Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

[Richard88]

Backlund would be more CMac's style than Kadri (too much term for an aging player) or Lindholm (expensive pending UFA).

By contrast Backlund has manageable term at a manageable caphit (2x$4.5m after this season). We also know the Avs kicked tyres on him this past off-season before settling for the RyJo deal.

 

[Frenchy]

Well well well...

That's all on Kadri and his agent , he won the cup and wanted to cash in and he did ... now he's paying the price. All he had to do was to be reasonnable in his demands back then and both Him and Avs would have won. Now Both parties are in a situation where they are not confortable with what they have. All Kadri had to do back then, was to take shorter deal and the Avs wouldnt be looking for a 2C , win win .

 

[Hasbro]

Naz has more heart in his left but cheek than Johansen does in his entire body.

I’d take him back in a heartbeat, but you’d need some retention from Calgary.

Eating up one of three retention slots for six years is a big ask.

 

[Ararana]

Go get Kadri back or go get Lindholm.

IMO this is the one chance the Avs have for one last shot at another cup with this group, and it has to be this year. Obviously Lindholm would be better than Kadri but go get either of those guys and the 5v5 offensive threat from the second line just grew exponentially. Not to mention, RyJo as 3C is the perfect fit for him making the third line even better and pushing the right guys down to the 4th line.

1st + Girard + Ritchie + for a rental Lindholm or Kadri with some retention. It might be an overpay but the Avs are in Hail Mary territory now.

Center depth of MacKinnon-Lindholm/Kadri-RyJo, move Colton to the wing and bring in a rental D to replace Girard.

I'd trade Bo for a 2C, but I'd want someone younger and under team control for longer. I don't think Bo is fetching that for the Avs right now. And this year I do think Bo helps the Avs try to win a cup quite a bit more than Girard does.

 

[Mighty Makar]

A 1st, Girard and Ritchie for Kadri? No thanks.

 

[Grigowski]

Eating up one of three retention slots for six years is a big ask.

If they want to get rid of either Kadri or Huberdeau, they have no choice. And Kadri is more likely to to manage and get traded.

They made their bed with those signings, now they have to sleep in it. The same way MacFarland has.

One slot will be booked bei either Kadri, or Huberdeau.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Backlund would be more CMac's style than Kadri (too much term for an aging player) or Lindholm (expensive pending UFA).

By contrast Backlund has manageable term at a manageable caphit (2x$4.5m after this season). We also know the Avs kicked tyres on him this past off-season before settling for the RyJo deal.

Yeah but he was just named their captain so not sure he is available for that reason alone

 

[Pokecheque]

Forget Kadri go get Lindholm

It’s a rental then. No way can the Avs fit him under the cap after this season.

 

[the_fan]

It’s a rental then. No way can the Avs fit him under the cap after this season.

Trade Girard, get rid of MacDermid etc.. should free up enough cap space to resign Lindholm 7x7 and never worry about 2C again

 

[Gumballhead]

Trade Girard, get rid of MacDermid etc.. should free up enough cap space to resign Lindholm 7x7 and never worry about 2C again

Whoa, is Lindholm a vampire? In that case, let the right one in.

 

[sethro109]

Trade Girard, get rid of MacDermid etc.. should free up enough cap space to resign Lindholm 7x7 and never worry about 2C again

Lindholm is already 28. This is his payday contract. I'd be surprised if he signed for so little.

 

[henchman21]

It is rumored that Lindholm's ask is Horvat + .5m AAV. Which is 8 years, $72m or 9m AAV.

 

[Chiarelli]

Backlund would be more CMac's style than Kadri (too much term for an aging player) or Lindholm (expensive pending UFA).

By contrast Backlund has manageable term at a manageable caphit (2x$4.5m after this season). We also know the Avs kicked tyres on him this past off-season before settling for the RyJo deal.

then he got an extension and named captain. Not sure it makes sense anymore

 

[Chiarelli]

The NHL has really created a you can't have your cake and eat it too situation with player salaries and winning in the cap era.
There are a few exceptions but generally if you want to get paid you are going to a shitty team or making your team shittier. I guess that's the point and to keep movement of players and teams in the standings.

