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WolfHouse

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He's got all the qualities you look for in a top 6 C. Speed, size, skill, faceoff ability, physicality. No one is slotting him in anywhere but what can it hurt giving him an audition? Kids never gonna thrive with checkers, it's not his game. We might as well just send him back to Finland now if we never plan on giving him a shot.

What you scared of Wolf? Got a bet on the kid never playing higher than bottom 6?
I remember the same storyline with Apples making up to our top line and then we realized he's a 3rd liner at best... I have high hopes for everyone - Barron, Kupari, etc... but honestly I'd give Barron a shot before Kup or Perfetti

Like I said Kupari can have a shot in 2024 or 2025... that's a massive trade win if he grabs it
 

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Just summarizing the Jets' new forwards acquired since the TDL, in terms of xGAR (2022/23):

Vilardi 17.3
Niederreiter 13.6
Iafallo 9.7
Namestnikov 2.8
Kupari 0.4

As a reference, the top 5 Jets forwards last season:

Scheifele 20.3
Ehlers 9.0
Dubois 8.8
Connor 6.5
Jonsson-Fjallby 4.4

So, that's a pretty significant upgrade in the Jets' forwards over the past few months.
 

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Just summarizing the Jets' new forwards acquired since the TDL, in terms of xGAR (2022/23):

Vilardi 17.3
Niederreiter 13.6
Iafallo 9.7
Namestnikov 2.8
Kupari 0.4

As a reference, the top 5 Jets forwards last season:

Scheifele 20.3
Ehlers 9.0
Dubois 8.8
Connor 6.5
Jonsson-Fjallby 4.4

So, that's a pretty significant upgrade in the Jets' forwards over the past few months.

I think we have a deeper team than we had last year up front and one that is likely a bit better on the defensive side of things. We just have a hole at 2C that has a lot of question marks,

If we can find a 2C among our group of young forwards next year then I think we are looking pretty good. We could still use another top 4RHD but that is unlikely to come anytime soon.

IF we move Scheif and Helle then we will have even more holes to backfill.
 

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I think we have a deeper team than we had last year up front and one that is likely a bit better on the defensive side of things. We just have a hole at 2C that has a lot of question marks,

If we can find a 2C among our group of young forwards next year then I think we are looking pretty good. We could still use another top 4RHD but that is unlikely to come anytime soon.

IF we move Scheif and Helle then we will have even more holes to backfill.
Agree.

If Scheifele is gone without a good replacement, that is a huge gap down the centre.

If he's with the team, I think that Vilardi and/or Perfetti would be fine, considering the strength of wingers the Jets have.

Problem with Bowness is that he usually starts his thinking about C deployment based on face-off performance. He's very old-school in that regard.
 

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Agree.

If Scheifele is gone without a good replacement, that is a huge gap down the centre.

If he's with the team, I think that Vilardi and/or Perfetti would be fine, considering the strength of wingers the Jets have.

Problem with Bowness is that he usually starts his thinking about C deployment based on face-off performance. He's very old-school in that regard.

I think faceoffs are generally heavily underestimated by some and overestimated by others. They are important to an extent but there are ways you can mitigate losing them by being better in other areas.

Bones is likely going to try quite a few guys in that area with Perfetti getting the nod early on. Best we can hope for is Perfetti is ready but his game seems to lend itself more to being a winger at this level so we shall see.
 

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LOL… what the?
I knew there would be at least one comment like this from someone not able to comprehend a balanced top 3 lines.
We'd be following Vegas and their 3 balanced lines. Not one 30 goal scorer or 70 point player.
I'd say this would create the most problems for opposition teams.
 
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The team is looking good and as a fan I’m excited to give some of the young guys a shot. I hope they start with:

KFC Villardi Ehlers
Iaofello Lowry Nino
Barron Perfetti Scheif
Gus names Kupari
Apples

See if V can be the defensive conscious and make the move to C.

Lowry line will play the second most minutes and with those two wingers will be absolutely no fun to play against.

Keep 55 shifted to the wing and let Perfetti ease in on the third line that should feast on their matchups.

4th line PK guys that should get a regular shift.

I know many have suggested we move Dillon but from a fighting perspective I don’t think we can as then Lowry has to handle the load by himself. Schmidt, Stanley, Pionk, Capo or maybe DeMelo if the price was right. Probably need to move 2 from that list imo.

We’ve got so many exciting guys coming up front too and I like the goalie pipeline now as well. Top pair rhd of the future still feels like the area we need to address as I think Bauer takes over the 3RHD spot when Dillon is gone. Hope that one of Chisholm, Sal, Lund or even Heinola on his off side can be 2nd pair calibre. Let’s call up Columbus and see what their plan is for all their rhd…
 

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The team is looking good and as a fan I’m excited to give some of the young guys a shot. I hope they start with:

KFC Villardi Ehlers
Iaofello Lowry Nino
Barron Perfetti Scheif
Gus names Kupari
Apples

See if V can be the defensive conscious and make the move to C.

Lowry line will play the second most minutes and with those two wingers will be absolutely no fun to play against.

Keep 55 shifted to the wing and let Perfetti ease in on the third line that should feast on their matchups.

