Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

[Freddy Sjostrom]

They lost, but Michkov had a goal and this SO goal.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Sick photo though.

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He always reminds me of Clark Kent, especially when he wears the blue/red suit tie combo.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

He always reminds me of Clark Kent, especially when he wears the blue/red suit tie combo.

That's my favorite one. I plan to adopt a similar theme because of how sharp it looks. I rarely wear a suit now though, I'll need an excuse to buy it.

 

[Jagged Ice]

They lost, but Michkov had a goal and this SO goal.

Now that he's healthy and with Sochi, he'll get a lot of minutes to showcase. Sochi sucks. He played almost 15 minutes his first game with them on the second line. The KHL season ends in February though.

 

[hbk]

I guess it’s prudent we grabbed two C’s early last draft because it’s shaping up we are looking at a small winger (and potentially Russian) right now. I feel like a father who just found out his 16 year old son damaged the car. “I’m not upset. I’m just disappointed”. The goal this year was a top 3 pick without having to worry about a lottery. We knew other teams would tank hard. We had a full year to prepare. There are no excuses.

 

[Freddy Sjostrom]

Agree hbk, imo, what a wasted year if we don’t get one of those monsters at the top of this incredible draft. I get it, building culture and identity are important.
Just listened to the Bill Armstrong interview on the Athletic podcast. BA views the rebuild in the 11-14 year range. With that in mind, and to your point, waiting on Michkov seems like less of a big deal. I don’t see them finishing lower than 4th = 6th with lottery luck. Maybe Will Smith, Dvo, Yager, Benson range. Of course, Veggie might pull them into the 10-13 range too.

 

[rt]

Agree hbk, imo, what a wasted year if we don’t get one of those monsters at the top of this incredible draft. I get it, building culture and identity are important.
Just listened to the Bill Armstrong interview on the Athletic podcast. BA views the rebuild in the 11-14 year range. With that in mind, and to your point, waiting on Michkov seems like less of a big deal. I don’t see them finishing lower than 4th = 6th with lottery luck. Maybe Will Smith, Dvo, Yager, Benson range. Of course, Veggie might pull them into the 10-13 range too.

39:40 Mark for those interested

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

This is going to suck as bad as it did when we were so close to getting our hands on McDavid or Eichel, only to fall short. Major let down. Not the end of the world, but it would(ve) been really nice.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

This is going to suck as bad as it did when we were so close to getting our hands on McDavid or Eichel, only to fall short. Major let down.

To me this feels like the following season where we knew Matthews was just sitting there but Domi and Duclair were having such fun rookie seasons that we accepted being bad but not nearly bad enough. What made missing on Mcdavid/Eichel so painful was that that season was misery incarnate. Every game. It felt like we needed one of them to even become a team again. It doesn't really feel like that this year.

I'm still kinda hoping that they trade Chychrun, Ghost and Bjugstad for a bunch of assets and plummet after march though.. It's for the best.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

To me this feels like the following season where we knew Matthews was just sitting there but Domi and Duclair were having such fun rookie seasons that we accepted being bad but not nearly bad enough. What made missing on Mcdavid/Eichel so painful was that that season was misery incarnate. Every game. It felt like we needed one of them to even become a team again. It doesn't really feel like that this year.

I'm still kinda hoping that they trade Chychrun, Ghost and Bjugstad for a bunch of assets and plummet after march though.. It's for the best.

We've got posters that won't embrace the tank, yet they still dream of Matthews signing here as a free agent on a whopper contract lol.

 

[Jagged Ice]

We've got posters that won't embrace the tank, yet dream of Matthews signing here as a free agent on a whopper contract lol.

Signing Matthews to his next contract would be a disaster this early into a rebuild. He's going to get the biggest contract given to any NHL player since the cap began. You don't blow $13 million a season on a ten+ year term when half of that term is spent rebuilding, and not in contention. That's a terrible use of resources, and thankfully our GM is brighter than that. It will never happen. Matthews remains a Leaf or becomes a Ranger, Bruin or King.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Signing Matthews to his next contract would be a disaster this early into a rebuild. He's going to get the biggest contract given to any NHL player since the cap began. You don't blow $13 million a season on a ten+ year term when half of that term is spent rebuilding, and not in contention. That's a terrible use of resources, and thankfully our GM is brighter than that. It will never happen. Matthews remains a Leaf or becomes a Ranger, Bruin or King.

