2023 Draft Discussion

[Hen Kolland]

Cant find the exact quote anymore in that thread...odd.

I was able to stumble upon it. I was curious if there was a source or if it was recollection. But appreciate it!

 

[Vector Cereal]

Hmmm a bit hard to do as I have my own recordings of the games that I have personally seen, and I didn't really search on youtube either, but I invite you to do so and you might find something you like. A lot of amateur scouting comes down to luck too, because you're not watching each prospect 15+ times (maybe if it's your only hobby), I might have just been lucky and seen the best out of Honzek lol, but yeah he has all the tools (size, skating, shot, passing, hands...). I wonder how much of that package he'll be able to effectively transfer to the next level but I'm a big believer.

Fair enough. I'll keep digging, thanks. My go to is always a highlight package and at least one full game of shifts for each player, but Honzek's was so underwhelming for me that I had to wonder if I just caught a bad game. He just drifted so much in my viewings. He's the first case of "plays bigger than he actually is" being a bad thing. He moves like a gangly 6'6 guy when he's only 6'4. To me, Wood, who is a half an inch shorter but went through a massive growth spurt recently, looks much more comfortable and coordinated playing as a big guy.

 

[Henkka]

Finally.

My updated Top138.

4,5 rounds of hockey people.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]Pick[/TD]
[TD]AVG[/TD]
[TD]Range[/TD]
[TD]Pos[/TD]
[TD]2023 draft[/TD]
[TD]Size/Hand[/TD]
[TD]Nation[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1,1[/TD]
[TD]1-2[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Connor Bedard[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]Tier[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2,3[/TD]
[TD]2-4[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Adam Fantilli[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3,1[/TD]
[TD]2-5[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Matvei Michkov[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]3,8[/TD]
[TD]1-9[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Leo Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]Tier[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]6,6[/TD]
[TD]4-18[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Will Smith[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]8,2[/TD]
[TD]5-17[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Zach Benson[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]9,3[/TD]
[TD]5-15[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Dalibor Dvorsky[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]Tier[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]13,5[/TD]
[TD]5-28[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]David Reinbacher[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - R[/TD]
[TD]AUT[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]14,0[/TD]
[TD]6-29[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Ryan Leonard[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]14,2[/TD]
[TD]6-24[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Brayden Yager[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]14,4[/TD]
[TD]7-28[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Oliver Moore[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]14,6[/TD]
[TD]8-32[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Eduard Sale[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]14,6[/TD]
[TD]5-38[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Axel Sandin-Pellikka[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]Tier[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]16,5[/TD]
[TD]10-27[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Wood[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]18,2[/TD]
[TD]7-33[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Nate Danielson[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]18,4[/TD]
[TD]8-38[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Colby Barlow[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]18,8[/TD]
[TD]7-41[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Gabe Perreault[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA/CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]19,3[/TD]
[TD]8-43[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Calum Ritchie[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]20,1[/TD]
[TD]10-39[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Otto Stenberg[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]20,2[/TD]
[TD]11-31[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Quentin Musty[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]20,7[/TD]
[TD]6-68[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Andrew Cristall[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]22,1[/TD]
[TD]13-41[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Mikhail Gulyayev[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]22,4[/TD]
[TD]10-59[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Riley Heidt[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]Tier[/TD]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]25,2[/TD]
[TD]13-52[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Gavin Brindley[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]25,3[/TD]
[TD]16-35[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Ethan Gauthier[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]26,0[/TD]
[TD]13-46[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Samuel Honzek[/TD]
[TD]6'4 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]27,0[/TD]
[TD]8-49[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Dimitri Simashev[/TD]
[TD]6'4 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]27,2[/TD]
[TD]9-48[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Daniil But[/TD]
[TD]6'4 - R[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]28,8[/TD]
[TD]16-53[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Kasper Halttunen[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]29,0[/TD]
[TD]8-61[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Tom Willander[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]31,5[/TD]
[TD]18-42[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]David Edström[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]33,6[/TD]
[TD]9-68[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Charlie Stramel[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]33,9[/TD]
[TD]12-60[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Lukas Dragicevic[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - RD[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]34,8[/TD]
[TD]16-65[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Koehn Ziemmer[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]36,4[/TD]
[TD]16-60[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Theo Lindstein[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]37,6[/TD]
[TD]17-60[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Caden Price[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD]38,1[/TD]
[TD]33-46[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Bradley Nadeau[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]40,3[/TD]
[TD]26-71[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Oliver Bonk[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD]40,7[/TD]
[TD]21-73[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Michael Hrabal[/TD]
[TD]6'6 - L[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]40,9[/TD]
