2023 NHL Draft June 28 and 29, Nashville, TN (Selections - 13, 39, 45, 86, 109, 141, 173, 205)

[Old Navy Goat]

Most of the games start at 6am for East Coast with the Dub at 9am, so I can watch the games then go and run errands etc in the afternoon.

 

[jc17]

Is there any concern that Barlow physical maturity will limit how the "power" component of his game translates to the next level?

 

[Ace]

Is there any concern that Barlow physical maturity will limit how the "power" component of his game translates to the next level?

That is the thing that worries me but it doesn’t seem to bother any draft analysts so I guess people think it will be fine.

I do wonder if it affects the chances we’d draft him though. They have liked risers and guys with a lot of room to grow. Barlow is seen as a safe pick because you pretty much know what you’re getting. But…he can really shoot it and they do love that. Plus…they don’t have much of what he does in the pipeline. So maybe the philosophy would shift to safer and style fit

 

[Fjordy]

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Is there any concern that Barlow physical maturity will limit how the "power" component of his game translates to the next level?

The hockey prospect guys don’t have any concern there, fwiw. Their logic tracks with me.

 

[RasmWristshotlainen]

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This would be funny as ever to hear rob say all these names

 

[Slangston]

I think some of the posters here should get used to the idea of Quentin Musty at 13. I think he's a VERY real possibility for the Sabres.

 

[Fjordy]

I think some of the posters here should get used to the idea of Quentin Musty at 13. I think he's a VERY real possibility for the Sabres.

Well, they can't pick him just because he's local. Although Musty is an interesting player, he just wouldn't be in my top at 13.

 

[Beerz]

I think some of the posters here should get used to the idea of Quentin Musty at 13. I think he's a VERY real possibility for the Sabres.

It would be very Adamsy

 

[Slangston]

Well, they can't pick him just because he's local. Although Musty is an interesting player, he just wouldn't be in my top at 13.

The local ties are a bonus, but that's not what I'm basing this off of. The Sabres draft philosophy under Adams places a greater emphasis on projectability and what players may be years down the road. Musty has all the tools and traits that you'd want in a modern top line power forward, it just hasn't all come together, yet. The kid is silly puddy as a hockey player. They've also publically stated that they value players that show massive growth/improvement throughout their draft year. Contrasting Musty's second half of the season with his first (starting with the Hlinka) -- it's like watching two different hockey players. His ceiling is sky high (top 5 in the draft high), but he does come with his some risk. Given the Sabres draft philosophy, where they stand organizationally (in terms of needs in the pipeline, rostered talent, etc.), and what's available in this draft...The Sabres can afford to go with an high upside pick and this kid's upside is higher than most.

 

[Fjordy]

The local ties are a bonus, but that's not what I'm basing this off of. The Sabres draft philosophy under Adams places a greater emphasis on projectability and what players may be years down the road. Musty has all the tools and traits that you'd want in a modern top line power forward, it just hasn't all come together, yet. The kid is silly puddy as a hockey player. They've also publically stated that they value players that show massive growth/improvement throughout their draft year. Contrasting Musty's second half of the season with his first (starting with the Hlinka) -- it's like watching two different hockey players. His ceiling is sky high (top 5 in the draft high), but he does come with his some risk. Given the Sabres draft philosophy, where they stand organizationally (in terms of needs in the pipeline, rostered talent, etc.), and what's available in this draft...The Sabres can afford to go with an high upside pick and this kid's upside is higher than most.

Well, it's possible, but I'm sure not only Musty had such a season. Still, I would have preferred another player at 13.

 

[HOOats]

The local ties are a bonus, but that's not what I'm basing this off of. The Sabres draft philosophy under Adams places a greater emphasis on projectability and what players may be years down the road. Musty has all the tools and traits that you'd want in a modern top line power forward, it just hasn't all come together, yet. The kid is silly puddy as a hockey player. They've also publically stated that they value players that show massive growth/improvement throughout their draft year. Contrasting Musty's second half of the season with his first (starting with the Hlinka) -- it's like watching two different hockey players. His ceiling is sky high (top 5 in the draft high), but he does come with his some risk. Given the Sabres draft philosophy, where they stand organizationally (in terms of needs in the pipeline, rostered talent, etc.), and what's available in this draft...The Sabres can afford to go with an high upside pick and this kid's upside is higher than most.