We'd pay the most for what could be his declining years too.

 

[Jakey53]

We've got posters that won't embrace the tank, yet they still dream of Matthews signing here as a free agent on a whopper contract lol.

I hate tanking, and no I don't dream of AM's signing here.

 

[AZviaNJ]

39:40 Mark for those interested

Very good and very predictable.

Dude does not back off from his plan and clearly sees this as a very long-term play. 11-14 years for a rebuild, assuming he means from when he started as GM in 2020, so for Coyote fans factor the 6 years in front of his hire and we could be looking at a 20 year rebuild! Still hope I'm around in 2034 to see the fruits of Army's labor.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I hate tanking, and no I don't dream of AM's signing here.

Then you wouldn't be someone I was talking about lol. Besides, I don't have anyone specific in mind.

 

[rt]

Very good and very predictable.

Dude does not back off from his plan and clearly sees this as a very long-term play. 11-14 years for a rebuild, assuming he means from when he started as GM in 2020, so for Coyote fans factor the 6 years in front of his hire and we could be looking at a 20 year rebuild! Still hope I'm around in 2034 to see the fruits of Army's labor.

I think he meant from tear down to championship. And that’s starting without pieces. He mentioned Keller, Schmaltz, Chychrun etc as speeding up the timeline. Plus the record number of picks.

 

[Jakey53]

This is going to suck as bad as it did when we were so close to getting our hands on McDavid or Eichel, only to fall short. Major let down. Not the end of the world, but it would(ve) been really nice.

And both those players have led their teams to the promise land. One already traded. Both entering their eight season. It's a team sport so unless the team can surround their super star or stars, it's tough to win. I would love Bedard, but if we don't it's not the end of the world as you said.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

And both those players have led their teams to the promise land.

So what? Winning a cup is so hard that only one team does it every year and the only thing harder than winning it is repeating. I'd still like to be able to watch exciting players of their caliber on my team on a regular basis, since a cup is huge longshot anyways lol.

 

[Jakey53]

Very good and very predictable.

Dude does not back off from his plan and clearly sees this as a very long-term play. 11-14 years for a rebuild, assuming he means from when he started as GM in 2020, so for Coyote fans factor the 6 years in front of his hire and we could be looking at a 20 year rebuild! Still hope I'm around in 2034 to see the fruits of Army's labor.

I don't see where he gets 11-14 years from. It doesn't make sense. Not one player in our organization will be playing hockey by then. So it doesn't matter if we get Bedard.

 

[Freddy Sjostrom]

Dvo playing great gets rewarded. Still a kid, stepping up on a big stage.

 

[Jakey53]

So what? Winning a cup is so hard that only one team does it every year and the only thing harder than winning it is repeating. I'd still like to be able to watch exciting players of their caliber on my team on a regular basis, since a cup is huge longshot anyways lol.

I'm having fun watching our team this year without super stars. Sure it's fun watching McDavid, but it's more fun to win. You can always change teams. My son cheers for the winning teams only. He hates all the Arizona sports teams.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I'm having fun watching our team this year without super stars. Sure it's fun watching McDavid, but it's more fun to win. You can always change teams. My son cheers for the winning teams only. He hates all the Arizona sports teams.

I could enjoy it more if the (few extra) wins were actually worth anything helpful to the team's future. I can't get too excited about winning what will amount to just enough games to end up 25th in the league instead of bottom 3. It's still a turd of a season, only with a lot less to show for it.

 

[moosemeister]

Dvo playing great gets rewarded. Still a kid, stepping up on a big stage.

I had him at 3 going into the year. He's probably been passed by a few players, but I'm hopeful he's my guy at 6/7 at the draft.

 

[hbk]

I haven’t put together a draft list just yet but in my head i have some names in that 5-8 range that i really like. Just nobody that i view as important to a rebuild as a Fantilli or Bedard. Even Carlson doesn’t have me uber excited like the first two names just yet.

 

[rt]

I haven’t put together a draft list just yet but in my head i have some names in that 5-8 range that i really like. Just nobody that i view as important to a rebuild as a Fantilli or Bedard. Even Carlson doesn’t have me uber excited like the first two names just yet.

Same.