Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

[Deuce22]

I'm curious to see if Cronin gives Dostal close to half the starts. Or if it's going to be business as usual with Gibson playing as much as he wants to.

 

[JohnnyDrama]

Lybushkin lowest ice time by a mile, does anyone think Luneau goes in for him tomorrow?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Lybushkin lowest ice time by a mile, does anyone think Luneau goes in for him tomorrow?

Does him being scratched count towards his 9 games ?
I'm hoping Luneau's QMJHL team trades him to another team so the Ducks can assign him back to the Q after his 9 NHL games.

Maybe the Ducks are stretching out those 9 games on purpose to put pressure on his Q team to trade him to a better Q team.

 

[Kalv]

Lybushkin lowest ice time by a mile, does anyone think Luneau goes in for him tomorrow?

I'd guess that probably not, just to keep the veteran balance. But now that you mentioned it, it does not sound like too outrageous... perhaps they do it. Luneau logged huge minutes with Fowler and looked ok doing that. Him paired with Minty would be risky, but heck, why not.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'd guess that probably not, just to keep the veteran balance. But now that you mentioned it, it does not sound like too outrageous... perhaps they do it. Luneau logged huge minutes with Fowler and looked ok doing that. Him paired with Minty would be risky, but heck, why not.

Wouldn’t mind seeing tonight

Fowler luneau
Lacombe drysdale
Mintyukov gudas

Obviously spread out the mins a bit, we’re very out matched vs Carolina but maybe have a bunch of dmen that will push the play will make for offensive opportunities. Maybe toss Vaaks in for 1 of lacombe/minty

 

[Leonardo87]

Drysdale was a +1 last night with a primary assist in a 4-1 loss. That’s a good sign.

 

[Gliff]

Drysdale was a +1 last night with a primary assist in a 4-1 loss. That’s a good sign.

Cam got screwed by the bad change or he would have e been the same.

 

[AngelDuck]

Drysdale was a +1 last night with a primary assist in a 4-1 loss. That’s a good sign.

Was our best D last night

 

[Boo Boo]

Drysdale was a +1 last night with a primary assist in a 4-1 loss. That’s a good sign.

That was his first point since his rookie season

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Cam got screwed by the bad change or he would have e been the same.

Drysdale was carrying that pairing

 

[Gliff]

Drysdale was carrying that pairing

Ya Cam was terrible late in the game.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ya Cam was terrible late in the game.

He was pretty bad throughout the game… def needs to step up as a vet leader

 

[Mr Rogers]

He was pretty bad throughout the game… def needs to step up as a vet leader

Agreed. Not to harp on him too much because it was the first game of the year, but he was bad start to finish. There wasn’t really a stretch of time where he was playing well at all.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

@Bergey37 wrote:

Oh, I quite understand that Killorn was brought in to help stabilize there guys. And it was indeed refreshing to see Carlsson with Terry and Z so bright in one preseason game against AHL competition. My concern is that these 3 piers of our top 6 could not get the offense going last year, and nothing has changed as of tonight. One game I know, but IMHO these guys need to learn how to work effectively with their teammates. I'm not seeing it yet.​

I'm a bit lost with the notion that our three piers did not get the offense going with Terry, Z's second full season in the NHL, and McTavish's rookie season? All three were in the top-4 of the Ducks scoring, and that's with captain Getzlaf no longer in the lineup and no defensive help. Are you expecting each to be McDavid?

It's evident we need more top-6 talent. Carlsson plays similar to Getzlaf such that he's constantly looking to pass. That works very well with Terry b/c in Getz' last year with the Ducks, Terry notched 37 goals. Without Getz, it's a different game as Z as Terry's center.

Speaking of center, Z not only lost the 1C spot at times last year, but also kicked out to wing for a few games. This is why drafting Carlsson was important. Big Carl is 6'3 and 198 lbs at 18 years old, which means he's still got some filling out to do where he could be 220 lbs.

