2023 Draft Discussion

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

He's a guy that hope drops to Detroit's 2nd.

 

[SantosHalper]

Maxim Strbak at eliteprospects.com
Since we have a need for more RHDs, would be quite ideal 2nd round pick.

 

[norrisnick]

Maxim Strbak at eliteprospects.com
Since we have a need for more RHDs, would be quite ideal 2nd round pick.

I mean, we have a need for a 3rd pairing RHD. Not sure if that's worth a 2nd rounder.

 

[SantosHalper]

I mean, we have a need for a 3rd pairing RHD. Not sure if that's worth a 2nd rounder.

???

Anton Johansson, Oscar Plandowski(bust), Antti Tuomisto, Gustav Berglund(bust), Wyatt Newpower(never was), Seth Barton(bust) are the only RHDs in the system. AnJo is the only one who has shown something promising and Tuomisto hasn't exactly set sky on fire but there might be some hope. There is need for more RHD prospects. Strbak is compared to Cernak and i could see Yzerman being interested.

 

[norrisnick]

???

Anton Johansson, Oscar Plandowski(bust), Antti Tuomisto, Gustav Berglund(bust), Wyatt Newpower(never was), Seth Barton(bust) are the only RHDs in the system. AnJo is the only one who has shown something promising and Tuomisto hasn't exactly set sky on fire but there might be some hope. There is need for more RHD prospects. Strbak is compared to Cernak and i could see Yzerman being interested.

Seider and Hronek are 21 and 25. Maybe draft one or two if they are clear BPAs as a potential flip but RHD is not a pressing organizational need to go out of our way to pursue them.

 

[SantosHalper]

Seider and Hronek are 21 and 25. Maybe draft one or two if they are clear BPAs as a potential flip but RHD is not a pressing organizational need to go out of our way to pursue them.

Chances that Seider and Hronek are able play all the games in next 15 years are slim to none, depth wins championships and it's better to be safe than sorry.

Second thing is the salary cap, if everything pans out Seider and Edvinsson(+others) will have massive contracts in the future. If Hronek keeps scoring like this, he wants to get paid sooner or later and Red Wings wont be able keep everyone. Replacements ain't easy to find so it's also important to keep all positions stacked. Cheap ELC deals are also key to success in salary cap era.

 

[norrisnick]

Chances that Seider and Hronek are able play all the games in next 15 years are slim to none, depth wins championships and it's better to be safe than sorry.

Second thing is the salary cap, if everything pans out Seider and Edvinsson(+others) will have massive contracts in the future. If Hronek keeps scoring like this, he wants to get paid sooner or later and Red Wings wont be able keep everyone. Replacements ain't easy to find so it's also important to keep all positions stacked. Cheap ELC deals are also key to success in salary cap era.

I get all that, but the need is not to the level where RHD should be a focal point. Our organizational depth at center is a much greater issue. If Kasper doesn't pan out Larkin is it as far as top 6 centers go. And that's assuming (which I am) that Larkin re-signs.

 

[Perfect Human]

List of players that intrigue and am always looking for more information on (in alphabetical order):

Kevin Bicker; W, L - DEL, Mannheim U20

Kevin Bicker - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Kevin Bicker, 2005-01-29 Schwabach, GER Germany. Most recently in the DEL with Löwen Frankfurt. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Jakub Dvorak; D, L - Extraliga, Bílí Tygři Liberec Men's

Jakub Dvořák - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Jakub Dvořák, 2005-05-25 Liberec, CZE Czechia. Most recently in the AHL with Ontario Reign. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Lenni Hämeenaho; W, R - Liiga, Ässät

Lenni Hämeenaho - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Lenni Hämeenaho, 2004-11-07 Kajaani, FIN Finland. Most recently in the Liiga with Ässät. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Martin Misiak; C, L - Extraliga, HC Nove Zamsky

Martin Misiak - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Martin Misiak, 2004-09-30 Banska Bystrica, SVK Slovakia. Most recently in the OHL with Erie Otters. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Marek Rocak; D, R - Extraliga, HC Frýdek-Místek (loan)/HC Oceláři Třinec