 

[NateTheGreat]

I’d be more than okay trading G for Lindholm as a pure rental if for nothing else than getting off G’s contract which is looking worse and worse by the game quite frankly.

It gives us a better chance to win this year and potentially also next year depending how we use the cap space from letting Lindholm walk and not having a 5M undersized D-man producing no points on the books.

 

[the_fan]

It is rumored that Lindholm's ask is Horvat + .5m AAV. Which is 8 years, $72m or 9m AAV.

He’s not gonna get 9 after the season he’s gonna have this year

 

[henchman21]

The NHL has really created a you can't have your cake and eat it too situation with player salaries and winning in the cap era.
There are a few exceptions but generally if you want to get paid you are going to a shitty team or making your team shittier. I guess that's the point and to keep movement of players and teams in the standings.

Yeah the whole idea is parity... Toronto would gladly spend $130m if they were allowed to and they'd basically have a team of big names (and still exit in the first round).

With the cap world, you really need to win with your main players on ELCs or their 2nd contract. It is very hard (not impossible though) to get excess value once players get to their 3rd and 4th contracts. Then by the time the players are finally paid what they are worth, they start regressing in ability.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Naz has more heart in his left but cheek than Johansen does in his entire body.

I’d take him back in a heartbeat, but you’d need some retention from Calgary.

Lindholm would be great obviously. Cost is a concern there.

Who was your anatomy teacher exactly?

 

[Ararana]

Trade Girard, get rid of MacDermid etc.. should free up enough cap space to resign Lindholm 7x7 and never worry about 2C again

The Avs are 100% going to try to bring Landeskog back. They can't afford Lindholm next year now that Toews is extended. They prioritized keeping Cale's buddy around going forward over getting a proper 2C.

And that decision closes the window so much faster.

 

[henchman21]

He’s not gonna get 9 after the season he’s gonna have this year

He's going to get damn close if he doesn't reach $9m. He could put up just 50 points this year and still get paid. Benefits of being an under 30 center who has production and 2 way play to his name. The only more valuable UFA out there is Nylander.

 

[Muffin]

He's going to get damn close if he doesn't reach $9m. He could put up just 50 points this year and still get paid. Benefits of being an under 30 center who has production and 2 way play to his name. The only more valuable UFA out there is Nylander.

We can make it work, that's just Girard and Ryjo's cap hit.

 

[John Mandalorian]

If they want to get rid of either Kadri or Huberdeau, they have no choice. And Kadri is more likely to to manage and get traded.

They made their bed with those signings, now they have to sleep in it. The same way MacFarland has.

One slot will be booked bei either Kadri, or Huberdeau.

What an exodus. Lindholm, Hanifin, Kadri, Tanev, Zadorov, and also Huberdeau?

 

[henchman21]

We can make it work, that's just Girard and Ryjo's cap hit.

Landy 7.0 - MacK 12.6 - Rants 9.25
Lehky 4.5 - Lindholm 9.0 - Nuke 6.125
Wood 2.5 - Colton 4.0 - LOC 1.05
____-____-____

Toews 7.25 - Makar 9.0
Byram 3.85 - Manson 4.5
___-___

George 3.5
____

That's 84.125m on a cap of 87.5 (at the high end). League minimum is 775k and 6 spots is 4.65m... so that would be a cap hit of 88.775m. You gotta cut one more guy (not LOC) and replace cheaply.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Landy 7.0 - MacK 12.6 - Rants 9.25
Lehky 4.5 - Lindholm 9.0 - Nuke 6.125
Wood 2.5 - Colton 4.0 - LOC 1.05
____-____-____

Toews 7.25 - Makar 9.0
Byram 3.85 - Manson 4.5
___-___

George 3.5
____

That's 84.125m on a cap of 87.5 (at the high end). League minimum is 775k and 6 spots is 4.65m... so that would be a cap hit of 88.775m. You gotta cut one more guy (not LOC) and replace cheaply.

Manson. Duh.

 

[henchman21]

Manson. Duh.

He’d be an obvious one but will cost to get rid of… and your basically then running 3/6 on the defense at or near league minimum… that bottom 4 would be brutal