You laid it out well. It's Musty over Barlow for me for these exact reasons.

 

[Slangston]

Well, it's possible, but I'm sure not only Musty had such a season. Still, I would have preferred another player at 13.

Understood. For the sake of discussion, who do you like at 13?

 

[Fjordy]

Understood. For the sake of discussion, who do you like at 13?

Simashev

Moore

Willander

Benson (if fall)

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Simashev

Moore

Willander

Benson (if fall)

I want nothing to do with Benson at 13. We have Rosen, Poltapov, Neuchev, Kisakov and Kulich as small wingers competing for a spot. I don’t care about his chemistry with Savoie, because I don’t want two small people on a line.

I’d rather they draft ASP over Benson, and I hate ASP.

 

[BuffaloGooner]

I want nothing to do with Benson at 13. We have Rosen, Poltapov, Neuchev, Kisakov and Kulich as small wingers competing for a spot. I don’t care about his chemistry with Savoie, because I don’t want two small people on a line.

I’d rather they draft ASP over Benson, and I hate ASP.

It’s highly unlikely all of those players work out and as it stands as constructed, the current Sabres are not even small.

 

[Slangston]

Simashev

Moore

Willander

Benson (if fall)

I like it.

Simashev is another toolsy upside pick, much like Musty, but on defense of course. I've noticed the love he's getting around here and I find it intriguing. Definitely a tantalizing prospect with his size and skating ability.

Moore I'm not sold on being anything more than a utility 3rd liner. I have questions about his vision and IQ. His skating alone, however, will get him into the league one day. What are your thoughts on him?

Willander is my fave here. Can really do it all and fits an organizational need. He also fits the profile of what the Sabres look for in a draft eligible -- That being a player that has shown tremendous growth throughout the season. Has surpassed Axel Sandin-Pellika in my book.

My thoughts on Benson will sound like heresy around here so I'd rather keep them to myself.

I want nothing to do with Benson at 13. We have Rosen, Poltapov, Neuchev, Kisakov and Kulich as small wingers competing for a spot. I don’t care about his chemistry with Savoie, because I don’t want two small people on a line.

I’d rather they draft ASP over Benson, and I hate ASP.

I'm with you. I will add that although Poltapov is smaller, he plays with a lot of power. I think he'll make the show and become an excellent middle 6 player for the Sabres.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

It’s highly unlikely all of those players work out and as it stands as constructed, the current Sabres are not even small.

I know that. But the thing is I don’t want to add another “more of the same” to the mix. And by small, it includes people that play like (William) Nylander.

I consider them to be both great skaters and equivalent of the ability to do that, but at this point give me Tom Wilson 2.0 to the mix over Willy 2.0.

I like it.

Simashev is another toolsy upside pick, much like Musty, but on defense of course. I've noticed the love he's getting around here and I find it intriguing. Definitely a tantalizing prospect with his size and skating ability.

Moore I'm not sold on being anything more than a utility 3rd liner. I have questions about his vision and IQ. His skating alone, however, will get him into the league one day. What are your thoughts on him?

Willander is my fave here. Can really do it all and fits an organizational need. He also fits the profile of what the Sabres look for in a draft eligible -- That being a player that has shown tremendous growth throughout the season. Has surpassed Axel Sandin-Pellika in my book.

My thoughts on Benson will sound like heresy around here so I'd rather keep them to myself.


I'm with you. I will add that although Poltapov is smaller, he plays with a lot of power. I think he'll make the show and become an excellent middle 6 player for the Sabres.

