2023 Draft Discussion

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Murmansk16A

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Detroit is currently 18th overall in NHL standings. I can easily see Toronto, Pittsburgh, Colorado, Minnesota, Nashville, and St. Louis, all currently behind Detroit, surpassing the Wings in the standings. That would put Detroit in 24th overall. Which means they would be drafting 9th overall, pending lottery results.
 
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Detroit is currently 18th overall in NHL standings. I can easily see Toronto, Pittsburgh, Colorado, Minnesota, Nashville, and St. Louis, all currently behind Detroit, surpassing the Wings in the standings. That would put Detroit in 24th overall. Which means they would be drafting 9th overall, pending lottery results.

I can also see Ottawa passing us.
But on the other hand see Montreal and maybe Philadelphia and Buffalo and New Jersey falling below us.

Before the year I said 18-22. I think that still feels right. More towards 22 if we continue getting smacked with injuries.
 
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Yeah, I'm waiting for Yzerman to find a way to draft 12th and 20th and still come away with two top-5 players in a redraft. :laugh:
What we need is some dumbass GM to make a panic move to trade for Bert without protecting their 1st. And then said team tanks anyway. So who is the dumbest team out of the ones off to a slow start that 1. still has their 1st rounder and 2. should have been better than they are? And then ideally that franchise has decent lottery luck so we make out.
 
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I'm taking a real head in the sand approach this year. I'm not gonna look at any rankings and won't make mine until January. For now I'm just compiling notes on guys. Trying to break out of falling into too many mental sets. Realgud took a similar approach last year it seems and came up with some very interesting rankings so I want to see what I can come up with.

What we need is some dumbass GM to make a panic move to trade for Bert without protecting their 1st. And then said team tanks anyway. So who is the dumbest team out of the ones off to a slow start that 1. still has their 1st rounder and 2. should have been better than they are? And then ideally that franchise has decent lottery luck so we make out.
Toronto? But I think they're forwards score too much for them to not make it in.
I expect Philly to come down to earth hard.
Nashville is too smart. St. Louis as well. Minnesota could be a candidate. Bertuzzi fits their game.
 
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What we need is some dumbass GM to make a panic move to trade for Bert without protecting their 1st. And then said team tanks anyway. So who is the dumbest team out of the ones off to a slow start that 1. still has their 1st rounder and 2. should have been better than they are? And then ideally that franchise has decent lottery luck so we make out.
Please tell me this unfolds with Chicago. :thumbu:
 

norrisnick

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Or this is the year Detroit wins and gets either Fantilli or Leo Carlsson?
Isn't winning the lottery what would bump them from 15th to 10th? I thought they changed how far you could move? Just looked it up, they can jump 10 to 5th I guess. For some reason I had jumping 5 spots as the max in my head.
 

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Isn't winning the lottery what would bump them from 15th to 10th? I thought they changed how far you could move? Just looked it up, they can jump 10 to 5th I guess. For some reason I had jumping 5 spots as the max in my head.

They can jump 10 spots. 15th = 5th with a win.
 

NickH8

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Anyone know anything about Colby Barlow? I haven't got a live viewing but watched a shift by shift on youtube of him, and to me he seemed bad. Maybe it didn't highlight certain aspects of his game but to me he looked like his stride needed work and his shooting was wildly inaccurate. I also didn't see much of a playmaking or physical game (albeit in a small sample). So what's the appeal that's got him in the teens and even #7 on Button's list?
 

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Wright supposed to be #1 but get drafted fourth. Who knows Michkov could be available around 10
 

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This draft looks so unbelievably stacked, most exciting class I have seen in the last 6 years. This is the year to tank hard and trade assests for 1st round picks. The forward team looks so promising,I wish it was draft day!
 

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Going off of Wheeler's list...Stramel. No way he's drafted at 32. Wings snag him in the teens if he's there. (Not saying that's who I want per se).

BTW, anyone planning on going to the 5 Nations tourney in Plymouth next week? $15 for the day pass. Im definitely considering going on Wed, should be a good slate of games.
 

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Couple thoughts...

-I think Stramel and Stenberg are two guys trending towards being available more in the 10-20 range, despite having some hype going into the year. I would prefer Stenberg of the two, but not necessarily opposed to Stramel. I think Stramel is going to be the annual "guy dominates off athleticism/size but isn't that skilled" tag, but I have not seen enough of him to see if he deserves it or not. I did think he was ranked a little too high going into the year based off what I saw at the U18s.

-Seems pretty likely the top 10 will be all forwards this year, we will see, which folks will probably think is good for us. The one that intrigues me is Gulyayev, and I wonder where teams will draft him with the situation in Russia. Could see the appeal where teams think they are getting a top talent in the 10-20 or 20-30 range. Could see Detroit liking him honestly, but not sure how they feel about his situation, and could see them feeling we are pretty set on defense.

-Guys I think will be ranked higher by the end of the season teams are still getting caught up on: Oliver Moore, Noah Dower-Nilsson, Etienne Morin, Jayden Perron, Axel Sandin Pelikka, Joel Svensson, Felix Unger Sorum (look him up)
 

NickH8

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Couple thoughts...

-I think Stramel and Stenberg are two guys trending towards being available more in the 10-20 range, despite having some hype going into the year. I would prefer Stenberg of the two, but not necessarily opposed to Stramel. I think Stramel is going to be the annual "guy dominates off athleticism/size but isn't that skilled" tag, but I have not seen enough of him to see if he deserves it or not. I did think he was ranked a little too high going into the year based off what I saw at the U18s.

-Seems pretty likely the top 10 will be all forwards this year, we will see, which folks will probably think is good for us. The one that intrigues me is Gulyayev, and I wonder where teams will draft him with the situation in Russia. Could see the appeal where teams think they are getting a top talent in the 10-20 or 20-30 range. Could see Detroit liking him honestly, but not sure how they feel about his situation, and could see them feeling we are pretty set on defense.

-Guys I think will be ranked higher by the end of the season teams are still getting caught up on: Oliver Moore, Noah Dower-Nilsson, Etienne Morin, Jayden Perron, Axel Sandin Pelikka, Joel Svensson, Felix Unger Sorum (look him up)
Stramel seems like the type of guy that starts slow, then picks up steam. Professional scouts are high on him for a while before the amateur scouts catch on which makes it appear like he rises out of nowhere (Gauthier). The trends in the scouting media world are so predictable.
 
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