Marek Rocak - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Marek Rocak, 2005-05-31 Valasske Klobouky, CZE Czechia. Most recently in the undefined with Kelowna Rockets. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Tom Willander; D, R - SHL J20, Rogle BK

Tom Willander - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Tom Willander, 2005-02-09 Stockholm, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the NCAA with Boston Univ.. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Felix Nilsson; C/W, L - SHL J20, Rogle BK

Felix Nilsson - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Felix Nilsson, 2005-06-22 Stockholm, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the SHL with Rögle BK. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Gotta love Elite Prospects tracker feature! I like Euro players because I trust the Wings' scouting process over there much more than NA, tbh.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

This is realgud on the realgudness scale. Playmaking C/W. Related to LDN.

 

[Frk It]

HP having Honzek ranked #10 has made want to look into him more.

(Plus I feel like @OgeeOgelthorpe would love having a Hronek and Honzek on the team )

 

[SantosHalper]

I get all that, but the need is not to the level where RHD should be a focal point. Our organizational depth at center is a much greater issue. If Kasper doesn't pan out Larkin is it as far as top 6 centers go. And that's assuming (which I am) that Larkin re-signs.

The center depth is abysmal and it is the biggest organizational need, but highly unlikely that every pick will be used on centers. Since upcoming draft is a "center draft", good D prospects could fall.

 

[norrisnick]

The center depth is abysmal and it is the biggest organizational need, but highly unlikely that every pick will be used on centers. Since upcoming draft is a "center draft", good D prospects could fall.

I'm a big believer in BPA.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I'm a big believer in BPA.

BPA center.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I am pleased to announce that prolific wingers are once again a position of need in our prospect pool. The #10-20 range is, historically, a pretty good range to acquire talent on the wings.

Which wingers in our range are you stoked on this year? I'll throw Benson out as a personal early favorite, but unfortunately work has prevented me from watching as much amateur hockey as I'd like to this fall. Looking forward to keeping up with the more active posters in this thread.

 

[Frk It]

I am pleased to announce that prolific wingers are once again a position of need in our prospect pool. The #10-20 range is, historically, a pretty good range to acquire talent on the wings.

Which wingers in our range are you stoked on this year? I'll throw Benson out as a personal early favorite, but unfortunately work has prevented me from watching as much amateur hockey as I'd like to this fall. Looking forward to keeping up with the more active posters in this thread.

Sale is my dream pick for us

 

[NickH8]

I am pleased to announce that prolific wingers are once again a position of need in our prospect pool. The #10-20 range is, historically, a pretty good range to acquire talent on the wings.

Which wingers in our range are you stoked on this year? I'll throw Benson out as a personal early favorite, but unfortunately work has prevented me from watching as much amateur hockey as I'd like to this fall. Looking forward to keeping up with the more active posters in this thread.

Sale is my dream pick for us

Sale is one I really like. Also if his stock stays under the radar Andrew Cristall. The knock is that he's 5'9" and at best isn't a liability defensively, but he has the most points in the WHL other than that one kid in Regina. Dude can play.
Also I haven't watched him yet but I've heard some good things about Matthew Wood at Uconn. Big kid producing well in the NCAA. Teams are going to be watching him closely seeing if they can replicate a Jason Robertson pick since it's a copycat league.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Sale is my dream pick for us

Hopefully he falls a little and we get him on Sale.

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

Hey everyone, I was hoping to get out my preliminary list before the WJC. This ranking is created in part from a prospect model which uses logistical regression to create an expected value for prospects in the major leagues - USHL, CHL, EU Pro, and junior leagues.

I had only intended on the list being about 30 or so names long, but I found it difficult to cut it down so I expanded it to around 60. I really like the top end of this draft and while the forwards are rightfully getting a lot of talk there are a ton of intriguing defenceman in this draft. Dragicevic, Gulyayev, and Reinbacher are the clear top 3 D right now and I think if Gulyayev has been able to play at the Hlinka/U18s/WJC he'd be getting talk as a potential top 3 pick.

