2023 Draft Discussion

[norrisnick]

Drafting Benson and Heighdt is mutually exclusive, really.

Too similar? They definitely aren't in the same range pick wise.

 

[evolutionbaby]

What happens if Dvorsky and Benson are both there? Who is likely to fall a couple spots after our pick? I’d love to trade up after 9 if both are there. What would the pride be? 17 a 2nd this year and next?

 

[norrisnick]

What happens if Dvorsky and Benson are both there? Who is likely to fall a couple spots after our pick? I’d love to trade up after 9 if both are there. What would the pride be? 17 a 2nd this year and next?

Take the center.

 

[ZDH]

Take Benson.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Take the center.

Take the vastly better player. Always BPA.

 

[norrisnick]

Take the vastly better player. Always BPA.

Different words, but same thing I said.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

What happens if Dvorsky and Benson are both there? Who is likely to fall a couple spots after our pick? I’d love to trade up after 9 if both are there. What would the pride be? 17 a 2nd this year and next?

Take Benson. He’s the better player.

Different words, but same thing I said.

No you didn’t. Dvorsky is not better than Benson at anything.

 

[norrisnick]

No you didn’t. Dvorsky is not better than Benson at anything.

Better at playing against teenagers...

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Too similar? They definitely aren't in the same range pick wise.

If you draft Benson, he brings a lot of attributes... but definitely not the heighdt.

 

[norrisnick]

If you draft Benson, he brings a lot of attributes... but definitely not the heighdt.

Oh, it was a pun. I just thought you'd fat fingered the name.

 

[lilidk]

Benson is one of the top offensively gifted and creative players in the draft hands down..

If we want actual skill, Benson then Yager would go a long way to addressing that

If we get Benson , I hope they keep him away from NHL or AHL for at least 3 years. Build some muscle before they bring him in. Yager at 17 will be great , just not sure if he's a center, probably not.

 

[Guyver]

Benson and Yager could very well be our Keller and Connor in a few years. Intriguing.

 

[Redwing66]

Benson and Yager could very well be our Keller and Connor in a few years. Intriguing.

I get the feeling we may have to move a bit higher than 17 for this to be a reality. I wonder if 17 and a second might be doable to move up a few spots.

 

[norrisnick]

I get the feeling we may have to move a bit higher than 17 for this to be a reality. I wonder if 17 and a second might be doable to move up a few spots.

I just ran realgud's drafter on normal and first try got this. Not that it's something I want to do, but certainly possible. Probably not with that Lenni dude going to... Arizona? That seems unlikely. But there's lots of guys that could just as easily move into the low 10s. Danielson, Simashev, Willander, Ritchie, Honzek, etc...

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Take the center.

take the better player (benson)

 

[newfy]

I also could see Detroit being really high on Easton Cowan from London.

Cowans style of play and how good he was in the playoffs makes me think hes going earlier than people will expect. Itll be a classic "reach" pick that will turn out fine in a year or two. Hes 53 on Bobs list, I wouldnt be surprised if the wings take him with one of their 3 seconds at all

 

[Reddwit]

Choosing between Dvorsky and Benson would be a great problem to have. I lean Benson but I wouldn’t hate Dvorsky either.

 

[NickH8]

It came as a shock to me to hear this recent fall of Benson's draft stock, but I'm all for it if it means we get him. People aren't respecting how elite of a manipulator and passer he is. He drove the bus for that Winnipeg team and is one of the most creative players I've ever seen. I guarantee he's going to be a top 6 forward in the NHL.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Cowans style of play and how good he was in the playoffs makes me think hes going earlier than people will expect. Itll be a classic "reach" pick that will turn out fine in a year or two. Hes 53 on Bobs list, I wouldnt be surprised if the wings take him with one of their 3 seconds at all

In one of my attempts with Realgud's draft simulator Cowan went 25th, so we may have to move up if we really want him, but on another attempt I was able to select him with one of our 2nd rounders.

9 (1). Zach Benson (LW)
17 (1). Brayden Yager (C)
41 (2). Kalan Lind (LW)
42 (2). Gracyn Sawchyn (C)
43 (2). Easton Cowan (RW)
73 (3). Felix Nilsson (C)
117 (4). Matthew Mania (RD)
137 (5). Ty Halaburda (C)
169 (6). Tomas Suchanek (G)
201 (7). Mazden Leslie (RD)

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Not many days left now until we know...

