Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Part Deux

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You've decided that Kovalenko was a full time NHLer without watching him play one game in the league.

You've decided that Landy wasn't coming back.

You've decided that we got rid of Girard without having to take a contract back.

Can you name the 6 (!!!!) NHL caliber players making 950k in your lineup? 950k in a 92M cap world no less.

Well right now we have:

O'Connor- 1.05m
Drouin- 825k
Cogliano- 825k
Kiviranta- 775k
Olofsson- 775k
Johnson- 775k
Jones- 775k
Malinski- 850k

Considering we have 8 guys making near league minimum tonight I'm pretty sure it won't be hard to find cheap 4th liners and bottom pair dmen.

And yes, trade Girard for futures to get rid of his contract.
 
Our top 6 is so f***ing bad.

Mack, Rants and the whole 2nd line are bad. Makar was the only reason we could win some games. Literally.

Missing lehkonen is a tough one. Johansen isn’t working either, couple tweaks and we will be fine. Landeskog is coming back for playoffs bookmark it.
 
Love watching Cmac making the team worse each year. Can’t wait to see what he has in store next off-season.
 
Throw the kitchen sink at Jenner and Peeke.. Byram + OO + 1st + w/e

Get a real leader in the locker room. Clearly lacking ever since Landy's been out.
This team doesn't need a "real leader" in the locker room. They need talent.

The third and fourth lines work their tails off but have pretty much zero talent.

Drouin is a 22-point pace sub-900K 2nd line winger right now, while Tomas Tatar and Ryan Johansen collectively stink worse than a double decker shit session after Taco Tuesday at Taco Bell.

They need Lehkonen back in the worst way, and they need a proper 2nd line centre.

If CMac wanted to, he could swing a trade with Calgary involving Johansen and whatever picks/prospects it'd take to snag Elias Lindholm. We know the guy is available, that's been publicly known since last Summer.

Unfortunately, I think we have to accept Johansen is this team's 2nd line centre until the 24-25 season at the earliest. They've hitched their wagon to him, even if Bednar doesn't seem to like him much.
 
They've hitched their wagon to him, even if Bednar doesn't seem to like him much.

If he doesnt like him, maybe he should have said this before we made the "trade" with Nashville.

If we dont get a capable 2nd line center, this will be another 1st round-out next year. Book it.
 
Love watching Cmac making the team worse each year. Can’t wait to see what he has in store next off-season.
Should've just buried the hatchet with ROR. Any fears about his skating ability should be silenced after being forced to watch RyJo in this system.
 
If he doesnt like him, maybe he should have said this before we made the "trade" with Nashville.

If we dont get a capable 2nd line center, this will be another 1st round-out next year. Book it.
I dont think it was Bednars choice to have Ryjo at 2C.
 
Yeah, the issue isn't just second line center but second line quality is meh too.
Correct the whole 2nd line is the problem. All the other lines function in their roles just fine.

The 2nd line is horseshit and absolutely killing any offense flow the entire lineup has.

The 1st line needs some offensive protection from 2 to be useful and they aren't getting it.

Even last year JTC managed 50 pts. None of our current 2nd liners are even remotely on that pace.

Right now our best forward outside of the 1st line, Colton, is pacing out at around 41 pts. RyJo is at a 34 pts pace, Tatar about 30 pts pace, Drouin 21 pts pace.

Last year Compher, Lehk, Nuke, ERod all over 40 pts pace. This year we have 1 non-first liner at that pace. That's not good and we are kind of f***ed.

You want to know the real reason 29 and 96 are struggling, they have absolutely no help on offense outside of Nuke. So other teams are just playing our 1st line super tight then taking 3 straight shifts off, gearing up for another hard shift on our 1st line.

CMac's bargain bin 2nd line experiment has failed and I sure as hell hope he has a plan B. Because it's completely f***ing this team and is ultimately going to be another wasted year.
 
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Correct the whole 2nd line is the problem. All the other lines function in their roles just fine.

The 2nd line is horseshit and absolutely killing any offense flow the entire lineup has.

The 1st line needs some offensive protection from 2 to be useful and they aren't getting it.

Even last year JTC managed 50 pts. None of our current 2nd liners are even remotely on that pace.

Right now our best forward outside of the 1st line, Colton, is pacing out at around 41 pts. RyJo is at a 34 pts pace, Tatar about 30 pts pace, Drouin 21 pts pace.

Last year Compher, Lehk, Nuke, ERod all over 40 pts pace. This year we have 1 non-first liner at that pace. That's not good and we are kind of f***ed.

