Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

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2003 was bonkers. Best draft ever.
The quality of the result must be impacted by the extra development time those guys had in the AHL due to NHL lockout.
2003 was really good but multiple guys who flopped in the 1st. Plus guys like Jessiman who flopped super hard. Mark my words, in '23 there won't be a single guy who flops that hard, let alone multiple.
 

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Ranked 29 in Bob’s mid-season rankings, Kasper had two goals today as the Fins beat Šalé and the Czechs. If he goes late first, some team is going to be very happy with this beauty.
 
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Ranked 29 in Bob’s mid-season rankings, Kasper had two goals today as the Fins beat Šalé and the Czechs. If he goes late first, some team is going to be very happy with this beauty.

His Liiga production is garbage. Is that a factor of his usage or just a reflection of where he's at in his development?
 

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Are we thinking Carlsson is a wing? He looks like a pretty complete center to me. Swedish Adam Fantilli
 

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Would Rantanen be a good comparable for Carlsson?
I think so. Carlsson has a ways to go defensively first. But I think that big but not necessary mean, but assertive and extremely smooth and talented winger thing applies.

Are we thinking Carlsson is a wing? He looks like a pretty complete center to me. Swedish Adam Fantilli
He hasn’t played center other than short stints here and there for 2-3 years. This isn’t a Cutter Gauthier situation where he’s 50/50 and plays C whenever another guy is out and automatically is the first guy in when needed. It’s much more a Slafkovsky thing where he played C at very young ages but not foe years prior to draf t
 
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Everyone reiterates that he's a C, but like you said, he hasn't played C a ton, so it does raise suspicion about his viability in that position and he is just a big winger, he's less valuable.
 

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He's good on faceoffs and has a good understanding and positional awareness to play C. There's no reason he shouldn't be. Everyone in that league and developmental track doesn't play C, it's not a big deal. Carlsson projects as a center still, 100%.

His Liiga production is garbage. Is that a factor of his usage or just a reflection of where he's at in his development?
Usage. Team sucks. He hasn't made a ton of strides like others but he's still pretty good for where he's at. Could have probably used more time dominating this year but they chose to move him up instead.
 

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He's good on faceoffs and has a good understanding and positional awareness to play C. There's no reason he shouldn't be. Everyone in that league and developmental track doesn't play C, it's not a big deal. Carlsson projects as a center still, 100%.


Usage. Team sucks. He hasn't made a ton of strides like others but he's still pretty good for where he's at. Could have probably used more time dominating this year but they chose to move him up instead.
Except he hasn’t played C at international tournaments (u18 & u20), either. And not in the J20 from what I understand. But he’s always playing up multiple levels and age groups so it makes sense. But it also doesn’t make him a center. I get why he’s played wing for the last few years. But the fact is, he’s played wing the last few years. Maybe it doesn’t matter but it seems like it would.

It’s hard enough for kids who play center their entire junior/minor-pro career to stick at that position in the NHL. Seems like getting such a late start would make it extra tough.

I do agree he’s got the look of a center out there.

Everyone reiterates that he's a C, but like you said, he hasn't played C a ton, so it does raise suspicion about his viability in that position and he is just a big winger, he's less valuable.
My top five includes Bedard, Fantilli, Benson, Carlsson and Michkov. It’s pretty likely there’s only one center in there, and four wingers.

It’s good we doubled up on Cs in the top ten last draft.
 

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Except he hasn’t played C at international tournaments (u18 & u20), either. And not in the J20 from what I understand. But he’s always playing up multiple levels and age groups so it makes sense. But it also doesn’t make him a center. I get why he’s played wing for the last few years. But the fact is, he’s played wing the last few years. Maybe it doesn’t matter but it seems like it would.

It’s hard enough for kids who play center their entire junior/minor-pro career to stick at that position in the NHL. Seems like getting such a late start would make it extra tough.

I do agree he’s got the look of a center out there.
EP, Zibanejad, Lindholm, Hertl. All of these guys took the same route Carlsson has and all of them are centers. Carlsson played center last year in J20 a lot, even though he's been a wing in the SHL and at WJC. Although he has played center in the SHL for shifts. He's just a natural center. Guy plays like a center, even if he's not a center. There are times where defensively he'll act like a wing and cover the points but...that kind of just shows to me that he's thinking the game like a center anyways. Ultimately, it's up to the coaches, so he could be put on the wing for sure depending on who drafts him. But the kid wants to play center, does well playing center, compares himself to centers...he has the frame and tools and IQ to play as a center...he can't help that his coach in the SHL won't play anyone at center who's young, that's just how it is in Swedish hockey and has been for years. Go look at the U20 WJC Swedish rosters and find me a young kid who played C on the team instead of wing.

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I really liked this article about him, although I have no idea who the guy is. But I pretty much agree with everything he's saying.
 

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EP, Zibanejad, Lindholm, Hertl. All of these guys took the same route Carlsson has and all of them are centers.
True. Those guys all had a long and winding road to centership.
Carlsson played center last year in J20 a lot, even though he's been a wing in the SHL and at WJC.
I’ve read that’s not the case. I’ll try to find it.
Although he has played center in the SHL for shifts. He's just a natural center. Guy plays like a center, even if he's not a center.
Agreed.
Ultimately, it's up to the coaches, so he could be put on the wing for sure depending on who drafts him...he has the frame and tools and IQ to play as a center...he can't help that his coach in the SHL won't play anyone at center who's young...
I agree with those pieces. Which are your main points.

I’m 50/50 on him being a C. Same with Bedard.
 

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What are peoples thoughts on David Reinbacher? Looks to be the first D off the board and has good size and skating. Would love for him to be the main piece in a chych trade if we get a draft pick from someone like buffalo.
 

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What are peoples thoughts on David Reinbacher? Looks to be the first D off the board and has good size and skating. Would love for him to be the main piece in a chych trade if we get a draft pick from someone like buffalo.
Great prospect. The top D prospect this year for sure. If he was a little taller or a little more dynamic or a little more aggressive I bet there would be way more hype. He's just perfectly well rounded.

I think Bill will be VERY interested. Hopefully we don't pass over a Michkov/Benson dynamo for him.

There's little to no chance we can trade up high enough with our next picks to get Reinbacher.
 

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Me and RT are in agreement I think, that Dragicevic is the top D prospect. Although I do really like Reinbacher, and to a lesser degree ASP and Molendyk. D crop is pretty interesting this year. I like all of them. Everyone has one guy they have above everyone else and then a total conglomerate.
I’ve read that’s not the case. I’ll try to find it.

I've read on the prospects forum that he has, and a few other places, but I can't confirm it myself. I can say that he's played center on some shifts this year, though.
 
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