Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

[Sean Garrity]

Ducks should give Luneau a shot soon and roll with 7 dmen that game ... Give him alot of PP time with limited 5 on 5 mins.

He's one of the young guys across the league that I am VERY curious to see how he does at this level

I think they will at some point soon, especially given the strong and confident showings from Lacombe and Minty early on. Both of those players haven't seemed like they needed a stay at home defenseman on the right side to cover up any significant deficiencies while they're confident.

 

[Rooch]

I couldn't watch the game last night. Do the Ducks have a captain this year?

Three dudes wearing the A: Terry, Rico, and Cam.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Three dudes wearing the A: Terry, Rico, and Cam.

Wonder how Silfverberg feels about being stripped of his A in the final season of his contract.

 

[Rooch]

Wonder how Silfverberg feels about being stripped of his A in the final season of his contract.

On the first day of training camp I noticed Silfverberg skating and initiating contact like it was his second or third year in the league. Looked fluid and confident. But last night he looked so slow and broken. Kind of sad to watch his deterioration.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

On the first day of training camp I noticed Silfverberg skating and initiating contact like it was his second or third year in the league. Looked fluid and confident. But last night he looked so slow and broken. Kind of sad to watch his deterioration.

For sure. He's not close to the player he used to be. That hip injury really sped up his decline.

 

[lwvs84]

On the first day of training camp I noticed Silfverberg skating and initiating contact like it was his second or third year in the league. Looked fluid and confident. But last night he looked so slow and broken. Kind of sad to watch his deterioration.

When the team is healthy, hopefully he's moved down to the 4th line and PK duties (and probably no more back to back games). With all the health issues he's had, Silf should be kept to limited duties.

 

[AngelDuck]

Henrique needs to get going soon. Been lousy the first 2 games. I wonder where they put him when Carlsson/Killorn are back. Don’t know where he fits exactly.

He’s an abysmal forechecker but has skill/IQ. I don’t like him with Zegras at all

 

[Gliff]

I still think resigning Silfverberg was the biggest mistake Bob made in the post-contending phase of the team.

They just finish bottom 8 in the league, their 2 franchise players either missed a season to injury or had the worst season of their career, with noone on their way to replace them. Basically the worst time very to give 40 point 3rd liners longterm deals. No matter how much we love the guy.

 

[All Mighty]

It’s fair to be skeptical of these types of stats, but it’s a very good sign that we just played 2 top teams and this site has us at 53% xGF. Our Corsi is in the toilet, but the discrepancy between Corsi and xGF suggests we give up a lot of low-danger shots. And to be fair, the Hurricanes are well-known for being Corsi merchants (they take a lot of perimeter/point shots).

 

[Sean Garrity]

Henrique needs to get going soon. Been lousy the first 2 games. I wonder where they put him when Carlsson/Killorn are back. Don’t know where he fits exactly.

He’s an abysmal forechecker but has skill/IQ. I don’t like him with Zegras at all

Rico will go soon enough. His versatility is still very valuable across the board. Top 4 in PK minutes, 2nd in FO%, assist, tied for the team lead in hits. The hate he gets is unreal lol.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I still think resigning Silfverberg was the biggest mistake Bob made in the post-contending phase of the team.

They just finish bottom 8 in the league, their 2 franchise players either missed a season to injury or had the worst season of their career, with noone on their way to replace them. Basically the worst time very to give 40 point 3rd liners longterm deals. No matter how much we love the guy.

I think it was more veteran layering to help with the youngsters coming up. Kinda like signing Gudas and Killorn b/c we kinda know that both Silf and Rico's days are numbered.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I think it was more veteran layering to help with the youngsters coming up. Kinda like signing Gudas and Killorn b/c we kinda know that both Silf and Rico's days are numbered.

Both are done. Last season with the ducks. Also, somehow someway fowler will be traded before his contract is up.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Both are done. Last season with the ducks. Also, somehow someway fowler will be traded before his contract is up.

