2023 Draft Discussion

[norrisnick]

I disagree here, nobody is just dumb. Babcock had no interest in developing players he was in Cup winning business, he didn't play them enough and benched for mistakes. I don't think being benched is the best possible way how to learn from your mistakes.

Many people are just dumb. Hockey players or otherwise. Yes, Babcock had no use for kids that weren't safe. But Smith didn't get any better in awareness or decision making post-Wings.

 

[DamonDRW]

Can we somehow get both Benson and Dvorsky? It is not like trading for 3td overall, we just need to move up 6-7 places

 

[norrisnick]

Can we somehow get both Benson and Dvorsky? It is not like trading for 3td overall, we just need to move up 6-7 places

Problem is to ensure Dvorsky the #9 probably has to stay where it's at to grab Benson and the #17 has to leapfrog to #6-7 to get Dvorsky. #17 to #6-7 is not cheap.

 

[DamonDRW]

Problem is to ensure Dvorsky the #9 probably has to stay where it's at to grab Benson and the #17 has to leapfrog to #6-7 to get Dvorsky. #17 to #6-7 is not cheap.

Indeed, we need to go higher that our current pick... Maybe Wallinder (someone that is comparable to Simashov and has confirmed the potential already) could make it happen? But the again, I'm not sure I'd like to lose him.

Mazur won't do that and I would hate to lose Berggren.

 

[jkutswings]

I can totally see him taking that cut and basically locking in mountains with mobility as our future top 4.

If I ever start a band that plays at hockey games, they're definitely going to be called Mountains With Mobility.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Here’s a 2nd round name we’ve talked about a bit but I think needs more attention.

Anton Wahlberg


Malmo isn’t as good a development program as our usual suspects, but Wings legend Peter Worrel (Andreas Lilja) works there. There are also questions about his skating agility and overall consistency, but I think there’s a lot to work with in this prospect. Profiles as a big, goal scoring winger.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Can we somehow get both Benson and Dvorsky? It is not like trading for 3td overall, we just need to move up 6-7 places

Pronman has Dvorsky 8 and Benson 17
Button has Dvorsky 9 and Benson 14

It's not impossible.

 

[Gniwder]

I disagree here, nobody is just dumb.

Smith played a live puck with his hand from the bench. That's about as dumb as you can get.

I'm sure he would have done better with a more forgiving coach, but he was and still is low on IQ, both hockey and otherwise.

 

[Redwing66]

Interested in hearing who will be the target should Stevie decide to jump back into the 20's and where do two seconds land us? My guess would be for a talented Center that might not make it to the 40's- Edstrom, Stenberg, Sawchyn. Mid to late 20's?

 

[norrisnick]

Interested in hearing who will be the target should Stevie decide to jump back into the 20's and where do two seconds land us? My guess would be for a talented Center that might not make it to the 40's- Edstrom, Stenberg, Sawchyn. Mid to late 20's?

Only really worth it if we had two guys in mind at 17 and want them both. For the players ranked 20-25+ enough will be there at 41 not too worry too much.

 

[Crunchy]

Was just thinking... if Dvorak isn't available, the top 8 picks go as expected, and we have a choice between Benson/Danielson/Wood, I'd think we are in prime trade down position. There will be some defense needy teams picking in this range looking to get ahead of a run on D. All of St Louis at 10, Vancouver at 11, and Arizona at 12, maybe even Buf at 13 could be targeting D. 2 or 3 of Benson/Danielson/Wood could be available to us even if we trade back a few picks. We could pick up another 2nd rounder and get some more trade/trade up flexibility while also getting our guy.

 

[ZDH]

If Danielson slips I could see it. Walking away with Benson, Willander, and Danielson in the 1st would be pretty awesome.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

But wouldn't be a bad choice, there is no telling where he might go.