[TD]25-60[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Tanner Molendyk[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]42,3[/TD]
[TD]12-107[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Jayden Perron[/TD]
[TD]5'8 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]43,2[/TD]
[TD]23-82[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Oscar Fisker Molgaard[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]DEN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]43,5[/TD]
[TD]24-61[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Hunter Brzustevic[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]44,3[/TD]
[TD]25-95[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Luca Cagnoni[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]45,4[/TD]
[TD]30-73[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Trey Augustine[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]45,8[/TD]
[TD]22-73[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Maxim Strbak[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - R[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]46,3[/TD]
[TD]28-80[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Mathieu Cataford[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]48[/TD]
[TD]47,3[/TD]
[TD]26-101[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Etienne Morin[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]49[/TD]
[TD]48,2[/TD]
[TD]29-74[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Lenni Hämeenaho[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]49,0[/TD]
[TD]39-68[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Carson Rehkopf[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]51[/TD]
[TD]49,3[/TD]
[TD]24-75[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Carson Bjarnason[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]52[/TD]
[TD]50,2[/TD]
[TD]28-99[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Danny Nelson[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]50,6[/TD]
[TD]25-96[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Roman Kantserov[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]50,7[/TD]
[TD]12-96[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Cam Allen[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]51,7[/TD]
[TD]29-111[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]William Whitelaw[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]53,9[/TD]
[TD]20-84[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Jakub Dvorak[/TD]
[TD]6'4 - L[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]57[/TD]
[TD]54,7[/TD]
[TD]27-101[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Kalan Lind[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]58[/TD]
[TD]55,2[/TD]
[TD]25-100[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Luca Pinelli[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]59[/TD]
[TD]55,4[/TD]
[TD]38-94[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Beau Akey[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]55,7[/TD]
[TD]24-74[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Alex Ciernik[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]57,2[/TD]
[TD]47-75[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Andrew Strathmann[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]58,0[/TD]
[TD]44-79[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Aram Minnetian[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]63[/TD]
[TD]58,6[/TD]
[TD]32-81[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Adam Gajan[/TD]
[TD]6'4 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]64[/TD]
[TD]59,4[/TD]
[TD]20-106[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Noah Dower Nilsson[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD]60,1[/TD]
[TD]29-116[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Gracyn Sawchyn[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]61,0[/TD]
[TD]29-96[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Anton Wahlberg[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]61,7[/TD]
[TD]19-103[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Jesse Kiiskinen[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD]62,6[/TD]
[TD]36-100[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Aydar Suniev[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]63,3[/TD]
[TD]45-73[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Jacob Fowler[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]63,8[/TD]
[TD]29-103[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Denver Barkey[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]65,1[/TD]
[TD]33-102[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Arttu Kärki[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]65,3[/TD]
[TD]51-90[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Andrew Gibson[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]65,8[/TD]
[TD]28-97[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Coulson Pitre[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]74[/TD]
[TD]66,7[/TD]
[TD]41-90[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Nick Lardis[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD]67,1[/TD]
[TD]46-102[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Jordan Tourigny[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD]67,2[/TD]
[TD]41-88[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Felix Nilsson[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]77[/TD]
[TD]67,9[/TD]
[TD]41-132[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Timur Mukhanov[/TD]
[TD]5'8 - R[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]68,4[/TD]
[TD]44-94[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Nico Myatovic[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]79[/TD]
[TD]69,4[/TD]
[TD]34-134[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Alexander Rykov[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]80[/TD]
[TD]71,0[/TD]
[TD]39-106[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Juraj Pekarcik[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD]71,5[/TD]
[TD]37-92[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Felix Unger Sörum[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]82[/TD]
[TD]72,1[/TD]
[TD]53-90[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Ethan Miedema[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]83[/TD]
[TD]73,6[/TD]
[TD]48-111[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Tyler Peddle[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]76,2[/TD]
[TD]41-103[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Ondrej Molnar[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]85[/TD]
[TD]76,8[/TD]
[TD]46-101[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Mania[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]86[/TD]
[TD]76,9[/TD]
[TD]62-107[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Martin Misiak[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]87[/TD]
[TD]77,7[/TD]
[TD]58-113[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Noel Nordh[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]88[/TD]
[TD]77,9[/TD]
[TD]49-99[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Carey Terrance[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]78,3[/TD]
[TD]34-118[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Easton Cowan[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]79,8[/TD]
[TD]39-111[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Emil Järventie[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]91[/TD]
[TD]80,6[/TD]
[TD]35-101[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Gavin McCarthy[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD]80,9[/TD]