Line 1: Rico - Z - Terry
Line 2: Vatrano - Mac - Strome

From this game card, Line 1 was severely hampered by Rico. Line 2, we see Mac carrying two bottom-6 forwards in Vatrano and Strome. Strome isn't providing useful defense.

In short, you're expecting three working cylinders on a V-6 engine to run like a V-6 engine with all of its cylinders working. A better example is last year's defensive corps (excluding Drysdale since he was out most of the season), where we had only one top-4D and the rest are bottom pairing defensemen or worse. Yet, everyone thinks we had a proper top-4 pairing. Looking at the game 1 chart, we got Drysdale and rookie LaCombe performing better than Fowler.

We're a work in progress and not expecting to make the playoffs because we're still trying to add a lot of talent. Some of us are worried that after our quartet youthful forwards (Terry, Z, big Mac, and big Carl), we're still missing top-6 wingers as there's nothing worthwhile at the moment in our system.

 

[Bergey37]

@Bergey37 wrote:

Oh, I quite understand that Killorn was brought in to help stabilize there guys. And it was indeed refreshing to see Carlsson with Terry and Z so bright in one preseason game against AHL competition. My concern is that these 3 piers of our top 6 could not get the offense going last year, and nothing has changed as of tonight. One game I know, but IMHO these guys need to learn how to work effectively with their teammates. I'm not seeing it yet.​

I'm a bit lost with the notion that our three piers did not get the offense going with Terry, Z's second full season in the NHL, and McTavish's rookie season? All three were in the top-4 of the Ducks scoring, and that's with captain Getzlaf no longer in the lineup and no defensive help. Are you expecting each to be McDavid?

It's evident we need more top-6 talent. Carlsson plays similar to Getzlaf such that he's constantly looking to pass. That works very well with Terry b/c in Getz' last year with the Ducks, Terry notched 37 goals. Without Getz, it's a different game as Z as Terry's center.

Speaking of center, Z not only lost the 1C spot at times last year, but also kicked out to wing for a few games. This is why drafting Carlsson was important. Big Carl is 6'3 and 198 lbs at 18 years old, which means he's still got some filling out to do where he could be 220 lbs.

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Line 1: Rico - Z - Terry
Line 2: Vatrano - Mac - Strome

From this game card, Line 1 was severely hampered by Rico. Line 2, we see Mac carrying two bottom-6 forwards in Vatrano and Strome. Strome isn't providing useful defense.

In short, you're expecting three working cylinders on a V-6 engine to run like a V-6 engine with all of its cylinders working. A better example is last year's defensive corps (excluding Drysdale since he was out most of the season), where we had only one top-4D and the rest are bottom pairing defensemen or worse. Yet, everyone thinks we had a proper top-4 pairing. Looking at the game 1 chart, we got Drysdale and rookie LaCombe performing better than Fowler.

We're a work in progress and not expecting to make the playoffs because we're still trying to add a lot of talent. Some of us are worried that after our quartet youthful forwards (Terry, Z, big Mac, and big Carl), we're still missing top-6 wingers as there's nothing worthwhile at the moment in our system.

Fair enough. and I'm not looking for an argument. It's just that these guys are so talented, one would think they could bring other guys along; but worst offense in the league last season, a disjointed, helter-skelter offense that couldn't maintain pressure. And last night was the same, and it worries me. It was only one game though, and I preach patience enough that I should practice my preaching. Just feel like these guys are talented enough that they ought to be able to find some chemistry with somebody even before Carlsson and Killorn get here. Hopefully I'll see it soon.

 

[la patineuse]

I couldn't watch the game last night. Do the Ducks have a captain this year?

 

[ScarTroy]

Fair enough. and I'm not looking for an argument. It's just that these guys are so talented, one would think they could bring other guys along; but worst offense in the league last season, a disjointed, helter-skelter offense that couldn't maintain pressure. And last night was the same, and it worries me. It was only one game though, and I preach patience enough that I should practice my preaching. Just feel like these guys are talented enough that they ought to be able to find some chemistry with somebody even before Carlsson and Killorn get here. Hopefully I'll see it soon.

