Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Part Deux

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

What farm?

Old McDonald’s?

 

[redacted]

Old McDonald’s?

We already sent Jacob to the land of needles and broken car windows.

 

[BobRossColton]

Broberg granted permission to seek trade.


How about OO for broberg? That way we have another D man than could replace Girard/Bo/Manson.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Piggybacking off a post I made in the weekly thread... If the Avs went with this roster for next year:


Landy - Mack - Mikko
Lehky - ???? - Nuke
Wood - Colton - Kovalenko
Cogs* - Olofsson* - LOC


Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Johnson*

George
Prosvetov



And if we assume Cogs, Olofsson, and Johnson are league minimum $800k deals(or other players around the league) while Prosvetov is $900k, that roster would come in at ~$84.25M leaving them with ~$3.5M for the 2C slot while icing just a 20 man roster.



If they moved G and replaced him with a ~$1.5M bottom pairing PMD type, they could have up to $7M for a 2C or say $5-5.5M for a 2C and the ability to run a 21-22 man roster.




Obviously a lot of things would have to happen though. They'd have to trade a Dman, G or Manson. And they'd have to find a way to dump RyJo without taking salary back at all


But it does feel like there's an avenue to getting a legit 2C for $5Mish even with Landy returning. The question is whether our management is willing to make such significant moves and pay the necessary prices.

 

[redacted]

There is always a way to make the cap work... motivation and willingness to depart with assets is a major question.

At the rate RyJo is going, it will be very hard to get rid of him with no salary coming back. You're essentially asking teams to take on $4m for a year or $2.7m in cash and 1.3m in cap hit for two years. I'd say odds are higher the Avs just buy him out.

 

[The Abusement Park]

CMac should have traded the farm for a 2C so we could have spent this season griping about lack of futures and poor long term vision instead of possibly not winning the president's trophy this year.

I mean I think that sounds like a good idea. Contention windows are finite so may as well give your team the best shot.

 

[AslanRH]

I mean I think that sounds like a good idea. Contention windows are finite so may as well give your team the best shot.

Don't disagree with either of the approaches to organizational management.
Was more of a comment of my experience on this board over the years.
Some folks on each side of the aisle, and some, more vocal, are never satisfied.

 

[redacted]

Don't disagree with either of the approaches to organizational management.
Was more of a comment of my experience on this board over the years.
Some folks on each side of the aisle, and some, more vocal, are never satisfied.

And some bootlick every decision the org makes.

We're basically describing and sports forum... and the age old debates that go along with them. Any decision will be scrutinized or praised. Some people are wildly optimistic at all times. Some are overly negative. In the end, we all just waste time while giving a break to our genitals.

 

[Balthazar]

There is always a way to make the cap work... motivation and willingness to depart with assets is a major question.

At the rate RyJo is going, it will be very hard to get rid of him with no salary coming back. You're essentially asking teams to take on $4m for a year or $2.7m in cash and 1.3m in cap hit for two years. I'd say odds are higher the Avs just buy him out.

Buying him out would look very bad. Odds are higher that they just keep him for 2 years IMO.

 

[LOFIN]

Buying him out would look very bad. Odds are higher that they just keep him for 2 years IMO.

Yeah they either keep him or upgrade over him via trade that also sends him away. But a buyout is not going to happen.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Buying him out would look very bad. Odds are higher that they just keep him for 2 years IMO.

I don’t see how that’d be a bad look. Dude was an obvious reclamation project. And Nashville probably was thinking about buying him out themselves.

 

[AslanRH]

Buying him out would look very bad. Odds are higher that they just keep him for 2 years IMO.

Why? he didn't have trade protection to waive, so he didn't do the Avs any favor there.
The way Nashville is going lately he may have been this season's buyout anyway.

 

[Balthazar]

I don’t see how that’d be a bad look. Dude was an obvious reclamation project. And Nashville probably was thinking about buying him out themselves.

Why? he didn't have trade protection to waive, so he didn't do the Avs any favor there.
The way Nashville is going lately he may have been this season's buyout anyway.

Because teams don't take cap dumps for free and then buy them out

 

[The Abusement Park]

Because teams don't take cap dumps for free and then buy them out

If its not working there’s no reason not too assuming we’d have to pay to move him.

 

[LOFIN]

If its not working there’s no reason not too assuming we’d have to pay to move him.