[TD]42-108[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Jesse Nurmi[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - L[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]93[/TD]
[TD]81,0[/TD]
[TD]47-105[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Tuomas Uronen[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]94[/TD]
[TD]81,4[/TD]
[TD]30-105[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Rasmus Kumpulainen[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]95[/TD]
[TD]81,5[/TD]
[TD]64-98[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Scott Ratzlaff[/TD]
[TD]6'0[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]82,4[/TD]
[TD]64-104[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Carter Sotheran[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]97[/TD]
[TD]82,6[/TD]
[TD]47-106[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Soto[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]84,9[/TD]
[TD]59-122[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Quinton Burns[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]99[/TD]
[TD]87,3[/TD]
[TD]69-107[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Brad Gardiner[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]88,1[/TD]
[TD]52-109[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Jakub Stancl[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]101[/TD]
[TD]88,9[/TD]
[TD]64-114[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Emil Pieniniemi[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]FIN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]102[/TD]
[TD]90,3[/TD]
[TD]67-116[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Yegor Rimashevsky[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]BLR[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]103[/TD]
[TD]90,5[/TD]
[TD]71-102[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Matteo Mann[/TD]
[TD]6'5 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]91,3[/TD]
[TD]40-113[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Griffin Erdman[/TD]
[TD]5'10[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]105[/TD]
[TD]91,6[/TD]
[TD]28-141[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Zeb Forsfjäll[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]106[/TD]
[TD]92,4[/TD]
[TD]70-117[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Jaden Lipinski[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]107[/TD]
[TD]92,8[/TD]
[TD]49-146[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Joseph Willis[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]108[/TD]
[TD]93,2[/TD]
[TD]70-132[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Aiden Fink[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]109[/TD]
[TD]96,1[/TD]
[TD]69-179[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Albert Wikman[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]110[/TD]
[TD]96,3[/TD]
[TD]53-118[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Yegor Klimovich[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]111[/TD]
[TD]97,1[/TD]
[TD]47-137[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Daniil Karpovich[/TD]
[TD]6'3- L[/TD]
[TD]BLR[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]112[/TD]
[TD]97,7[/TD]
[TD]69-106[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Paul Fischer[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]113[/TD]
[TD]98,5[/TD]
[TD]74-140[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]Alex Pharand[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]114[/TD]
[TD]99,1[/TD]
[TD]82-109[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Tristan Bertucci[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]115[/TD]
[TD]99,4[/TD]
[TD]75-130[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Dylan MacKinnon[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]116[/TD]
[TD]100,1[/TD]
[TD]78-116[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Drew Fortescue[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]117[/TD]
[TD]100,4[/TD]
[TD]76-120[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Connor Levis[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]118[/TD]
[TD]100,5[/TD]
[TD]58-128[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Jason Shaugabay[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]119[/TD]
[TD]102,4[/TD]
[TD]83-112[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Cam Squires[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - R[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]103,0[/TD]
[TD]65-130[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Chase Cheslock[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]121[/TD]
[TD]103,7[/TD]
[TD]54-152[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Martin Matejicek[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]122[/TD]
[TD]103,8[/TD]
[TD]77-125[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Cole Knuble[/TD]
[TD]5'11 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]123[/TD]
[TD]103,9[/TD]
[TD]81-159[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]Ryan Fine[/TD]
[TD]5'9 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]124[/TD]
[TD]104,2[/TD]
[TD]51-151[/TD]
[TD]RD[/TD]
[TD]Tomas Kralovic[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - R[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]125[/TD]
[TD]104,7[/TD]
[TD]66-130[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Jake Fisher[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]126[/TD]
[TD]105,3[/TD]
[TD]56-120[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Yegor Zavrakin[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]127[/TD]
[TD]105,5[/TD]
[TD]64-200[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Kalle Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]128[/TD]
[TD]108,5[/TD]
[TD]88-159[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Francesco Dell'Elce[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]129[/TD]
[TD]108,6[/TD]
[TD]79-132[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Brandon Svoboda[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]130[/TD]
[TD]109,4[/TD]
[TD]66-127[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Brady Cleveland[/TD]
[TD]6'4 - L[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]131[/TD]
[TD]110,4[/TD]
[TD]63-202[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Ivan Remezovsky[/TD]
[TD]6'1 - L[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]132[/TD]
[TD]110,6[/TD]
[TD]89-144[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Will Vote[/TD]
[TD]5'7 - R[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]133[/TD]
[TD]111,3[/TD]
[TD]83-202[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Luke Coughlin[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]134[/TD]
[TD]113,0[/TD]
[TD]83-137[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Damian Clara[/TD]
[TD]6'6[/TD]
[TD]ITA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]135[/TD]
[TD]114,2[/TD]
[TD]99-155[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Saige Weinstein[/TD]
[TD]6'0 - L[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]136[/TD]
[TD]114,6[/TD]
[TD]79-209[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Frantisek Ridzon[/TD]
[TD]5'10 - R[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]114,9[/TD]
[TD]90-172[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Rodwin Dionicio[/TD]
[TD]6'2 - L[/TD]
[TD]SUI/USA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]115,3[/TD]
[TD]78-211[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Zigmund Zöld[/TD]
[TD]6'3 - R[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Realgud]