Also have to note that was a pretty unchanged cup winner. That’s a deep team. Also our penalty trouble didn’t help us.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Fair enough. and I'm not looking for an argument. It's just that these guys are so talented, one would think they could bring other guys along; but worst offense in the league last season, a disjointed, helter-skelter offense that couldn't maintain pressure. And last night was the same, and it worries me. It was only one game though, and I preach patience enough that I should practice my preaching. Just feel like these guys are talented enough that they ought to be able to find some chemistry with somebody even before Carlsson and Killorn get here. Hopefully I'll see it soon.

You need a lot of talent to win. You need talent to have chemistry. We didn't have enough to go around last year as we relied upon 21-year old Zegras and 19-year old Mac to start last season. The additions of veterans Vatrano and Strome weren't enough, apparently, to where rookie Carlsson and FA Killorn can kick both down into the bottom-6.

Game 1 top-6 grouping was essential last year's lineup, once McTavish finished up at 2C.

I'm with you that I expected more out of the three young forwards, especially McTavish to take another step forward, but without Carlsson and Killorn, we still have last year's top-6 and that is lacking higher end talent.

There is something positive with last night's game. We gave up 1 ES goal, 2 PP goals, and an empty netter (EN). We scored 1 ES goal. With respect to ES play, we played even with VGK. That's improvement.

I couldn't watch the game last night. Do the Ducks have a captain this year?

No captain this year. Waiting to see which youth takes that mantle for next season, hopefully.

 

[Bergey37]

You need a lot of talent to win. You need talent to have chemistry. We didn't have enough to go around last year as we relied upon 21-year old Zegras and 19-year old Mac to start last season. The additions of veterans Vatrano and Strome weren't enough, apparently, to where rookie Carlsson and FA Killorn can kick both down into the bottom-6.

Game 1 top-6 grouping was essential last year's lineup, once McTavish finished up at 2C.

I'm with you that I expected more out of the three young forwards, especially McTavish to take another step forward, but without Carlsson and Killorn, we still have last year's top-6 and that is lacking higher end talent.

There is something positive with last night's game. We gave up 1 ES goal, 2 PP goals, and an empty netter (EN). We scored 1 ES goal. With respect to ES play, we played even with VGK. That's improvement.



No captain this year. Waiting to see which youth takes that mantle for next season, hopefully.

Yes, I was pleased with what I saw from the defense.

 

[Hey234]

With Carlsson back possibly next game, I would personally sit Silf but I'm assuming it will be Johnston. My guess is that Henrique drops to the 3rd line because it's not working with Zegras & Terry. I thinking:

Zegras-Carlsson-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Henrique-Groulx-Silf
Jones-Carrick-Leason

 

[Sean Garrity]

With Carlsson back possibly next game, I would personally sit Silf but I'm assuming it will be Johnston. My guess is that Henrique drops to the 3rd line because it's not working with Zegras & Terry. I thinking:

Zegras-Carlsson-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Henrique-Groulx-Silf
Jones-Carrick-Leason

I think you probably have to run something like this because you can’t touch the second line after their performance. If we’re talking performance, Rico would take Silf place. Jones, Bo, Carrick, Leason and Johnston have been doing what they’ve been asked. Probably just depends on the opponent. That stated, they likely won’t sit Johnston. Rico will move down to 3C, Bo to 4c and Carrick to 4c wing.

 

[lwvs84]

It'll be interesting when everyone is healthy. Wonder if they may try something like:
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Killorn- Carlsson-Terry
Henrique-Zegras-??? (Jones/Silf?)

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Two games in and it feels like we’re contenders lol soak it in my friends

I hope it lasts but the realist in me says beware

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Kinda liking the lineup.

Everyone seems to have a specific role and even guys I was down on like Groulx are playing within that role and contributing.

PP is still god awful though

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Ducks should give Luneau a shot soon and roll with 7 dmen that game ... Give him alot of PP time with limited 5 on 5 mins.

He's one of the young guys across the league that I am VERY curious to see how he does at this level