Spoiler: List

Tier	Player	Pos
1​	Connor Bedard	F
2​	Matvei Michkov	F
2​	Leo Carlsson	F
2​	Adam Fantilli	F
3​	Lukas Dragicevic	D
3​	Andrew Cristall	F
3​	Mikhail Gulyayev	D
4​	Mazden Leslie	D
4​	Brayden Yager	F
4​	Colby Barlow	F
4​	Will Smith	F
4​	David Reinbacher	D
4​	Eduard Sale	F
4​	Dalibor Dvorský	F
4​	Bradly Nadeau	F
5​	Hunter Brzustewicz	D
5​	Etienne Morin	D
5​	Gavin McCarthy	D
5​	Andrew Strathmann	D
5​	Axel Sandin Pellikka	D
5​	Samuel Honzek	F
5​	Riley Heidt	F
5​	Koehn Ziemmer	F
5​	Quentin Musty	F
5​	Alexander Rykov	F
5​	Zach Benson	F
5​	Matthew Wood	F
5​	Noah Dower Nilsson	F
6​	Luca Cagnoni	D
6​	Egor Sidorov	F
6​	Lucas Moore	D
6​	Jayden Perron	F
6​	Michael Hrabal	G
6​	Roman Kantserov	F
6​	Daniil But	F
6​	Jesse Kiiskinen	F
6​	Kasper Halttunen	F
6​	Gavin Brindley	F
6​	Oliver Moore	F
6​	Dmitri Simashev	D
6​	Ryan Leonard	F
6​	Aydar Suniev
7​	Carter Sotheran	D
7​	Caden Price	D
7​	Nate Danielson	F
7​	Carson Bjarnason	G
7​	Oliver Bonk	D
7​	Luca Pinelli	F
7​	Mathieu Cataford	F
7​	Jordan Tourigny	D
7​	Ethan Gauthier	F
7​	Gabe Perreault	F
7​	William Whitelaw	F
7​	Trey Augustine	G
7​	Sharakanov Magomed	D
7​	Timur Mukhanov	F
7​	Arttu Kärki	D
7​	Lenni Hämeenaho	F
7​	Alex Ciernik	F
7​	Ondrej Molnár	F
7​	Maxim Strbak	D
7​	Felix Unger Sörum	F
7​	Hoyt Stanley	D
7​	Aiden Fink	F

Don't focus too much on the order as I just placed players in their respective tiers. As I said above I really like this draft and I think as of now this draft has 1st round talent into the 6th tier and even the 7th.

 

[lilidk]

Will Smith is center and projected in mid first

 

[Frk It]

Made a top 32 list for fun.

Bedard
Fantilli
Michkov
Carlsson
Smith
Dvorsky
Yager
Sale
Benson
Moore
Cristall
Honzek
Musty
Dragicevic
Barlow
Ziemmer
Simashev
Perrault
Ritchie
Hrabal
Gulyayev
Wood
Dower Nilsson
Morin
Gauthier
Stenberg
Leonard
Sandin Pelikka
Danielson
Stramel
Perron
Reinbacher

 

[lilidk]

Yzerman - Fedorov.
Datsyuk - Zetterburg.
Larkin
Kasper? - Moore?
We need to draft another top line center. I am not sure yet if Kasper is one of the duet .
Oliver Moore at eliteprospects.com
I read somewhere that he is similar to Larkin

 

[Killerjas]

This is good goalie draft, let's get 1 more goalie prospect behind Cossa

 

[norrisnick]

This is good goalie draft, let's get 1 more goalie prospect behind Cossa

May we get the best goalie available in the 6th round!

 

[Mister Ed]

This draft in going to be stacked in the center department, no matter where Detroit picks in the 1st round. For example, there's 17 centers in Tony Ferrari's Top 50 for 2023.

 

[lilidk]

This is good goalie draft, let's get 1 more goalie prospect behind Cossa

Just not in the first 3 rounds please