Fair enough. I'll keep digging, thanks. My go to is always a highlight package and at least one full game of shifts for each player, but Honzek's was so underwhelming for me that I had to wonder if I just caught a bad game. He just drifted so much in my viewings. He's the first case of "plays bigger than he actually is" being a bad thing. He moves like a gangly 6'6 guy when he's only 6'4. To me, Wood, who is a half an inch shorter but went through a massive growth spurt recently, looks much more comfortable and coordinated playing as a big guy.

Yeah that's why amateur scouting is interesting if you're not watching many games for each prospect. For example, I've seen 4 games of Sudbury this season and Musty was extremely lazy and downright bad in all of them, so as a result I can't rank him very high because that's what I've seen. But when I look at the tools and the production, you gotta believe there's something there even though I haven't personally seen it. It's probably the same thing with Honzek if I'm being honest. I just happen to have caught amazing games from him so I probably have that bias that wants to rank him high as a result.

 

[Realgud]

Sup.

This is my top 100 for the 2023 draft. I have also added a list of 50 honorable mentions (in alphabetical order). I never spent as much time doing this before but since the Wings have been in a rebuild, I've slowly but surely started watching more prospects and this year I kind of went all-in and it was a fun process. It makes the draft days that much more fun as I have my opinions based on what I have watched. Friendly reminder that this is for fun, I will never claim to be the best or most knowledgable, nor will I claim that the Wings should have drafted "my guys". I do my own draft with the Wings picks as it goes along on draft day and it's just to be able to compare in a few years and see what I missed or what I did well. I do think when I look back on some of my opinions, some look good, some don't and that's just what you should always expect. But as I've had more and more opinions that were contrarian, some of them started to look realgud in retrospect which led me down this path of going straight to the source and start watching prospects more and see how much I really know hehe. This is the most confident I've been on a draft list but that's because I've spent so much more time than any other year, so it's just natural. There are guys that I've ranked low that I'm scared of because I know they could explode and show things that I didn't exactly see and quickly make me look stupid but oh well

The honorable mentions are guys that I would pick from (I have my favourites) if my top 100 was entirely gone (unlikely). A lot of players in there are long shots that I prefer to give an extra year of development and see where they are in their D+1. They flashed some interesting stuff but might not be exactly at an NHL prospect level yet, but I would love if NHL teams ended drafting some of them as long term projects.