I'm still not so sure, but talent wise he's going to be pressed on that left side very, very soon. However, with him, Lacombe, and Hinds being able to play the right side I think he may stay through it. It's a great situation to be in organizationally, Cam can continue to eat the hard minutes on the left side until the kids are ready.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It'll be interesting when everyone is healthy. Wonder if they may try something like:
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Killorn- Carlsson-Terry
Henrique-Zegras-??? (Jones/Silf?)

You have to put people that can keep up with zegras skill level. I think you have to have 1 of carlsson terry or killorn with zegras

Ducks should give Luneau a shot soon and roll with 7 dmen that game ... Give him alot of PP time with limited 5 on 5 mins.

He's one of the young guys across the league that I am VERY curious to see how he does at this level

Seemed like Cronin is planning on it…. so far Lacombe and Mintyukov have looked good…. Lybushkin has been the weak link…. But idk if the line up gets too soft/young if you throw luneau in for lybushkin(tho lacombe and Mintyukov have played physical in first 2 games )

 

[robbieboy3686]

I'm still not so sure, but talent wise he's going to be pressed on that left side very, very soon. However, with him, Lacombe, and Hinds being able to play the right side I think he may stay through it. It's a great situation to be in organizationally, Cam can continue to eat the hard minutes on the left side until the kids are ready.

Maybe you’re right. Maybe finally he will be able to play on a middle or even bottom pairing on a team friendly contract

You have to put people that can keep up with zegras skill level. I think you have to have 1 of carlsson terry or killorn with zegras


Seemed like Cronin is planning on it…. so far Lacombe and Mintyukov have looked good…. Lybushkin has been the weak link…. But idk if the line up gets too soft/young if you throw luneau in for lybushkin(tho lacombe and Mintyukov have played physical in first 2 games )

I would hope killorn can match well with zegras and that Mac and Terry find chemistry together. And eventually we spend money vía trade or free agency to get a match for carlsson

 

[AngelDuck]

Rico will go soon enough. His versatility is still very valuable across the board. Top 4 in PK minutes, 2nd in FO%, assist, tied for the team lead in hits. The hate he gets is unreal lol.

I don’t hate him at all, I simply am unsure where he fits with this group. Him and Zegras are both pretty poor at forechecking and winning battles. They need to be with people who can get them the puck. I actually wouldn’t mind this being tried

Zegras-Carlsson-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Killorn-Henrique-Jones

I wish we had an RW better than Silfverberg or Jones to play on the 3rd line. That could be Nesterenko spot soon IMO

It’s a bit frustrating that to a lot of people on this board when you point out that someone isn’t the greatest fit in their current spot it’s always “the hate this guy gets is absurd”.

I’ll clear the air here: I don’t think Cam Fowler or Adam Henrique are poor NHL players at all. I simply don’t know if they are the right fits on this roster moving forward considering what we have forming

 

[LePerilsofPerreault]

At least Silf is a smart player, hopefully they’ve learned some defensive tricks from him. And Leo too this year.

If I get to see Leo and Luneau debut Thursday i will be a happy lad.

 

[Sean Garrity]

I don’t hate him at all, I simply am unsure where he fits with this group. Him and Zegras are both pretty poor at forechecking and winning battles. They need to be with people who can get them the puck. I actually wouldn’t mind this being tried

Zegras-Carlsson-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Killorn-Henrique-Jones

I wish we had an RW better than Silfverberg or Jones to play on the 3rd line. That could be Nesterenko spot soon IMO

It’s a bit frustrating that to a lot of people on this board when you point out that someone isn’t the greatest fit in their current spot it’s always “the hate this guy gets is absurd”.

I’ll clear the air here: I don’t think Cam Fowler or Adam Henrique are poor NHL players at all. I simply don’t know if they are the right fits on this roster moving forward considering what we have forming

It's not rocket science, he fits in the top 9 on either the center or the wing and can slide up/down fairly seamlessly. Exactly why I said he's versatile. Your OP, and maybe I misinterpreted it, made it seem like he's hurting the team and he has to go soon, which would be nonsense. He's not in any shape or form hurting the team any way anyone spins it. Playing over his head, maybe.

