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Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

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slippingsloth said:
So when killorn is back and Leo is in lineup…

Whats our forward group look like? Who gets pulled?


Killorn leo terry
Z mct strome
Vatrano Rico Silf
Leason carrick johnston

Jones/groulx rotate w silf/carrick/johnston?

How do u guys see them doing it? I am having trouble mixing killorn in a balanced way

Killorn leo terry
Vatrano mct strome
Leason Z rico
Silf carrick johnston

Z leo terry
Killorn mct strome
Vatrano rico silf
Leason carrick johnston
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What I would try

Vatrano-Carlsson-Terry
Henrique-McTavish-Strome
Killorn-Zegras-Leason
Jones-Carrick-Silfverberg/Groulx/Johnston
 
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MMC said:
What I would try

Vatrano-Carlsson-Terry
Henrique-McTavish-Strome
Killorn-Zegras-Leason
Jones-Carrick-Silfverberg/Groulx/Johnston
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Killorn at 6.25m and having career top 6 numbers, didn’t get his contract to come into a 3rd line roll. I agree that zegras should be at center though. No possible way Henrique is above killer in the lineup
 
robbieboy3686 said:
Killorn at 6.25m and having career top 6 numbers, didn’t get his contract to come into a 3rd line roll. I agree that zegras should be at center though. No possible way Henrique is above killer in the lineup
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I don't really care about the whole conventional 1st-2nd-3rd-4th line thing, just that we get all of our young players producing. This is the best way to get them all with wingers that can hopefully fit well on their lines while keeping them all at Center
 
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MMC said:
I don't really care about the whole conventional 1st-2nd-3rd-4th line thing, just that we get all of our young players producing. This is the best way to get them all with wingers that can hopefully fit well on their lines while keeping them all at Center
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I like the thought. I agree in principle. But his comments were basically the balance issue i had. Is Leason an appropriate wing for Z? Can z drive that line w killorn?
 
slippingsloth said:
I like the thought. I agree in principle. But his comments were basically the balance issue i had. Is Leason an appropriate wing for Z? Can z drive that line w killorn?
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All will be answered in due time, these aren't the lines I'm married to for the rest of the season, just what I'd start with when we have a full healthy group (aside from Lundy). Don't think you separate Carlsson and Terry and I'd like to see what they could do with a goalscorer like Vatrano. McTavish has had chemistry with Strome this year and had it with Henrique last year, hopefully it gets Henrique to start producing again. That leaves Zegras with Killorn and while Leason isn't the ideal option to complete that line he's probably the best we have right now. Hopefully one of Regenda, Nesterenko, Perreault, or Tracey can find a way into the top 9 by the end of the season.
 
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MMC said:
What I would try

Vatrano-Carlsson-Terry
Henrique-McTavish-Strome
Killorn-Zegras-Leason
Jones-Carrick-Silfverberg/Groulx/Johnston
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I could get behind that though I think I prefer we swap Rico and Vatrano back then balance out the minutes. I agree that you don't sign Killorn to 6.25 to give him 3rd line minutes.
 
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DavidBL said:
I could get behind that though I think I prefer we swap Rico and Vatrano back then balance out the minutes. I agree that you don't sign Killorn to 6.25 to give him 3rd line minutes.
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I could see a scenario where you have three lines all getting 15-16 minutes each with the extra going to whichever line is playing the best that night though.
 
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I'm interested in the idea of Zegras on the 3rd line once Killorn returns. But Leason and Henrique wouldn't be good enough for this to work imo. Based on who they have, I would run:

Killorn-Carlsson-Terry
Zegras-McTavish-Vatrano
Henrique-Carrick-Strome
Leason-Groulx-Silfverberg/Johnston/Jones
 
I would definitely staple Killorn to Leo when he's back. Killorn will be our best winger (with all due respect to Terry's skill). I would also like to try Zegras back at center but i think you need to have Silfverberg in that top 9 which is a bit of an anchor for a scoring line.

Killorn-Leo-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Silf
Henrique-Zegras-Strome (insulates Zegras with two guys who can play C, could flip Strome and Silf also.)

It's tough, one of these lines will need to have Silfverberg on it.

Johnston Carrick Leason Jones Groulx will be the remaining guys, PV will have a decision on who goes down, it could very well be Johnston or perhaps Vaaks on the backend. Luneau being another option if they want him back in juniors.
 
KaseMeOutside said:
Maybe it will be but I'm wondering if Verbeeks vision for the team includes multiple smaller dmen, or if he prefers bigger players
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Mmmm given he is on record as saying something along the lines of “ in the modern nhl you need to be big to be an affective dman due to all the new hooking penalties being called “ I would say he can’t wait for luneau hinds and warren and those types to develop fast enough. Now that minty and lacombe seem to be main stays already.

gilfaizon said:
I would definitely staple Killorn to Leo when he's back. Killorn will be our best winger (with all due respect to Terry's skill). I would also like to try Zegras back at center but i think you need to have Silfverberg in that top 9 which is a bit of an anchor for a scoring line.

Killorn-Leo-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Silf
Henrique-Zegras-Strome (insulates Zegras with two guys who can play C, could flip Strome and Silf also.)

It's tough, one of these lines will need to have Silfverberg on it.

Johnston Carrick Leason Jones Groulx will be the remaining guys, PV will have a decision on who goes down, it could very well be Johnston or perhaps Vaaks on the backend. Luneau being another option if they want him back in juniors.
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I don’t see how luneau sticks around this season. Hope he proves us wrong somehow.
 
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robbieboy3686 said:
Mmmm given his on record as saying something along the lines of “ in the modern nhl you need to be big to be an affective dman due to all the new hooking penalties being called “ I would say he can’t wait for luneau hinds and warren and those types to develop fast enough. Now that minty and lacombe seem to be main stays already.


I don’t see how luneau sticks around this season. Hope he proves us wrong somehow.
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Totally agree, its a matter of when.
 
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MMC said:
Clearly the staff feels he can learn more being surrounded with the NHL team and playing the occasional game until he hits his 9th than playing on the worst team in the Q
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Hopefully it puts pressure on his Q team to do the right thing for the player and trade him. If his Q team trades him we might see him get sent down soon.
 
MMC said:
Clearly the staff feels he can learn more being surrounded with the NHL team and playing the occasional game until he hits his 9th than playing on the worst team in the Q
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That's not really helpful insight since we all believe he'll be returned to his junior team.

I often thought that we'd be sending Luneau down, but since we're scarcely using him, not playing him to see his game on the ice, and keeping him after 8 games played births the thought Luneau could be staying with the Ducks all season, with the exception of sending him to the world juniors in December.

Luneau could also be on the same body strengthening and stamina program as Carlsson rather than playing often in the Q and not build his body as fast or at all. That could potentially help him regain that burst speed as well.
 
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I wouldn’t touch the 2nd line. They are playing off the charts.

I probably would keep the 4th line intact for now as they are playing well, and even contributing. And Leason is actually getting more physical.

It’s funny everyone on the 4th has been waived at some point on their career. I guess we could call it the Waiver Line.

John
 
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70sSanO said:
I wouldn’t touch the 2nd line. They are playing off the charts.

I probably would keep the 4th line intact for now as they are playing well, and even contributing. And Leason is actually getting more physical.

It’s funny everyone on the 4th has been waived at some point on their career. I guess we could call it the Waiver Line.

John
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Leason is basically playing with 2 body guards
 
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