Spoiler: Top 100

1. Connor Bedard
2. Leo Carlsson
3. Zach Benson
4. Matvei Michkov
5. Adam Fantilli
6. Gabriel Perreault
7. Will Smith
8. David Reinbacher
9. Tom Willander
10. Samuel Honzek
11. Ryan Leonard
12. Calum Ritchie
13. Matthew Wood
14. Nate Danielson
15. Oliver Moore
16. Lukas Dragicevic
17. Andrew Cristall
18. Otto Stenberg
19. Dalibor Dvorsky
20. Dmitri Simashev
21. Colby Barlow
22. Brayden Yager
23. Bradley Nadeau
24. Eduard Sale
25. Jakub Dvorak
26. Adam Gajan
27. Charlie Stramel
28. Damian Clara
29. Mathieu Cataford
30. Kasper Halttunen
31. Daniil But
32. Alexander Rykov
33. Michael Hrabal
34. Danny Nelson
35. Gavin Brindley
36. Jimmy Clark
37. Vojtech Port
38. Trey Augustine
39. Petter Vesterheim
40. Aram Minnetian
41. Axel Sandin Pellikka
42. Anton Wahlberg
43. Felix Nilsson
44. Jesse Kiiskinen
45. Jaden Lipinski
46. Matthew Mania
47. David Edstrom
48. Noel Nordh
49. Quentin Musty
50. Mikhail Gulyayev
51. Oscar Fisker Molgaard
52. Kalan Lind
53. Jayden Perron
54. Carson Rehkopf
55. Lenni Hameenaho
56. Sawyer Mynio
57. Oliver Bonk
58. Daniil O Ivanov
59. Riley Heidt
60. Logan Cunningham
61. William Whitelaw
62. Roman Kantserov
63. Luca Cagnoni
64. Juraj Pekarcik
65. Carey Terrance
66. Hannes Hellberg
67. Matthew Soto
68. Michael Hagens
69. Ivan Vydrenkov
70. Kocha Delic
71. Tanner Molendyk
72. Gracyn Sawchyn
73. Anton Ohlsson
74. Koehn Ziemmer
75. Charlie Cerrato
76. Cole Miller
77. Nick Lardis
78. Easton Cowan
79. Aydar Suniev
80. Ryan Fine
81. Rasmus Kumpulainen
82. Maxim Strbak
83. Theo Lindstein
84. Jacob Fowler
85. Felix Unger Sorum
86. Hunter Brzustewicz
87. Tristan Bertucci
88. Coulson Pitre
89. Samuel Barcik
90. Tanner Adams
91. Yegor Sidorov
92. Elias Zimmerman
93. Luca Pinelli
94. Andrew Gibson
95. Carson Bjarnason
96. Ethan Gauthier
97. Ivan Anoshko
98. Rasmus Larsson
99. Alex Ciernik
100. Yevgeni Volokhin

Spoiler: HMs (in alphabetical order)

Matias Bachelet
Denver Barkey
Hugo Bergendal
Yegor Borikov
Cole Burbidge
Quinton Burns
Brady Cleveland
Mai Crnkic
Noah Dower-Nilsson
Niks Fenenko
Dennis Good Bogg
Jack Harvey
Martin Johnsen
Antoine Keller
Fyodor Khrapov
Yegor Klimovich
Cole Knuble
Borna Kopac
Axel Landen
Mazden Leslie
Connor Levis
Andrei Loshko
Tanner Ludtke
Ignat Lutfullin
Dylan MacKinnon
Anton Maryshev
Endo Meier
Martin Misiak
Etienne Morin
Vadim Moroz
Timur Mukhanov
Casper Nassen
Owen Outwater
Phileas Perrenoud
Rasmus Rudslatt
Ivan Ryabov
Ian Scherzer
Jayson Shaugabay
Filip Sitar
Carter Sotheran
Spencer Sova
Jakub Stancl
Nikita Susuyev
Emil Tavernier
Jordan Tourigny
Oliver Tulk
Joseph Willis
Zaccharya Wisdom
Charlie Wright
Stepan Zvyagin

 

[norrisnick]

Sup.