 

[lilidk]

Interested in hearing who will be the target should Stevie decide to jump back into the 20's and where do two seconds land us? My guess would be for a talented Center that might not make it to the 40's- Edstrom, Stenberg, Sawchyn. Mid to late 20's?

Those three and
Danny Nelson at eliteprospects.com.
4 those guys I believe going to be NHL players, reduce quantities, improve qualities

 

[Holden Caufield]

Would be incredible if a Center like Edstrom, Nelson, or Fisker Molgaard fell to us in the second round. Oh man.

Sawchyn and Heidt would be alright for upside swings. I think Heidt’s value took a hit at U18’s…. Could see a scenario where he falls into the 40’s.

 

[lilidk]

Would be incredible if a Center like Edstrom, Nelson, or Fisker Molgaard fell to us in the second round. Oh man.

Sawchyn and Heidt would be alright for upside swings. I think Heidt’s value took a hit at U18’s…. Could see a scenario where he falls into the 40’s.

That entire Canada team was disaster , , I blame on coaches and managers of the team

 

[Holden Caufield]

That entire Canada team was disaster , , I blame on coaches and managers of the team

Wood and Gibson looked really good.

But agreed, most of the rest underperformed.

 

[lilidk]

Never seen him playing, remember Skouch liked him, small guy with great MHL numbers, just check his father and brothers , all big guys

Yegor Klimovich - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Yegor Klimovich, 2005-05-14 Novosibirsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the MHL with Sibirskie Snaipery Novosibirsk. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[Realgud]

Never seen him playing, remember Skouch liked him, small guy with great MHL numbers, just check his father and brothers , all big guys

Yegor Klimovich - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Yegor Klimovich, 2005-05-14 Novosibirsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the MHL with Sibirskie Snaipery Novosibirsk. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

I think he's a great player, fast and very skilled but even that height of 5'9 seems generous. He's very small. Also, he plays in a weak division in the MHL, hence the excellent production. Despite this, I had him in my final HM list (so in my top 150). He's a super long shot but I think he deserves a late pick (especially if he grows, like you said).

 

[lilidk]

I think he's a great player, fast and very skilled but even that height of 5'9 seems generous. He's very small. Also, he plays in a weak division in the MHL, hence the excellent production. Despite this, I had him in my final HM list (so in my top 150). He's a super long shot but I think he deserves a late pick (especially if he grows, like you said).

Perfect six-seventh round

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I think he's a great player, fast and very skilled but even that height of 5'9 seems generous. He's very small. Also, he plays in a weak division in the MHL, hence the excellent production. Despite this, I had him in my final HM list (so in my top 150). He's a super long shot but I think he deserves a late pick (especially if he grows, like you said).

CHL import draft candidate?

 

[Holden Caufield]

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CHL import draft candidate?

The CHL banned Russians from the import draft.

 

[lilidk]

Indeed, we need to go higher that our current pick... Maybe Wallinder (someone that is comparable to Simashov and has confirmed the potential already) could make it happen? But the again, I'm not sure I'd like to lose him.

Mazur won't do that and I would hate to lose Berggren.

Wallinder need some time in NHL before we shop him. Put him on the same line with Maata, see what can he does

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

The CHL banned Russians from the import draft.

Ok then.

EDIT: Where was I on that one.

 

[Gniwder]

Was just thinking... if Dvorak isn't available, the top 8 picks go as expected, and we have a choice between Benson/Danielson/Wood, I'd think we are in prime trade down position. There will be some defense needy teams picking in this range looking to get ahead of a run on D. All of St Louis at 10, Vancouver at 11, and Arizona at 12, maybe even Buf at 13 could be targeting D. 2 or 3 of Benson/Danielson/Wood could be available to us even if we trade back a few picks. We could pick up another 2nd rounder and get some more trade/trade up flexibility while also getting our guy.

That's not how it works. The scouting team will want the player they like best and pick the player. They don't have them lumped together equally like you do. Heck, you can see here that people have their preferences.