You want to know the real reason 29 and 96 are struggling, they have absolutely no help on offense outside of Nuke. So other teams are just playing our 1st line super tight then taking 3 straight shifts off, gearing up for another hard shift on our 1st line.

CMac's bargain bin 2nd line experiment has failed and I sure as hell hope he has a plan B. Because it's completely f***ing this team and is ultimately going to be another wasted year.
You can't point to Compher's totals last season when he played a huge amount of time with Rantanen.
 
This team doesn't need a "real leader" in the locker room. They need talent.

The third and fourth lines work their tails off but have pretty much zero talent.

Drouin is a 22-point pace sub-900K 2nd line winger right now, while Tomas Tatar and Ryan Johansen collectively stink worse than a double decker shit session after Taco Tuesday at Taco Bell.

They need Lehkonen back in the worst way, and they need a proper 2nd line centre.

If CMac wanted to, he could swing a trade with Calgary involving Johansen and whatever picks/prospects it'd take to snag Elias Lindholm. We know the guy is available, that's been publicly known since last Summer.

Unfortunately, I think we have to accept Johansen is this team's 2nd line centre until the 24-25 season at the earliest. They've hitched their wagon to him, even if Bednar doesn't seem to like him much.

Yup... talent is the real issue and there just isn't enough on the 2nd line. Bednar has his top line safety blanket, which leaves the 2nd line a complete crapshoot of guys who used to do good things. Colton for all of his skills, isn't a 2C either. If he had more talent, he might be a nice option... but it just isn't there.

I don't think it is that the coaches don't like RyJo as much as they know RyJo can't play they way they need him to. He's not a high motor or effort guy... he's not a swift skater. That means he's limited and Bednar doesn't like adjusting his system to adapt to the talent (unless your MacK or Rants). The easiest way to hide that is just not play him as much.

For this regular season, I really don't think it will hurt all that much. Avs have a soft schedule (one of the softest in the league) and the stars can doe enough, especially with the minutes that Bednar will play them, that it can be covered up. Where this will really be exposed is over a series in the playoffs. Especially if the Avs don't jump out to big leads. We're talking 7 games in 12/13 days where if they can't run through normal lines, teams can adjust and attack. You get an OT game or two in there, typically the deeper team recovers better. Say you face a 6/7 game round in the first round, then move into a 2nd round where the test is likely tougher and you're stressing this weakness more and more. There is likely a breaking point to that and that is what the Avs need to avoid. Add to this injuries and the margin for error is just so small.
 
In the playoffs if your stars have to carry your depth you're cooked. Doesn't matter how good they are, even the very best can't do it.

The depth needs to help the stars.

It's always better to have more depth and fewer stars than the opposite.
 
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In the playoffs if your stars have to carry your depth you're cooked. Doesn't matter how good they are, even the very best can't do it.

The depth needs to help the stars.

It's always better to have more depth and fewer stars than the opposite.
You really need both… but that’s why it is very hard to win over long periods of time in this era. Stars end up getting paid, take money away from the depth, and then later draft picks/trades eat away at the replacement talent.
 
Yup... talent is the real issue and there just isn't enough on the 2nd line. Bednar has his top line safety blanket, which leaves the 2nd line a complete crapshoot of guys who used to do good things. Colton for all of his skills, isn't a 2C either. If he had more talent, he might be a nice option... but it just isn't there.

I don't think it is that the coaches don't like RyJo as much as they know RyJo can't play they way they need him to. He's not a high motor or effort guy... he's not a swift skater. That means he's limited and Bednar doesn't like adjusting his system to adapt to the talent (unless your MacK or Rants). The easiest way to hide that is just not play him as much.

For this regular season, I really don't think it will hurt all that much. Avs have a soft schedule (one of the softest in the league) and the stars can doe enough, especially with the minutes that Bednar will play them, that it can be covered up. Where this will really be exposed is over a series in the playoffs. Especially if the Avs don't jump out to big leads. We're talking 7 games in 12/13 days where if they can't run through normal lines, teams can adjust and attack. You get an OT game or two in there, typically the deeper team recovers better. Say you face a 6/7 game round in the first round, then move into a 2nd round where the test is likely tougher and you're stressing this weakness more and more. There is likely a breaking point to that and that is what the Avs need to avoid. Add to this injuries and the margin for error is just so small.
Makes you wonder who is in charge.
 
Just find a good 2C from one of the bottom teams that won’t cost way too much and you can resign or keep

Monahan
Jenner

Just a couple I can think of
 
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