This is my top 100 for the 2023 draft. I have also added a list of 50 honorable mentions (in alphabetical order). I never spent as much time doing this before but since the Wings have been in a rebuild, I've slowly but surely started watching more prospects and this year I kind of went all-in and it was a fun process. It makes the draft days that much more fun as I have my opinions based on what I have watched. Friendly reminder that this is for fun, I will never claim to be the best or most knowledgable, nor will I claim that the Wings should have drafted "my guys". I do my own draft with the Wings picks as it goes along on draft day and it's just to be able to compare in a few years and see what I missed or what I did well. I do think when I look back on some of my opinions, some look good, some don't and that's just what you should always expect. But as I've had more and more opinions that were contrarian, some of them started to look realgud in retrospect which led me down this path of going straight to source and start watching prospects more and see how much I really know hehe. This is the most confident I've been on a draft list but that's because I've spent so much more time than any other year, so it's just natural. There are guys that I've ranked low that I'm scared of because I know they could explode and show things that I didn't exactly see and quickly make me look stupid but oh well

The honorable mentions are guys that I would pick from (I have my favourites) if my top 100 was entirely gone (unlikely). A lot of players in there are long shots that I prefer to give an extra year of development and see where they are in their D+1. They flashed some interesting stuff but might not be exactly at an NHL prospect level yet, but I would love if NHL teams ended drafting some of them as long term projects.

Spoiler: Top 100

1. Connor Bedard
2. Leo Carlsson
3. Zach Benson
4. Matvei Michkov
5. Adam Fantilli
6. Gabriel Perreault
7. Will Smith
8. David Reinbacher
9. Tom Willander
10. Samuel Honzek
11. Ryan Leonard
12. Calum Ritchie
13. Matthew Wood
14. Nate Danielson
15. Oliver Moore
16. Lukas Dragicevic
17. Andrew Cristall
18. Otto Stenberg
19. Dalibor Dvorsky
20. Dmitri Simashev
21. Colby Barlow
22. Brayden Yager
23. Bradley Nadeau
24. Eduard Sale
25. Jakub Dvorak
26. Adam Gajan
27. Charlie Stramel
28. Damian Clara
29. Mathieu Cataford
30. Kasper Halttunen
31. Daniil But
32. Alexander Rykov
33. Michael Hrabal
34. Danny Nelson
35. Gavin Brindley
36. Jimmy Clark
37. Vojtech Port
38. Trey Augustine
39. Petter Vesterheim
40. Aram Minnetian
41. Axel Sandin Pellikka
42. Anton Wahlberg
43. Felix Nilsson
44. Jesse Kiiskinen
45. Jaden Lipinski
46. Matthew Mania
47. David Edstrom
48. Noel Nordh
49. Quentin Musty
50. Mikhail Gulyayev
51. Oscar Fisker Molgaard
52. Kalan Lind
53. Jayden Perron
54. Carson Rehkopf
55. Lenni Hameenaho
56. Sawyer Mynio
57. Oliver Bonk
58. Daniil O Ivanov
59. Riley Heidt
60. Logan Cunningham
61. William Whitelaw
62. Roman Kantserov
63. Luca Cagnoni
64. Juraj Pekarcik
65. Carey Terrance
66. Hannes Hellberg
67. Matthew Soto
68. Michael Hagens
69. Ivan Vydrenkov
70. Kocha Delic
71. Tanner Molendyk
72. Gracyn Sawchyn
73. Anton Ohlsson
74. Koehn Ziemmer
75. Charlie Cerrato
76. Cole Miller
77. Nick Lardis
78. Easton Cowan
79. Aydar Suniev
80. Ryan Fine
81. Rasmus Kumpulainen
82. Maxim Strbak
83. Theo Lindstein
84. Jacob Fowler
85. Felix Unger Sorum
86. Hunter Brzustewicz
87. Tristan Bertucci
88. Coulson Pitre
89. Samuel Barcik
90. Tanner Adams
91. Yegor Sidorov
92. Elias Zimmerman
93. Luca Pinelli
94. Andrew Gibson
95. Carson Bjarnason
96. Ethan Gauthier
97. Ivan Anoshko
98. Rasmus Larsson
99. Alex Ciernik
100. Yevgeni Volokhin

Spoiler: HMs (in alphabetical order)