Even if we had to pay to move him, it doubt it would be that big of a cost. It's 1 year at 4 million. I think we would rather get rid of the full salary.

I know it's not the greatest comparison because Chicago actually had to get some bodies and gain cap, but they paid a 5th to acquire Beauvillier. He's a UFA with a 4 million cap hit. Maybe we would have to pay someone to pick RyJo, but I doubt the asset cost would be so high that the Avs would rather buy him out and deal with the dead cap.

Assuming they even would want to get rid of him. If they don't replace him before the deadline, I wouldn't be surprised if they just roll the dice with him again. "Can't be that bad, right?"

 

[sethro109]

Wouldn't retaining 50% and trading him work better cap wise?

 

[AllAboutAvs]

If Provy has a very strong year George could also be used in the offseason as a piece to get us a better 2C.

 

[Balthazar]

Wouldn't retaining 50% and trading him work better cap wise?

2M for 1 year (trade) vs 1.33M per for 2 years (buyout)

Either way, it hurts a lot

 

[The Abusement Park]

Even if we had to pay to move him, it doubt it would be that big of a cost. It's 1 year at 4 million. I think we would rather get rid of the full salary.

Obviously move him first if you can, but if no one takes him there’s nothing wrong with a buyout.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

It would cost a 1st to move RyJo during this season.

Might get away with like a 2nd + 5th next summer.

 

[LOFIN]

If Provy has a very strong year George could also be used in the offseason as a piece to get us a better 2C.

With his current stats and play? Yeah...

There's basically two players on the roster you can use to acquire that 2nd C, Byram and Girard. Girard is unavailable now, and I'm not giving up Byram this year when he's playing on a relatively good contract. And you would have to replace either of them anyways, I think we can all expect that despite not having a timeline, Sammy will be back.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

If Provy has a very strong year George could also be used in the offseason as a piece to get us a better 2C.

Prosvetov would basically have to have such a strong year that he basically gets the same money as Georgiev now.

Tbh I really don't think Goaltending is an area they can afford to save any more space.


The defense and on the wing is the two ares they can create space to get a real 2C. Particularly defense right now. Whether it's Girard, Manson, or Byram. They could move at least one of those guys, maybe even 2 of them, replace them with $1.5-2.5M Dmen and create anywhere from $2-6M in additional cap space to spend at 2C along with the ~$3M they realistically already have(Assuming they outright dump RyJo and don't buy him out).

 

[nammerus]

I'm not talking to him but I still see his posts. It is way too entertaining to see him show up as soon as the Avs lose. I have this picture in my head of nammerus watching the games. He sits at his computer, drooling, his hands above the keyboard and waiting anxiously for the Avs to blow the game. When they do he starts yelling "Finally. That's my cue. That's my cue. Here I go!!!!!!!!"

Brings a nice balance to all the posters here on their knees for Cmac. Gotta have the ying with the yang.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Prosvetov would basically have to have such a strong year that he basically gets the same money as Georgiev now.

Tbh I really don't think Goaltending is an area they can afford to save any more space.


The defense and on the wing is the two ares they can create space to get a real 2C. Particularly defense right now. Whether it's Girard, Manson, or Byram. They could move at least one of those guys, maybe even 2 of them, replace them with $1.5-2.5M Dmen and create anywhere from $2-6M in additional cap space to spend at 2C along with the ~$3M they realistically already have(Assuming they outright dump RyJo and don't buy him out).

I wasn't talking about saving money. Even if you give the same contract to Provy you can use George as a piece in a trade with something else to get a pretty good 2C. If the other piece is a pick or good prospect obviouly we need to trade a roster player to fit that new 2C on the roster. But I agree that we can't go much lower than we are paying right now on goalies.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Prosvetov would basically have to have such a strong year that he basically gets the same money as Georgiev now.

Tbh I really don't think Goaltending is an area they can afford to save any more space.


The defense and on the wing is the two ares they can create space to get a real 2C. Particularly defense right now. Whether it's Girard, Manson, or Byram. They could move at least one of those guys, maybe even 2 of them, replace them with $1.5-2.5M Dmen and create anywhere from $2-6M in additional cap space to spend at 2C along with the ~$3M they realistically already have(Assuming they outright dump RyJo and don't buy him out).

Please be Manson. Please be Manson. Please be Manson. Please be Manson. Please be Manson. Please be Manson. Please be Manson. Please be Manson.