Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

[BAdvocate]

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2023 Biosteel All-American Game

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[Freddy Sjostrom]

Nice game for Will.

 

[TheLegend]

Nice game for Will.

Guess he has one hell of a slap shot.

 

[hbk]

Nice game for Will.

How many headlines will he have in the future that reference “getting Jiggy with it”?

 

[Freddy Sjostrom]

How many headlines will he have in the future that reference “getting Jiggy with it”?

Too many, poor kid. His puck skills are strong.

 

[hbk]

Just a completely off the board question but what does everyone think of Yzerman’s 1st round results since he got to Detroit? Seider had a great rookie campaign what about the rest? Am i wrong for being underwhelmed? The BA strategy to accumulate more lottery tickets seems justified.

 

[TheLegend]

Too many, poor kid. His puck skills are strong.

He’ll end up the “Fresh Prince of Hockey”.

 

[Freddy Sjostrom]

Just a completely off the board question but what does everyone think of Yzerman’s 1st round results since he got to Detroit? Seider had a great rookie campaign what about the rest? Am i wrong for being underwhelmed? The BA strategy to accumulate more lottery tickets seems justified.

The Yzerplan as some fans call it is not without faults. I’m not an expert on them, but in hindsight signing a bunch of free agents has not met its purpose. As to the first rounders, Lucas Raymond is progressing, on pace for 60 pts in his sophomore season. Edvinsson at 6 was highly touted, and big defenseman take longer. Cossa at 15, not sure I would have done it, but when you have two shots in the first round, you can take a chance like this. I’m sure they wish he was battling in the AHL and his numbers were better. Don’t know much about the Austrian - Kasper. Does not seem horrible. Maybe underwhelming for his reputation??

 

[Freddy Sjostrom]

Good read.

 

[Grimes]

He’ll end up the “Fresh Prince of Hockey”.

Could Will Smith be "Going to Miami" to join the struggling Panthers or will he be drafted in the "Wild Wild West"? All we know for sure is he will be "Getting Jiggy With It" no matter where he is drafted because this hockey player has "Big Willie Style".

The ultimate headline for Will Smith.

 

[rt]

Could Will Smith be "Going to Miami" to join the struggling Panthers or will he be drafted in the "Wild Wild West"? All we know for sure is he will be "Getting Jiggy With It" no matter where he is drafted because this hockey player has "Big Willie Style".

The ultimate headline for Will Smith.

But will his parents ever understand?

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

I was curious, where is the line for you to trade the pick for multiple later picks? Is it wholely dependent on where the picks are or is a pick inside of a certain area untouchable to you?

I'm kinda thinking, if I'm holding 3, and Bedard and Fantilli are gone, I'd be willing to trade back for the right picks. I'm thinking like, Montreal ends up with like 7 and 15, we move 3 and 35, I'd be ok with that. I'd feel pretty confident walking away with like Dvorsky and Barlow/Reinbacher.

If we manage a 1st in 2023 for Chychrun, and if we're lucky, a 2023 1st for Gostisbehere, we could have a huge haul of high end prospects. I think that would also assist in me trading down a bit. Dvorsky, Reinbacher, Hrabal, Halttunen would be a pretty sweet package.

I think I'd be ok maintaining a similar pick ratio as the pick moved back, unless a player I really like is still on the board, and wont be later.

All that said, I'd prefer Bedard/Fantilli.

 

[rt]

I was curious, where is the line for you to trade the pick for multiple later picks? Is it wholely dependent on where the picks are or is a pick inside of a certain area untouchable to you?

I'm kinda thinking, if I'm holding 3, and Bedard and Fantilli are gone, I'd be willing to trade back for the right picks. I'm thinking like, Montreal ends up with like 7 and 15, we move 3 and 35, I'd be ok with that. I'd feel pretty confident walking away with like Dvorsky and Barlow/Reinbacher.

If we manage a 1st in 2023 for Chychrun, and if we're lucky, a 2023 1st for Gostisbehere, we could have a huge haul of high end prospects. I think that would also assist in me trading down a bit. Dvorsky, Reinbacher, Hrabal, Halttunen would be a pretty sweet package.

I think I'd be ok maintaining a similar pick ratio as the pick moved back, unless a player I really like is still on the board, and wont be later.

All that said, I'd prefer Bedard/Fantilli.

Definitely looking at Augustine ahead of Hrabal at this point.

I wouldn’t trade down if we end up with any pick between 1-5, right now. But it’s still early. Things will change a lot.

 

[hbk]

Definitely looking at Augustine ahead of Hrabal at this point.