Matias Bachelet
Denver Barkey
Hugo Bergendal
Yegor Borikov
Cole Burbidge
Quinton Burns
Brady Cleveland
Mai Crnkic
Noah Dower-Nilsson
Niks Fenenko
Dennis Good Bogg
Jack Harvey
Martin Johnsen
Antoine Keller
Fyodor Khrapov
Yegor Klimovich
Cole Knuble
Borna Kopac
Axel Landen
Mazden Leslie
Connor Levis
Andrei Loshko
Tanner Ludtke
Ignat Lutfullin
Dylan MacKinnon
Anton Maryshev
Endo Meier
Martin Misiak
Etienne Morin
Vadim Moroz
Timur Mukhanov
Casper Nassen
Owen Outwater
Phileas Perrenoud
Rasmus Rudslatt
Ivan Ryabov
Ian Scherzer
Jayson Shaugabay
Filip Sitar
Carter Sotheran
Spencer Sova
Jakub Stancl
Nikita Susuyev
Emil Tavernier
Jordan Tourigny
Oliver Tulk
Joseph Willis
Zaccharya Wisdom
Charlie Wright
Stepan Zvyagin

As to be expected I tossed your list and HMs into your draft tool and dialed it up to highest. This is what it picked (I didn't select).

9 (1). David Reinbacher
17 (1). Andrew Cristall
41 (2). Vojtech Port
42 (2). Anton Wahlberg
43 (2). Trey Augustine
73 (3). Oliver Tulk
117 (4). Dylan MacKinnon
137 (5). Denver Barkey

EDIT - I greatly prefer picking over the AI...

9 (1). Tom Willander
17 (1). Dalibor Dvorsky
41 (2). Kasper Halttunen
42 (2). Anton Wahlberg
43 (2). Felix Nilsson
73 (3). Quentin Musty
117 (4). Koehn Ziemmer
137 (5). Gracyn Sawchyn

 

[ZDH]

Supposedly Cowan is racing up teams draft lists. No source for any of this but some see him as a possible late 1st/early 2nd pick instead of a 3rd/4th rounder now.

 

[Realgud]

As to be expected I tossed your list and HMs into your draft tool and dialed it up to highest. This is what it picked (I didn't select).

9 (1). David Reinbacher
17 (1). Andrew Cristall
41 (2). Vojtech Port
42 (2). Anton Wahlberg
43 (2). Trey Augustine
73 (3). Oliver Tulk
117 (4). Dylan MacKinnon
137 (5). Denver Barkey

EDIT - I greatly prefer picking over the AI...

9 (1). Tom Willander
17 (1). Dalibor Dvorsky
41 (2). Kasper Halttunen
42 (2). Anton Wahlberg
43 (2). Felix Nilsson
73 (3). Quentin Musty
117 (4). Koehn Ziemmer
137 (5). Gracyn Sawchyn

Yeah I like your picks because obviously some big names would "fall" because of my rankings lol.

 

[Realgud]

Supposedly Cowan is racing up teams draft lists. No source for any of this but some see him as a possible late 1st/early 2nd pick instead of a 3rd/4th rounder now.

I like Cowan but he's a bit too vanilla for me right now but I like how he plays at faster pace. For example in the playoffs, he had no trouble adjusting to the faster game and his quick decision-making was evident and I liked that a lot. The problem that I have with him is that I have trouble identifying what's his real upside at the NHL level. As it stands, I only see a potential bottom 6 energy guy with some skill and awesome forechecking abilities but he's also 5'10 which is no great for that "role". Even though I have him a bit low, I do think there's some nice offensive potential that he has displayed but a lot of it felt driven by Winterton when I watched him.

 

[Reddwit]

Here's a draft write up that I thought was pretty decent. This guy clearly spent some time watching this class and has some pretty good info/ write ups. And it's free to browse. I found it interesting that he has some pretty similar rankings to the Black Book for a decent amount of his top 32.

NHL Draft Ranking 2023, by Simon St-L.

NHL Draft Ranking 2023, by Simon St-L. - TSLH -

www.toutsurlehockey.com

That site is cancer on mobile but great write-ups. Thanks for the link. The analysis of Benson at 4 matches the eye test for me. It took me a while to arrive at a preferred target at 9 but at this point it’s Benson if he’s still there. I really don’t see any way he isn’t at least a 2nd liner, and honestly that feels dismissive of his skill and IQ. A mediocre size/skating combo usually gives me pause but I just don’t see anything stopping Benson from being a top liner. He’s too smart, too skilled, and has too much compete to falter, the latter being the key. Marchand, Keller, Point, Marchessault or Raymond on steroids, a hyper-skilled Gallagher - he’s somewhere in there.

