Why wait for a player to hit waivers when you can pay a 2nd to aquire them right before they’re waived?
2023 Interesting Potential Waiver Claims
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biturbo19
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That's definitely from way back, as a draft profile of what he "might become". Rather than what he's actually become.
That said...describing him as a "small, average skating defensive defender" somehow feels overly harsh. Even though it's technically pretty true. It still conjures the image of a different player than JBD is.
He's a little bit below average size, but i don't know that i'd outright call him "small". He's close enough to hovering around that average that it's not like a "small" that is a standout quality. Sort of the same with his skating. It is very average. But it's not a a real liability.
He's just a very unremarkable, very "medium" player without any particular standout traits. Doesn't really have that obvious glaring "fatal flaw" the other way either though.
I think there's at least a shred of reason to believe that might be serviceable with Hughes. Biggest thing you need there is to..."not mess up too badly". That's more or less the bar we've got set there.
The Sens must have a stacked lineup, or maybe mediocre scouting. But whatever it is, they placed two former first round draft picks on waivers this week. Lassi Thompson (claimed by Anaheim) and now Jacob Bernard Docker, who might be claimed only because he was once drafted so highly.
And I know one thing.....if it was the Canucks shedding former first round picks via the waiver wire, this Board would be going ballistic.
And I know one thing.....if it was the Canucks shedding former first round picks via the waiver wire, this Board would be going ballistic.
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They were both drafted 4-5 years ago and were taken late in the first. It's basically like the Canucks dumping Juolevi when they did and he was a top 5 pick. Nobody went ballistic because at that point it was clear he was busting.
It happens all over the place.. shiny toy, even good teams fans
And he hasnt been able to show that with who ottawa has iced?
That's definitely from way back, as a draft profile of what he "might become". Rather than what he's actually become.
That said...describing him as a "small, average skating defensive defender" somehow feels overly harsh. Even though it's technically pretty true. It still conjures the image of a different player than JBD is.
He's a little bit below average size, but i don't know that i'd outright call him "small". He's close enough to hovering around that average that it's not like a "small" that is a standout quality. Sort of the same with his skating. It is very average. But it's not a a real liability.
He's just a very unremarkable, very "medium" player without any particular standout traits. Doesn't really have that obvious glaring "fatal flaw" the other way either though.
I think there's at least a shred of reason to believe that might be serviceable with Hughes. Biggest thing you need there is to..."not mess up too badly". That's more or less the bar we've got set there.
Agreed. He's Woo's height (very slightly taller) and isn't Hirose slim. He lacks ideal size but close enough. I like him and would give him a chance. Defensive Dmen without standout NHL traits can be underappreciated.
I've said this before but a poster or two keeps repeating the same misinformation. It was Gillis who liked to save room for late camp acquisitions. Benning tended to pick up veteran players off waivers later in the season more or less as injury fill-ins/improve the roster.
No you don't... they are contract slots, and you have to waive the chance of hitting on one of them vs hitting on college UFA's or any number of ways of making your club better that you need a contract slot for.
This isn't to say we shouldn't try for some, just it shouldn't be lets grab all these guys from waivers.
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That contract was a big risk for a fringe player. If you get the evaluation wrong, you're paying $2 million for an AHLer over the next two years.
The guys who have been claimed are all on two-way deals so low-risk, plus Harkins who has a lot of NHL experience and 1 year on a 1-way so a pretty safe bet.
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Once you are gone from the team that drafted you or there is a regime change, your draft position means nothing. All about whether you can play or not.
Does anyone know why we didn't put a claim on Ty Smith? Isn't he at least worth a shot, given our poor depth?
I clearly remember back in 2021, a Devils fan said in a trade thread that he would not trade Ty Smith straight up for QH. Kind of stuck with me because even back then, it was an unforgettable hot take.
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could be a contract for contract situation and the player who cleared waivers would then remain in the A. Give a couple of guys a fresh start.
Lol. Big risk? You always like to make a big deal out of these small things.
JBD was a former high pick RHD that was tracking well. He played well enough to put himself in a position where he was expected to make the team. Even if you disagree, he was highly regarded by his coach in the AHL so he's at least valuable depth. Could they have squeezed him? Sure. Maybe they gave him that contract on purpose to decrease the risk of him being claimed should he hit waivers?
Huh?
Teams have budgets and they don't want to get stuck paying a guy $1 million to play in the AHL unnecessarily. That is not an attractive contract for a fringe waiver-claim level player who scored 6 points in the AHL last year.