I like Poltapov and feel that way about him too. If anything I see him as being able to “change” his game the most to make the show. Basically a better version of Moose (Cederqvist) but smaller.

 

[Ace]

I’ve made my peace with Musty already. I don’t think it’s crazy that they’d do it…and I don’t think it’s crazy that he’d be high on their list. Guys with playmaking ability that can have a power element to their game are rare and intriguing

 

[Old Navy Goat]

I don't hate Musty but I'm not enamored with him at 13. I know he was much better after the coaching change, as was the rest of the team. My issue is he likes to take shifts and sometimes entire games off, he's quite similar to Geekie last year in that regard.

In the 13 slot I'd rather go with Danielson or swing for the fences with Honzek. None of the D really do it for me as i don't see any great separation from what's available in the 2nd

 

[Fjordy]

I want nothing to do with Benson at 13. We have Rosen, Poltapov, Neuchev, Kisakov and Kulich as small wingers competing for a spot. I don’t care about his chemistry with Savoie, because I don’t want two small people on a line.

I’d rather they draft ASP over Benson, and I hate ASP.

Strongly disagree. Benson is a very talented and hardworking player and we are not a small team. Chemistry with Savoie has nothing to do with it at all. Even if we didn't have Savoie, I would still choose Benson.

I like it.

Simashev is another toolsy upside pick, much like Musty, but on defense of course. I've noticed the love he's getting around here and I find it intriguing. Definitely a tantalizing prospect with his size and skating ability.

Moore I'm not sold on being anything more than a utility 3rd liner. I have questions about his vision and IQ. His skating alone, however, will get him into the league one day. What are your thoughts on him?

Willander is my fave here. Can really do it all and fits an organizational need. He also fits the profile of what the Sabres look for in a draft eligible -- That being a player that has shown tremendous growth throughout the season. Has surpassed Axel Sandin-Pellika in my book.

My thoughts on Benson will sound like heresy around here so I'd rather keep them to myself.

Yeap, Simashev is my favorite. Skating, size, hands, high defensive IQ and still have untapped potential in attack.

I like Moore, his skating, speed, level of competition, shoot, such a player is always useful off the puck, leader, good work ethic. Even if he doesn't have a very high ceiling, I think he could still be a decent 2nd laner or great 3C.

Willander good, but I like Simashev a little more. Either way, I'll be fine with Willander.

I would also add Wood to my list here, I like him and skating for me is not a stop sign that he can improve.

 

[Ace]

Benson is smarter, works harder and is a better two way player than any of the guys people would want because they’re three inches taller.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Benson is smarter, works harder and is a better two way player than any of the guys people would want because they’re three inches taller.

I completely agree with the guy that said Detroit and Ottawa will leave us in the dust this past year because they’re further along in their rebuild

Strongly disagree. Benson is a very talented and hardworking player and we are not a small team. Chemistry with Savoie has nothing to do with it at all. Even if we didn't have Savoie, I would still choose Benson.

Yeap, Simashev is my favorite. Skating, size, hands, high defensive IQ and still have untapped potential in attack.

I like Moore, his skating, speed, level of competition, shoot, such a player is always useful off the puck, leader, good work ethic. Even if he doesn't have a very high ceiling, I think he could still be a decent 2nd laner or great 3C.

Willander good, but I like Simashev a little more. Either way, I'll be fine with Willander.

I would also add Wood to my list here, I like him and skating for me is not a stop sign that he can improve.

Benson is a younger version of Olofsson. He’s the definition of “meh”.

 

[Fjordy]

Benson is a younger version of Olofsson. He’s the definition of “meh”.

Hmm what? How are these two players even comparable? They don't look alike.

 

[Irie]

It would be very Adamsy

I can't help but feel Yager is the prototypical Adams draftpick when I look at who is likely available at 13, but still would not be too big of a reach (McKenzie has him at 15).

I am hoping there is not a specific type of player they target and that the homogeneous trend has just been a coincidence, but the evidence is starting to make coincidence seem unlikely.