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OgeeOgelthorpe said:
That would be such an injustice but wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'm betting on the lottery wins going to some combination of Chicago, Philadelphia and Arizona.
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And the Ducks are sitting there thinking:

Oh noes. Our absolute worst case scenario is getting either Fantilli or Carlson. However shall we cope with this disaster...
 
Don’t think I’ve ever wanted it as badly as I do this year.

I think I’m a little lower on the talent available around #9 than the rest of the board, I think the drop off from the first few picks is massive.

Feel like we’re running out of rope to draft that dynamic, high-end forward in the rebuild. I trust Yzerman to do his best to maneuver without that, but without that top 2/3 pick I do think you really have to work against the grain.

jkutswings said:
And the Ducks are sitting there thinking:

Oh noes. Our absolute worst case scenario is getting either Fantilli or Carlson. However shall we cope with this disaster...
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Carlsson feels very Anaheim to me. I like that fit, ideally in a world where we walk away with Bedard or Fantilli.
 
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Ed Ned and Leddy said:
Don’t think I’ve ever wanted it as badly as I do this year.

I think I’m a little lower on the talent available around #9 than the rest of the board, I think the drop off from the first few picks is massive.

Feel like we’re running out of rope to draft that dynamic, high-end forward in the rebuild. I trust Yzerman to do his best to maneuver without that, but without that top 2/3 pick I do think you really have to work against the grain.



Carlsson feels very Anaheim to me. I like that fit, ideally in a world where we walk away with Bedard or Fantilli.
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it's too bad the Wings aren't a few spots higher

it seems like there's a non zero chance Michkov might still be there at like 6th or something but 9th just feels too unrealistic
 
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OgeeOgelthorpe said:
That would be such an injustice but wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'm betting on the lottery wins going to some combination of Chicago, Philadelphia and Arizona.
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I'm putting my money on Washington (Bedard) and Pittsburgh (Michkov).

*edit: I'm not saying there's any grand conspiracy. I just think there would be something poetic about it. I would hate it, but I'd also find it hilarious.
 
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OgeeOgelthorpe said:
No. Will it into existence that Detroit wins the lotto, then trades the Bedard pick for #2 and an absolute mountain of players and prospects and get Leo Carlsson anyway.
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Let's walk down that road for a sec. How many teams would have the assets AND actually want to part with a "mountain of players and prospects" to move from 2 to 1?

I'm sure that 90 percent of the league would definitely rather have Bedard than either Fantilli or Carlson. But I'd guess that those same teams would rather keep their assets and stay at #2 than cough up the irresistible price tag.

In this hypothetical, who exactly would be the sucker born every minute?
 
jkutswings said:
Let's walk down that road for a sec. How many teams would have the assets AND actually want to part with a "mountain of players and prospects" to move from 2 to 1?

I'm sure that 90 percent of the league would definitely rather have Bedard than either Fantilli or Carlson. But I'd guess that those same teams would rather keep their assets and stay at #2 than cough up the irresistible price tag.

In this hypothetical, who exactly would be the sucker born every minute?
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As far as the sucker GMs?

Arizona
Chicago
Columbus
Montreal
Philadelphia

I think any of those teams would be open to negotiating.
 
OgeeOgelthorpe said:
No. Will it into existence that Detroit wins the lotto, then trades the Bedard pick for #2 and an absolute mountain of players and prospects and get Leo Carlsson anyway.
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If we won the lottery and traded out I think I would scream and cry and throw up, but to each their own.
 
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Bedard
Fantilli
Carlson
Michkov
Smith
Dvorsky
Leonard
Reinbacher
Benson
Yager
Wood
Moore
After that there's small drop
Stenberg
Perreault
Danielson
Barlow
Simashev
Sandin Pelikka
Heidt
Cristal
 
jfrank21 said:
Ive never cheered for another team like I have Florida in these playoffs. Them moving on screws the Leafs (blow it up!), screws the Habs (they move down like 12 spots), and helps the Wings move up one spot. It couldnt get any sweeter!
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Sorry but I missed this one (and im too lazy to look it up). How does this happen?
 
OgeeOgelthorpe said:
Yeah, Grier doesn't instill too much confidence. The Meier trade was not great value returned.
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I had it on here somewhere but going off of what you said previous in trading the 1st to anaheim's 2nd OA, I chose Zegras over troy terry because I think his trade value is much higher, and I was saying trading zegras to san jose to get eklund/1st/forgot who else at the moment.

In my scenario, we ended up with Fantili/Carlsson, the two players you had from anaheim, eklund, much more. Bedard is great and all, but having this enitrely new rebuild in a day would turn this organization around immediately. Bedard could sure do that too, but with a committee like I included here, would be close to serious contender mode, including making it look like we are the destination again (debrincat/meier/connor may want to come here even more so if we did all that because we would be close).
 
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