 

[AngelDuck]

It's not rocket science, he fits in the top 9 on either the center or the wing and can slide up/down fairly seamlessly. Exactly why I said he's versatile. Your OP, and maybe I misinterpreted it, made it seem like he's hurting the team and he has to go soon, which would be nonsense. He's not in any shape or form hurting the team any way anyone spins it. Playing over his head, maybe.

I literally said in my OP “I don’t know where he fits exactly”. So probably misinterpreted

He’s not hurting the team but he needs to be with the right players to get the most out of him. I question if that spot is with Trevor Zegras

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Fowler is going nowhere with that trade clause of his unless we want to get screwed

 

[Sean Garrity]

I literally said in my OP “I don’t know where he fits exactly”. So probably misinterpreted

He’s not hurting the team but he needs to be with the right players to get the most out of him. I question if that spot is with Trevor Zegras

You also said "he needs to get going soon"... to which my reply was he'll be gone soon and the hate he gets is unwarranted due to his versatility, etc. He can slide up and down the top 9, play wing or center. Not sure how you can argue against what I said. His contract and productivity is still a bargain.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fowler is going nowhere with that trade clause of his unless we want to get screwed

If Mintyukov and lacombe show top 4 capabilities and you have hinds or zellweger knocking on the door it’s tough to care if we lose fowler in a year or 2.

The cap space will be more valuable than fowler at that point to our team. If we just keep him for sentimental sake that’s a bad move. But I imagine pv is going to do what’s best for the team…. And eventually that means moving on from guys like silf fowler and Henrique

 

[AngelDuck]

You also said "he needs to get going soon"... to which my reply was he'll be gone soon and the hate he gets is unwarranted due to his versatility, etc. He can slide up and down the top 9, play wing or center. Not sure how you can argue against what I said. His contract and productivity is still a bargain.

He needs to get going which means he needs to his game going soon, not get off this team.

I really don’t hate him and I don’t know why you think I do based off my posts

As far as his contract…it’s close enough to market value that I don’t really care about it. Bargain is a bit much probably

 

[robbieboy3686]

If Mintyukov and lacombe show top 4 capabilities and you have hinds or zellweger knocking on the door it’s tough to care if we lose fowler in a year or 2.

The cap space will be more valuable than fowler at that point to our team. If we just keep him for sentimental sake that’s a bad move. But I imagine pv is going to do what’s best for the team…. And eventually that means moving on from guys like silf fowler and Henrique

This

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I don’t hate him at all, I simply am unsure where he fits with this group. Him and Zegras are both pretty poor at forechecking and winning battles. They need to be with people who can get them the puck. I actually wouldn’t mind this being tried

Zegras-Carlsson-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Killorn-Henrique-Jones

I wish we had an RW better than Silfverberg or Jones to play on the 3rd line. That could be Nesterenko spot soon IMO

It’s a bit frustrating that to a lot of people on this board when you point out that someone isn’t the greatest fit in their current spot it’s always “the hate this guy gets is absurd”.

I’ll clear the air here: I don’t think Cam Fowler or Adam Henrique are poor NHL players at all. I simply don’t know if they are the right fits on this roster moving forward considering what we have forming

Why is there a need to rush things? Feels like a passive-aggressive post. Injuries happen all the time, especially to us. We're missing three starters before the season even started with Lundy, Killorn, and Carlsson. Strome had a bad year last year and looked bad to start the pre-season.

Potential setup without injuries and before the season started

Z-Carlsson-Terry
Rico-Mac-Killorn
Vatrano-Lundy-Strome
Jones-Groulx-Silf
Carrick, Leason

We're 1-1-0 (2 pts). We should be happy we have depth to absorb losing two top-6 players, but it's also a small sample.