I wouldn’t trade down if we end up with any pick between 1-5, right now. But it’s still early. Things will change a lot.

someone is going to be trading up if they think Smith is a 1C potentially. Barlow's size and if you like a D you are going to want to be in that 10-12 range to get ahead of where they are slotted to go. Maybe even the 7-10 if the small slowish wingers drop.

For AZ though we have tons of picks. I'd rather we get the guy that we like a lot unless that guy is way off of everyone's board and we absolutely know we can get free assets and only drop a couple of slots.

 

[rt]

someone is going to be trading up if they think Smith is a 1C potentially. Barlow's size and if you like a D you are going to want to be in that 10-12 range to get ahead of where they are slotted to go. Maybe even the 7-10 if the small slowish wingers drop.

I think I’d just take Smith, myself.

 

[hbk]

I think I’d just take Smith, myself.

I haven't done my list on paper just yet but I just worry about a top 6 that includes Cooley, Schmaltz, Guenther, Maccelli, Keller. Schmaltz will be moved when the cap increases is my belief but I think BA is going to be targeting size and given Barlow's play 10 game goal streak he may be rocketing up our list.

 

[rt]

I haven't done my list on paper just yet but I just worry about a top 6 that includes Cooley, Schmaltz, Guenther, Maccelli, Keller. Schmaltz will be moved when the cap increases is my belief but I think BA is going to be targeting size and given Barlow's play 10 game goal streak he may be rocketing up our list.

I think Cooley and Guenther will not be thought of as small when they’re full grown.

 

[lanky]

If we are lucky enough to get a Bedard / Michkov super-skilled shrimp, then I could definitely see Maccelli being put on the trade market.

 

[Grimes]

If we are lucky enough to get a Bedard / Michkov super-skilled shrimp, then I could definitely see Maccelli being put on the trade market.

Yeah good point. Maccelli and Schmaltz may not be long term pieces. We will need to upgrade the blueline so maybe if Maccelli has another strong season next year he is moved that following offseason. Crouse is clearly a top 6 player too so we may see skill distributed across three lines ala NJD.

 

[Jakey53]

If we are lucky enough to get a Bedard / Michkov super-skilled shrimp, then I could definitely see Maccelli being put on the trade market.

The kid is 22. We need talent in case you didn't notice. Let these kids get their feet wet before we even think of trading them.

 

[Jakey53]

Yeah good point. Maccelli and Schmaltz may not be long term pieces. We will need to upgrade the blueline so maybe if Maccelli has another strong season next year he is moved that following offseason. Crouse is clearly a top 6 player too so we may see skill distributed across three lines ala NJD.

Two years ago many wanted to trade Crouse and Fischer, and this year Hayton, but now Crouse is working his way into top six conversation. Let these kids mature. Haste makes waste. The only reason I would think of trading Schmaltz is his age for our rebuild. I think he is fine, but the way it looks BA wants picks and picks and more picks.

 

[lanky]

The kid is 22. We need talent in case you didn't notice. Let these kids get their feet wet before we even think of trading them.

I don't disagree.
If we're lucky enough to get Michkov then he'd arrive in Tempe in 2026.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Definitely looking at Augustine ahead of Hrabal at this point.

I wouldn’t trade down if we end up with any pick between 1-5, right now. But it’s still early. Things will change a lot.

I don't know crap about goalies, just threw a name I knew and wouldn't be out of place.

I'm not particularly high on Carlsson, by no fault of his own. Michkov has some question marks. I could be dead wrong, but Smith seems pretty uninteresting to me. Yager, Dvorsky, and Benson (maybe at 3?) are interesting, but probably not taking them at 3 if I can help it.

That's just my perspective, I've been very bad at watching the kids this year, even highlights, so take my opinion with some extra grains of salt lol.

 

[TheLegend]

Who's in the best position to tank for Connor Bedard? A roundtable on the teams with the best shot

Which NHL team has the best chance at Bedard, a generation prospect? Where would he fit best? Who needs him the most?

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Coyotes: They’re actually quite worse, which is almost impressive given they’re 28th in the league standings. The Coyotes have the worst expected-goals-for percentage in the league at 39.53 and they average the fewest shots on goal per game at a meager 24. And perhaps even more alarming — or encouraging, if we’re talking tanking — they’re doing all this with a likely unsustainable 11.7 shooting percentage, second-best in the league. So how are the Coyotes only the fifth-worst team in the league? Two words: Karel Vejmelka. The second-year goalie is having a spectacular season behind an awful team, with a 9-8-3 record and 13.84 goals saved above expected, per Evolving-Hockey. That’s fifth in the league, ahead of the likes of Jake Oettinger and Igor Shesterkin. He’s singlehandedly tanking the tank.

So their consensus is we must trade Veggie!!!

 

[rt]

If we don’t win one do the lotteries, I think we’ll be doing a lot of arguing over Benson or Smith.