It would be a mistake to pass on him if he’s there.

Edit to add: I also don’t think he’s that far off from contributing in the NHL. He should be a top 6 contributor by his D+2.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Hard to tell what Michkov is doing. Is he trying to only go to certain teams? That's what Friedman speculated on his podcast.

Supposedly, some teams are really frustrated. For instance, Andrei Nikolishin of the Caps tried to meet with him, but was refused. Source, which is referencing this Russian language live stream with Nikolishin.

Supposedly, this is what he said:

To me, he's first or second in skill [in the draft]. But when it comes to character, to attitude to his teammates, coaching staff, management, fans - the man has now fallen very low in the eyes of all the scouts, all the managers. It has nothing to do with the tragedy.


Information about the player is collected - how he talks to his partners, how he talks to the coaches, how he behaves off the ice. There are a lot of nuances that could be revealed. I can show you the correspondence when I wanted to meet with him and, as a scout, ask him some questions and do an interview, how he responds.

I've never seen such disrespect in my life for other people.

Makes you wonder: is it his handlers, or is this just him? His dad did die not that long ago. It would be understandable if he's having behavioral problems. Or even just doesn't want to deal with the media circus right now.

 

[Rolo Tomassi]

Would you take this bunch?

 

[Frk It]

Would you take this bunch?

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What universe do you see this happening in? Cause it ain’t this one we live in

 

[Killerjas]

Michkov wont come over until mid 2026, IF he comes over. He is Russia's next big thing and is absolutely adored there. High risk, a pass for me.

 

[jkutswings]

Michkov wont come over until mid 2026, IF he comes over. He is Russia's next big thing and is absolutely adored there. High risk, a pass for me.

It's going to be fascinating to see how far he falls, and how long the team that selects him takes to get him here.

 

[Killerjas]

It's going to be fascinating to see how far he falls, and how long the team that selects him takes to get him here.

My guess is that he still goes top 8, but not 2nd or 3rd overall. If I was to take a bet, 6 or 7.

 

[HisNoodliness]

What universe do you see this happening in? Cause it ain’t this one we live in

Might as well start hoping that Bedard falls to nine if that's how things are shaping up.

 

[Pavels Dog]

My guess is that he still goes top 8, but not 2nd or 3rd overall. If I was to take a bet, 6 or 7.

He hasn't been expected to go top 3 for a year. Top 5 would be surprising at this point and I'm starting to think he'll be outside the top 10.

 

[Frk It]

He hasn't been expected to go top 3 for a year. Top 5 would be surprising at this point and I'm starting to think he'll be outside the top 10.

He was #2 on McKenzie’s pre-season ranking in September and was widely considered to be the #2 player to start the season.

People don’t realize that Fantilli and Carlsson both really exceeded expectations this year.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

What if the Wings gobble up another first from either Vancouver or Pittsburgh in a cap clear scenario? Would you use that extra first of Michkov? I certainly would.

 

[better Red than Dead]

Would you take this bunch?

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Wasn’t Reinbacher the one who nonbed interviews? I could swear I read Montreal, among other teams, were not impressed. They said he lacked any fire or personality

 

[Holden Caufield]

What if the Wings gobble up another first from either Vancouver or Pittsburgh in a cap clear scenario? Would you use that extra first of Michkov? I certainly would.

We should just take him at 9 if he is there. Regardless of extra picks.

 

[Murmansk16A]

What if the Wings gobble up another first from either Vancouver or Pittsburgh in a cap clear scenario? Would you use that extra first of Michkov? I certainly would.

Didn't Vancouver just alleviate their cap situation by buying out Oliver Ekman Larson?

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Didn't Vancouver just alleviate their cap situation by buying out Oliver Ekman Larson?

This probably hinges on what sort of moves they want to make in free agency. They still have a couple of bad contracts on the book and they do have EP to sign after this season. Having said that, I pretty much agree with you, the desperation that might have led them to trading pick 14 is likely gone.
Too bad.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

What if the Wings gobble up another first from either Vancouver or Pittsburgh in a cap clear scenario? Would you use that extra first of Michkov? I certainly would.

Granlund and 14th for 42 and 43