4th line PK guys that should get a regular shift.

I know many have suggested we move Dillon but from a fighting perspective I don’t think we can as then Lowry has to handle the load by himself. Schmidt, Stanley, Pionk, Capo or maybe DeMelo if the price was right. Probably need to move 2 from that list imo.

We’ve got so many exciting guys coming up front too and I like the goalie pipeline now as well. Top pair rhd of the future still feels like the area we need to address as I think Bauer takes over the 3RHD spot when Dillon is gone. Hope that one of Chisholm, Sal, Lund or even Heinola on his off side can be 2nd pair calibre. Let’s call up Columbus and see what their plan is for all their rhd…
It'd cost a lot but I'd love to add Sanderson on the right side.
 
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I like the Kupari addition, looking at a guy who won 54.6% of his draws last year, I think he slots nicely into the 4C spot, and takes on the PK1 role that Stenlund had last year, protecting Adam Lowry on weak side draws, with much better wheels in the postion.

I'd like to see Connor-Scheifele-Perfetti as the big dogs, a line capable of 90 goals easy.

2nd line probably Ehlers-Vilardi-Niedrreiter, two guys to do heavy lifting, making Ehlers more effective as the high forward in the offensive zone. Mostly offensive zone deployment, so faceoffs aren't that big of a deal.

Checking line I've got Iafallo-Lowry-Appleton, I think Iafallo adds scoring from that role. Lowry and Apples play a pretty good shut down game. Probably get the same defensive responsibility as last year.

4th line for me is Barron-Kupari-Namestnikov, a good skating line, with a little bit of edge.

Gustafsson as the 13th forward.

Much more aligned toward being 4 strong lines, and not having players have to punch above their weight class, with guys like Appleton and Stenlund playing top 6 roles at times last year, when the injury bell tolled.

Now the defense, looks like nothing is going to change.

That can't make anyone too happy...but maybe a better 5 player system, with a litte bit more chemistry after some time together improves the team marginally. Without adding Heinola seems like the team has probably hit their watermark for goals from defensemen. Dillon and Schmidt won't get any faster with another year under their belt.

That's my summer 2 cents...enjoy the offseason.
 

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was looking at Jets GF vs xGF through the years. our finishing-depth has really tanked last couple years and had been slipping downward before that. should we expect as proficient as our Laine years. or 17-18 as a season? probably not, but certainly has to be better than the last couple.

looking at the past 2 seasons in quarters, they've been above-average in all-strengths gf/60 1x. 2x at average (16th)

22-23 gm 21-40 per 60 - they were 10th in GF and 11th in GF vs xGF. this is when scheifele & kc really got on their tear for the stretch of games scoring 24 of the Jets 69 (nice) goals and accounting for 8.97 GF vs xGF (rest of team was at -4.2)

when they got Nino+Names. at the TDL so gm 60ish onward - they were 22nd in GF and 28 in GF vs xGF. gm 41-60 this year they we brutal at finishing their chances (scheifele maintained some level of competency though).

but overall it'll be interesting to compare now w/ a full year the additions of nino, names, iafallo and vilardi. however are losing PLD and Wheeler too. Bowness-led teams in recent history usually aren't the greatest finishers.... is that players on hand? something he's saying/telling them to do? who knows. but perhaps another variable to be wary of.
 
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was looking at Jets GF vs xGF through the years. our finishing-depth has really tanked last couple years and had been slipping downward before that. should we expect as proficient as our Laine years. or 17-18 as a season? probably not, but certainly has to be better than the last couple.

looking at the past 2 seasons in quarters, they've been above-average in all-strengths gf/60 1x. 2x at average (16th)

22-23 gm 21-40 per 60 - they were 10th in GF and 11th in GF vs xGF. this is when scheifele & kc really got on their tear for the stretch of games scoring 24 of the Jets 69 (nice) goals and accounting for 8.97 GF vs xGF (rest of team was at -4.2)

when they got Nino+Names. at the TDL so gm 60ish onward - they were 22nd in GF and 28 in GF vs xGF. gm 41-60 this year they we brutal at finishing their chances (scheifele maintained some level of competency though).

but overall it'll be interesting to compare now w/ a full year the additions of nino, names, iafallo and vilardi. however are losing PLD and Wheeler too. Bowness-led teams in recent history usually aren't the greatest finishers.... is that players on hand? something he's saying/telling them to do? who knows. but perhaps another variable to be wary of.
Im very excited for this season if the team buys in and plays for dirty goals/gets to the front of the net... I think our finishing is really affected by the Jets tendency to watch their passes and to overpass - we still shoot but maybe it seems its after one pass too many...

Jomo, DeMelo and our bottom six scoring is key to this season... I just want Bones to find a lineup and stick with it though - he tinkered his way out of a solid bottom six last year.
 
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Iafallo Scheifele Vilardi
Connor Perfetti Kupari
Nino Names Ehlers
Barron Lowry Apples/Goon

3 scoring lines plus your defensively responsible 4th who would be my checking line against the other teams best most nights except against Minnesota and those types when I'd unleash the goon
 

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Iafallo Scheifele Vilardi
Connor Perfetti Kupari
Nino Names Ehlers
Barron Lowry Apples/Goon

3 scoring lines plus your defensively responsible 4th who would be my checking line against the other teams best most nights except against Minnesota and those types when I'd unleash the goon
If you switched Perfetti with Vilardi, that could be my starting lineup.
 