 

[SantosHalper]

What happens if Dvorsky and Benson are both there? Who is likely to fall a couple spots after our pick?

Dvorsky is no-brainer, Benson most likely scores more points but Dvorsky's overall game will improve the team more. Dvorsky is exactly the type of player what Yzerman wants to build this team around, strong 200-foot game, skill, grit, character and the org has said that Red Wings needs to become bigger and tougher to play against. Also Red Wings needs goals, Dvorsky adds both and brings more depth in the middle. And Dvorsky is SHL bound next year, the best developmental league in the world, Yzerman himself said that.

Not to even mention, 4 out of 5 first round picks are from Europe. Outside the top-5 names i don't believe that Yzerman would not pick anyone except Dvorsky.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Dvorsky is no-brainer, Benson most likely scores more points but Dvorsky's overall game will improve the team more. Dvorsky is exactly the type of player what Yzerman wants to build this team around, strong 200-foot game, skill, grit, character and the org has said that Red Wings needs to become bigger and tougher to play against. Also Red Wings needs goals, Dvorsky adds both and brings more depth in the middle. And Dvorsky is SHL bound next year, the best developmental league in the world, Yzerman himself said that.

Not to even mention, 4 out of 5 first round picks are from Europe. Outside the top-5 names i don't believe that Yzerman would not pick anyone except Dvorsky.

Do you think Dvorsky will be available at 9? He seems to be rising.

 

[Realgud]

Dvorsky is no-brainer, Benson most likely scores more points but Dvorsky's overall game will improve the team more. Dvorsky is exactly the type of player what Yzerman wants to build this team around, strong 200-foot game, skill, grit, character and the org has said that Red Wings needs to become bigger and tougher to play against. Also Red Wings needs goals, Dvorsky adds both and brings more depth in the middle. And Dvorsky is SHL bound next year, the best developmental league in the world, Yzerman himself said that.

Not to even mention, 4 out of 5 first round picks are from Europe. Outside the top-5 names i don't believe that Yzerman would not pick anyone except Dvorsky.

Hmm interesting, to me it's the total reverse as I think Benson is a much better defensive player, more skilled, more grit and more character. Dvorsky is bigger and possibly a better goalscorer. Benson is simply so much better at basically everything. I don't mind Dvorsky, and especially if that's Steve's pick at 9 tbh.

 

[Redwing66]

Hmm interesting, to me it's the total reverse as I think Benson is a much better defensive player, more skilled, more grit and more character. Dvorsky is bigger and possibly a better goalscorer. Benson is simply so much better at basically everything. I don't mind Dvorsky, and especially if that's Steve's pick at 9 tbh.

As a Redwings diehard fan and uneducated evaluator of draft talent I guess I'll just hope both are available and see who Stevie picks. It will be very interesting to see if we don't move the 17 pick up slightly to perhaps look at Perreault, Barlow, Moore or Yager as the next pick, immediately after Benson/Dvorsky

 

[SantosHalper]

Do you think Dvorsky will be available at 9? He seems to be rising.

Im hoping.

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Carlsson
4. Mitchkov
5. Smith
6. Reinbacher
7. Leonard
8. Dvorsky or Benson

The top-4 is set but after that things are quite open. Montreal could use a defenseman but Smith is a clear BPA and there's been lot's of rumours of them liking Leonard. Arizona has 1 decent D prospect, they are bound to pick Reinbacher. New Flyers POHO said that they need to rebuild team starting from the defense and Reinbacher is most likely gone by then, Philly takes Leonard then.

But if the rumours are true that Montreal really likes Leonard, then Arizona could take Smith and Philly picks Reinbacher. I don't see Dvorsky being picked between 5-7, Montreal & Arizona have different needs and that might even drop Smith to #7.

Caps are aging badly, they could really use Dvorsky. That is going to be the most nerve wrecking moment in the draft.

Hmm interesting, to me it's the total reverse as I think Benson is a much better defensive player, more skilled, more grit and more character. Dvorsky is bigger and possibly a better goalscorer. Benson is simply so much better at basically everything. I don't mind Dvorsky, and especially if that's Steve's pick at 9 tbh.

Benson is more skilled but overally Dvorsky is a better player. Dvorsky would have outscored and outplayed Benson, if also he would have played in WHL.