Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Part Deux

[Vaslof]

Guys...Cmac isn't looking for a 2C.

I wasn't around when we had Duchene, MacKinnon, ROR and Stastny, but I wouldn't be surprised if you told me people were demanding new centers even back then.

 

[henchman21]

But don't we create a roster issue if we trade Byram?

We can quit the trade Byram talk now. It's not happening.

Assuming G comes back (and he will), no not really. Teams don't need 4 legit top 4 guys nor do they need 3 top pairing guys to contend. Avs have a luxury on the back end of the lineup that is causing holes elsewhere that have to be patched with risky options.

I don't think it will happen, but Byram isn't untouchable. He was almost traded before and if the Avs fail, he's the big piece that can be moved.

 

[AvStock]

I know it’s not realistic but the only way I trade Byram is if Vancouver blows up and gets rid of Petterson

 

[Balthazar]

I wasn't around when we had Duchene, MacKinnon, ROR and Stastny, but I wouldn't be surprised if you told me people were demanding new centers even back then.

No back then we were (rightfully) looking for D.

 

[henchman21]

I know it’s not realistic but the only way I trade Byram is if Vancouver blows up and gets rid of Petterson

This is where the hype of Byram just doesn't match the reality.

 

[JH21]

Assuming G comes back (and he will), no not really. Teams don't need 4 legit top 4 guys nor do they need 3 top pairing guys to contend. Avs have a luxury on the back end of the lineup that is causing holes elsewhere that have to be patched with risky options.

I don't think it will happen, but Byram isn't untouchable. He was almost traded before and if the Avs fail, he's the big piece that can be moved.

When was Byram almost traded?

Also, since when do teams not need 3 legit Dmen? Just because other teams don't have our depth doesn't mean it isn't needed.

3 or 4 guys who can play 20+ minutes a night is such an advantage. Or we can be the Oilers and have a team full of guys who can't defend at all.

 

[henchman21]

When was Byram almost traded?

Also, since when do teams not need 3 legit Dmen? Just because other teams don't have our depth doesn't mean it isn't needed.

3 or 4 guys who can play 20+ minutes a night is such an advantage. Or we can be the Oilers and have a team full of guys who can't defend at all.

For Connor a few years ago.

With G they have the 3 guys who can play 20+ minutes a night.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think you mean Girard... but the Avs aren't making a big move tomorrow or likely even this season. Byram has the best mix of value and expendability to solve any major roster issues... that really means he should be the one moved if a big move is needed.

Yeah, I edited to fix Byram to Girard.

I agree Byram should in theory have the most value but you can't trade that guy even if you wanted to address 2C this season. The defense would be in shambles.

 

[Hasbro]

Why does he care so much about penmanship?

 

[henchman21]

Yeah, I edited to fix Byram to Girard.

I agree Byram should in theory have the most value but you can't trade that guy even if you wanted to address 2C this season. The defense would be in shambles.

I'm in the camp that pretty much outside of RyJo banging Makar's mom, the 2C role won't be addressed this season and any move would be in the summer.

 

[Pokecheque]

There's no 'joking' about it... that's probably the play that the Avs need to find a way to get done.

Would solve a lot of issues as far as the #2C position goes for 6 years. I don't see how the wild do that without Byram going the other way. That's probably also with a Byram playing better than he has been for the last 10-12 games because he hasn't been good for that stretch.

The other one is getting Brock Nelson from the Islanders. With that one, you can still keep your Ritchie for #2C in 2 years plan as it would be unlikely the Avs re-signed Nelson when his contract is up at age 34 but you get him for two runs.

I think the Avs would keep Ryjo in either case for depth. It would give them options as far as the #3C and shifting either Colton, Nelson or Ryjo to wing.

In both cases, neither the wild or the islanders look like they are in a position to do much damage as far as contending at this time. I don't think hynes makes much of a difference for minnesota, in fact, I think he's horrible and they've absolutely downgraded from that crybaby evason.

Manson has been MUCH better the past 3 games and if he can keep up that level of play, you absolutely keep him. You don't have much choice if you're actually trading Byram anyhow.

The cap hit difference from JEE/Nelson to Byram is roughly the Francouz LTIR contract.

Then the Avs could look adding an impending UFA d-man at the TDL for their Cup run.

It’s a nice pipe dream but the Wylde are not ever parting with Eriksson Ek unless they’re blowing the whole damned thing up, and we know they ain’t gonna do that.

They’re a team dealing with a humongous dead cap hit and that’s one of the very few cost-controlled deals they have on the books.

 

[Avs_19]

I don't think Kane moves the needle much these days, just in terms of name value. He looked terrible recently and I doubt coming off hip surgery at the age of 35 will make that much better.

 

[henchman21]

I don't think Kane moves the needle much these days, just in terms of name value. He looked terrible recently and I doubt coming off hip surgery at the age of 35 will make that much better.

IMO in Detroit he will fit very well and improve them a good amount. They are a team that kinda went the Seattle model of loading up depth to push them up. Kane adds skill to that plethora of middle of the line up depth. Here, where a bigger role is needed and expected (meaning he'd have to be a driver in the playoffs), he's just not suited to that role anymore.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[JH21]

For Connor a few years ago.

With G they have the 3 guys who can play 20+ minutes a night.

That depends if you think Girard does anything of value when he plays 20 minutes a night.

 

[henchman21]

That depends if you think Girard does anything of value when he plays 20 minutes a night.

You might want to take a gander at Byram with and without G this year. Or how they stacked up last year.

 

[JH21]

You might want to take a gander at Byram with and without G this year. Or how they stacked up last year.

Let's see what our record will be with G out.

I don't think we will miss him one bit. He literally does nothing.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That depends if you think Girard does anything of value when he plays 20 minutes a night.

You say that as if Byram has been doing anything of value lately.

 

[AvStock]

That depends if you think Girard does anything of value when he plays 20 minutes a night.

G sucks

 

[JH21]

You say that as if Byram has been doing anything of value lately.

Good point

 

[the_fan]

I’m glad Avs didn’t get Kane. They can use whatever cap space they have at the trade deadline for better roster upgrades

 

[henchman21]

Let's see what our record will be with G out.

I don't think we will miss him one bit. He literally does nothing.

The Avs have been fine without Byram before too...

G sucks

You say this, but G has been the one keeping Byram afloat this season. Byram with G 55.78% xGF vs without G 46.56% xGF. Last season, the only two defensemen with worse advanced stats than Byram were Manson and Dermy. There is a lot of hate for G and a good amount of it is deserved... but he's actually performed at a higher level more consistently than Byram has. Byram certainly has more flash and upside, but the substance behind his play significantly lag behind the hype.

 

[Linds]

I wasn't around when we had Duchene, MacKinnon, ROR and Stastny, but I wouldn't be surprised if you told me people were demanding new centers even back then.

No we wanted D. The only actual d men we had was EJ and Barrie

 

[Linds]

If Minny keeps shitting the bed this year maybe they blow up that roster. JEE would fit like Trojan

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

If Minny keeps shutting the bed this year maybe they blow up that roster. JEE would fit like Trojan

JEE would be a dream. A healthy line of Landy-JEE-Lehkonen would be such a pain in the ass to play against.