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Not sure why ppl want perfetti to play wing honestly. He's a playmaker, he's a defensively responsible playmaker, put KC on the left and a big dude who will go get pucks on the right... it's money

Make it easier on guys, not harder, iafallo Is a left shot, Vilardi a right. They just need a center. There's 55.

U trade 55? Ok well, then we see.
 
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Not sure why ppl want perfetti to play wing honestly. He's a playmaker, he's a defensively responsible playmaker, put KC on the left and a big dude who will go get pucks on the right... it's money

Make it easier on guys, not harder, iafallo Is a left shot, Vilardi a right. They just need a center. There's 55.

U trade 55? Ok well, then we see.

I agree with this big time.

Iafallo-Scheifele-Valardi
Connor-Perfetti-Nino
Names-Lowry-Ehlers

Three balanced lines that will be solid defensively and can score. If you get behind, switch Ehlers and Iafallo.
 

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I like what you guys are putting down.

Iafallo-Scheifele-Vilardi
Connor-Perfetti-Nino
Names-Kupari-Ehlers
Barron-Lowry-Appleton

JMo-Demelo
Dillon-Schmidt
Samberg-Pionk
 
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Ok here are some ideas:

Traditional org approach (Top 6 vs. Bottom 6):

Nino Scheifele Ehlers
Connor Perfetti Vilardi
Iafallo Lowry Namestnikov
Barron Kupri Appelton

JoMo DeMelo
Snerg Pionk
Dillion Schmidt

Helle
Broasoit

Pittsburgh Penguin 2015-17 model

Iafallo Scheifele Vilardi
Conner Perfetti Kupri
Ehlers Namestnikov Nino
Barron Lowry Appelron

There are rumors that we are in on Tatar. That would really give us the pieces for three scoring lines.

Tatar Scheifele Vilardi
Conner Perfetti Iafallo
Ehlers Namestnikov Nino
Barron/Kupri Lowry Appelton/Kupri
 
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Not sure why ppl want perfetti to play wing honestly. He's a playmaker, he's a defensively responsible playmaker, put KC on the left and a big dude who will go get pucks on the right... it's money

Make it easier on guys, not harder, iafallo Is a left shot, Vilardi a right. They just need a center. There's 55.

U trade 55? Ok well, then we see.

Assuming we get 1 more year of Scheifele I think it is important to push Vilardi at 2C this year. He is 3 years older than Perfetti and if he is ever going to become a C it needs to start. We will need both of them at C the year after when Scheifele is gone.
 
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Perfetti Scheifele Nino
Conner Vilardi Kupri
Iafallo Namestnikov Ehlers
Barron Lowry Apples

Perfetti at center...
Nino Scheif Vilardi
KFC Perfetti Iafallo
Ehlers Names Kup
Barron Lowry Apples


JMo DD
Sammy Schmidt
Dillon Pionk

Helle Bro
 

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Perfetti Scheifele Nino
Conner Vilardi Kupri
Iafallo Namestnikov Ehlers
Barron Lowry Apples

Perfetti at center...
Nino Scheif Vilardi
KFC Perfetti Iafallo
Ehlers Names Kup
Barron Lowry Apples


JMo DD
Sammy Schmidt
Dillon Pionk

Helle Bro
People will be annoyed by this as they already think Ehlers doesn’t get enough minutes without being bumped to 3rd line.
 

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People will be annoyed by this as they already think Ehlers doesn’t get enough minutes without being bumped to 3rd line.
1st line 18 minutes.
2nd line 16 minutes.
3rd line 16 minutes.
4th line 10 minutes.

3rd and 4th line could be dominant.
 

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Here's my random guess:

Ehlers Scheifele Nino
Connor Perfetti Vilardi
Barron Lowry Iafallo
Namestnikov Kupari Appleton
Gustafson

Morrissey Demelo
Samberg Pionk
Dillon Schmidt
 

DRW204

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Here's my random guess:

Ehlers Scheifele Nino
Connor Perfetti Vilardi
Barron Lowry Iafallo
Namestnikov Kupari Appleton
Gustafson

Morrissey Demelo
Samberg Pionk
Dillon Schmidt
I hope samberg gets some reps in the top 4. Just hope not next to pionk :laugh:

I do wonder if he will though. Idk if ppl bought or beleive the that the Jets were in on Sanheim however seems like they were wanting to bring in another top-4 LD, although can both play sides.

I think the defense group will likely be the same as it was last season. I hope samberg-schmidt do get used higher up the depth chart, and in TOI though
 
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I'd run this to start the season...

Connor Vilardi Scheif
Ehlers Names Nino
Iafallo Perfetti Apples
Barron Lowry Kupari

JoMo DeMelo
Dillon Samberg
Schmidt Pionk

You are now sheltering $12 million worth of D but salary 'shouldn't' be a factor on your roster.. but I expect it will be.
 

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