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GDT: 2023 Caps NHL Draft Thread
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Only made it through the first two periods of the Michigan game but damn did Fantilli stand out. Seemed like a pain to play against, always moving, always in the right spot, and what a shot.
Depending on how the draft shakes out and he slides to 3 or 4, I would move up to grab him. Obviously pure speculation but assuming the Caps stay at 8/9, Fanitilli slides to 3/4, I'd swap this 1st and package next year's in a heartbeat. Caps haven't had the chance to get a player like this, and assuming we even just sneak into the playoffs the rest of the Ovi era, won't see a chance like this again for a while.
All of this and I see no way he isn't picked 2nd.
Depending on how the draft shakes out and he slides to 3 or 4, I would move up to grab him. Obviously pure speculation but assuming the Caps stay at 8/9, Fanitilli slides to 3/4, I'd swap this 1st and package next year's in a heartbeat. Caps haven't had the chance to get a player like this, and assuming we even just sneak into the playoffs the rest of the Ovi era, won't see a chance like this again for a while.
All of this and I see no way he isn't picked 2nd.
Corby78
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Yup. Even if he fell to three there’s such a huge gap between him and everyone else that hadn’t been picked that it wouldn’t make sense to trade down. If you’re a GM and the Caps are drafting 8 or 9 would you rather have Fantilli or whoever you get at the 8/9 slot and then a pick next year that could be anywhere from 10 to the 20s? No brainer for me, I’m taking my future 1C every time.
He has a fairly severe stutter, and there might be a GM or two who reacts to that in interviews and decides to let him slide. Hoping for something like that
True. Given our wealth of prospects/young D though that's a positive for us with Iorio, Chesley, AA, Fever and Sandin all looking like pretty solid NHL D going forwards.
Only if they're convinced that Will Smith is a franchise player @5. Then, maybe.
It'd be real hard for me to pass on Carlsson, Fantilli or Michkov, though. These guys have perennial All-Star futures.
Yeah, you win with top 3 picks. You don’t trade them. This isn’t the NFL.
Don’t think anyone is moving out of the top 3, probably not even top 5 or 6. And if a team is moving down they easily beat caps offer. Montreal or Arizona would certainly move up if it meant moving both their 1st rounders this year for a guy like Fantilli
I think his goalscoring endeavours is actually hurting his team. What is his GSAA?
Corby78
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I'm honestly not as high on Michkov. It may be a couple years before he is over here (vs some of the other top guys) and if we are looking for a quick retool, he doesn't fit that mold. He also doesn't seem to be as NHL ready as others. Looking at a lot of mock drafts and draft rankings, I have a feeling he will drop to around 6-8 anyway. So if I'm sitting at 3 and I want Michkov I'm probably rolling the dice and seeing if I can trade down a couple spots. But if we are sitting at 3, I'm taking the best guy not Michkov and getting help now.
But I'm not in the game so what do I know.
I think it’s very clearly a top 6 for sure. Maybe Reinbacher sneaks in but I think if you’re in the top 6, you better stay within that group. Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Benson, Smith.
I do think Michkov could drop though. If we’re at 9 and he makes it…oooh boy
I do think Michkov could drop though. If we’re at 9 and he makes it…oooh boy
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As it now stands, the Caps will either pick 8-10 or if the lottery gods are kind, pick 1 or 2. Don’t believe any other scenario is in play.
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Probably pick #9 but I'll shit myself if they get 1 or 2
Langway
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I don't think I have the vocabulary to adequately describe how pissed I'll be if they have anything other than 1 and Michkov is still on the board and they go with someone else
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If the Caps completely mail it in tonight, it helps Red Tank and also makes PIT's life harder. So the Caps will win by three.
Michkov will likely end up being like a Kaprizov type player. Really good but i want a center like Carlsson/Fantili if we get the #2 pick.
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Obviously we're not making decisions, but my humble take is that not picking Michkov even at #4 would be completely idiotic and there is zero chance he slips to 8 or 9 OA.
Immediate help is far easier to get in the FA market or a trade, not in the draft. Top 3 picks specifically are used on players who are expected to be a part of the core of for a decade+, and the Caps may very well not have a pick that high for years to come (like the Wings, who've sucked for years and had no top 3 picks) because if their retooling strategy. Passing on a likely better player because we may have a coupla more sucky years with some other guy (be real, Carlsson or Fantilli aren't going to make this team contenders or anything right away) seems like a high risk, low reward idea for me.
Corby78
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Maybe right, I just don't see Michkov as on par as Bedard (as some have), and I think the other top guys in this draft are just as good. Maybe I've got Semin/Kuzy brain and I'm worried we won't get a full 2 way player that cares. I definitely wouldn't pass up on him if he is there at 8, he is a better talent then the guys who would be left.
But even at 8 I think we are getting a shot at a good player. Would immediately be our highest rated prospect.
Yeah Michkov is incredibly skilled etc but i do think there's a bit of Semin/Kuzy vibes about him. Loves the puck a bit too much which isn't necessarily a bad thing but can be.
Langway
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Michkov's biggest issue is being pretty short. He's fairly direct and efficient on the puck. Creative but not so much cute or fancy for the sake of it. Defense could be an issue to some extent given the lack of size. But he's a winger so you're adding him for the gamebreaking offense anyway.
It's been 20 years since a defenseman didn't go top 6 IINM. You wonder if a team won't talk themselves into Reinbacher early, pushing someone else down. He'll be at the World Championships competing against men. He put up historically strong production as a DY player in the Swiss league. Big right shot D. Any of the #5-7 teams could be a fit. So if not Michkov the Caps may have a shot at Smith, Benson or Moore. I wonder if Benson doesn't return in the WHL playoffs for Winnipeg if it may seed enough doubt for teams to opt elsewhere and for him to slide.
It's been 20 years since a defenseman didn't go top 6 IINM. You wonder if a team won't talk themselves into Reinbacher early, pushing someone else down. He'll be at the World Championships competing against men. He put up historically strong production as a DY player in the Swiss league. Big right shot D. Any of the #5-7 teams could be a fit. So if not Michkov the Caps may have a shot at Smith, Benson or Moore. I wonder if Benson doesn't return in the WHL playoffs for Winnipeg if it may seed enough doubt for teams to opt elsewhere and for him to slide.
Not sure I'm buying the not high on Michkov stuff lol...if he was playing in the WHL he'd probably be outscoring Bedard. I still think Bedard is the more complete future player but it basically takes the turn of a Crosby vs Ovi debate when comparing the two and their talents. I think whoever has the #2 and possibly #3 pick...and they pass on him for Fantilli and Carlsson will look back and regret it one day.
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That’s unfortunately exactly the type of player that needs to be side saddled to Backstrom from here on out to make him bearable, but I want that franchise C myself.
