their age difference. And potentially another year because of genetic differences (puberty starting earlier etc.). It's not rocket science.

There's more to physical readiness than size and height. I'm not quite sure how to reply to that, it's so obviously, obvious. Slaf has been a pro athlete since he was 15, he's in the 1% of folks who got it in his code.

"Zero percent chance" that a 2-way center with size would be taken over a player who's never been a core player anywhere and when they played together Dvorsky was more important. "Zero percent chance". Your hyperboles are just that, hyperbolic.

I think there is a strong possibility Dvorksy would be picked ahead for his complete game and position. Moreover, if they had been in the same draft, Dvorsky wouldn't have played with a worse cast than Slaf in situations of ranking.

Curiously, what's your offensive potential for him ? I know you've been watching him for quite a while.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Charlie Stramel with Florida's pick ?

 

[HabsForHire]

Great article about Leonard

2023 NHL DRAFT CLASS - RYAN LEONARD | Calgary Flames

U.S forward made it a goal of his to score 40 this year. He obliterated it

www.nhl.com

If smith is gone and michkov is a no draft for our management I want leonard. I get great vibes and feel he turns out a fantastic piece for this team. Underrated offensively too

 

[Schooner Guy]

Charlie Stramel with Florida's pick ?

I hope not. There are many players I would prefer who will be available at #32. A couple of the key Swedes from the silver medal U18 team should be available. Maybe 1-2 of the top goalies in the draft as well.

Our own 2nd round pick will be #37.