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Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

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ScarTroy said:
Did Fowler look ok with Lyubushkin? I thought they looked decent but I was locked in on watching the kids line up front
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I thought Lyubushkin looked solid with Fowler. Until Gudas gets back into skating shape and Drysdale proves himself, we should stick with Fowler-Lyubushkin.

That leaves a combo of Gudas, LaCombe, Drysdale, Minty, and Vaaks. That's one vet (Gudas), two rookies (LaCombe and Minty), and two unknowns due to injuries. We have only one stay-at-home D-man left in Gudas.

My preference is to have LaCombe as a top-4 pairing, as he was the most consistent and often the best d-man on the ice, not to be confused with most flashiest.
 
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Hockey Duckie said:
I thought Lyubushkin looked solid with Fowler. Until Gudas gets back into skating shape and Drysdale proves himself, we should stick with Fowler-Lyubushkin.

That leaves a combo of Gudas, LaCombe, Drysdale, Minty, and Vaaks. That's one vet (Gudas), two rookies (LaCombe and Minty), and two unknowns due to injuries. We have only one stay-at-home D-man left in Gudas.

My preference is to have LaCombe as a top-4 pairing, as he was the most consistent and often the best d-man on the ice, not to be confused with most flashiest.
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I agree, I’d like to see something like:

Fowler - Lyubushkin
LaCombe - Drysdale
Mintykov- Gudas

Maybe swap Drysdale and Gudas. It’s not ideal but it’s what we have.
 
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ScarTroy said:
I agree, I’d like to see something like:

Fowler - Lyubushkin
LaCombe - Drysdale
Mintykov- Gudas

Maybe swap Drysdale and Gudas. It’s not ideal but it’s what we have.
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Yeah. Drysdale is going to be the senior on a pair occaisionally. And thats….. rough
 
I won't shed tears over Kassian not getting a contract, but this team really lacks toughness. Who is going to protect all the rookies or hold guys accountable for taking runs at Z? Gudas? There's literally nobody on the team that can make players think twice about taking liberties on our guys. Unless we get an enforcer it's just going to be open season on guys like Terry, Z, Drysdale, Minty, etc.
 
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Ducks said:
I won't shed tears over Kassian not getting a contract, but this team really lacks toughness. Who is going to protect all the rookies or hold guys accountable for taking runs at Z? Gudas? There's literally nobody on the team that can make players think twice about taking liberties on our guys. Unless we get an enforcer it's just going to be open season on guys like Terry, Z, Drysdale, Minty, etc.
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Kassian is useless but this team is softer than last years I didn't think it could be possible. Verbeek doesn't give a f*** about that aspect. He likes offensive dmen and gentle giant forwards
 
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Ducks said:
I won't shed tears over Kassian not getting a contract, but this team really lacks toughness. Who is going to protect all the rookies or hold guys accountable for taking runs at Z? Gudas? There's literally nobody on the team that can make players think twice about taking liberties on our guys. Unless we get an enforcer it's just going to be open season on guys like Terry, Z, Drysdale, Minty, etc.
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Wheres Nic Deslauriers again Philly? Can we have him back please
 
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Dirk316 said:
This of course isn't saying much but lost Beaulieu, Benoit, Comtois and gained Gudas?
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Team added D Gudas and LW Killorn, both physical players. Lyubushkin is a stay-at-home D-man who looks faster than Beaulieu and Benoit. Surprisingly, rookie D LaCombe dishes out some big hits and could be one of our better defensive d-men.

A player willing to fight who looks like he's found his skating legs again after having hip surgery is Sam Carrick.
 
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Hockey Duckie said:
Team added D Gudas and LW Killorn, both physical players. Lyubushkin is a stay-at-home D-man who looks faster than Beaulieu and Benoit. Surprisingly, rookie D LaCombe dishes out some big hits and could be one of our better defensive d-men.

A player willing to fight who looks like he's found his skating legs again after having hip surgery is Sam Carrick.
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If we could find a slightly more skilled Sam Carrick, maybe 30 points, I'd be happy.
 
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There's a difference between adding guys who play physically to the lineup and adding guys who other teams are scared of getting pummeled by for stepping out of line. I appreciate the Carrick drops the mitts, but he's nowhere near a Reeves or a Deslauriers, guys that actually make other players think twice about taking liberties on your team.

At this rate, it's only a matter of time before we have another Jay Beagle incident and nobody on the ice who can do a damn thing about it.
 
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Ducks said:
There's a difference between adding guys who play physically to the lineup and adding guys who other teams are scared of getting pummeled by for stepping out of line. I appreciate the Carrick drops the mitts, but he's nowhere near a Reeves or a Deslauriers, guys that actually make other players think twice about taking liberties on your team.

At this rate, it's only a matter of time before we have another Jay Beagle incident and nobody on the ice who can do a damn thing about it.
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Last year's Jay Beagle incident had Beaulieu, Benoit, and Comtois. You are defending losing those three players when the Beagle incident happened on their watch.

Anyhow, teams with Beagle-types, cheap shot artists, on their team will oft generate Beagle type incidences regardless of team makeup. They're not made of the same ilk of Des.

There's a difference between being soft and adding physical play. Last year, we didn't fight because we didn't have bite on our roster, especially on defense. We now have added more physicality to show we're not as soft as last year's team. It's a good step forward to have physicality that opposing teams are afraid of in Killorn and Gudas. Gudas has already given the Ducks advertisements he's got a short temper in pre-season. And with Lyubushkin added, at least he's willing to bear hug a player down.

Down in the AHL and system, Verbeek has acquired a few players who are willing to throw down. We saw in the rookie camp how two prospects were teaching each other how to fight, iirc it was Weibe/Caulfied and Smith. Gaucher is willing to fight as well.

PV didn't care about physicality last year, obviously. This year, he's added some bite. Also, he's trying to develop some for the near future and far future.
 
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Hockey Duckie said:
Last year's Jay Beagle incident had Beaulieu, Benoit, and Comtois. You are defending losing those three players when the Beagle incident happened on their watch.
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I could care less that those guys are gone. We need an actual enforcer to protect the skilled players and rookies during the rebuild. When Getzlaf was on the team it was a different story because despite being our best player, he would protect guys and throw down when he had to do so, even in his final season. When Verbeek got rid of Des he opened the team up to abuse and it's going to continue with the roster we have. Carrick and Gudas are not a replacement for Des and we don't have enough toughness in the roster to compensate for a lack of an enforcer.
 
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Ya losing dez was lame. With the cap space we have and length of his contract I would’ve def signed him to the same exact numbers which coincides with our rebuild phase
 
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Hockey Duckie said:
Huh... So we might be carrying 8D?

LD: Fowler, LaCombe*, Minty*, and Vaaks
RD: Gudas, Lyubuskin, Drysdale, and Luneau*

* = rookie
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Might make sense with 2 back to backs in the first 8 days. I'm not sure you want Dry, Luneau, Minty (arguable), or Vaak (maybe LaCombe, but he's older or healthier than the other players) playing both days on those. Only 1 game between those so if you bench a kid, they're only missing a game.
 
JAHV said:
Fowler's best partner was the brief, but glorious, period when Simon Despres was over there. And then Despres got concussed by...someone on the Avalanche. Tyson Barrie? Gabriel Landeskog? I forget who it was. He was never the same. Fowler has cycled through a bunch of guys since then, but has seemed to do better with simple, stay-at-home types who can play solid positional hockey. Eric Gudbranson didn't look as terrible next to Fowler as he's looked the rest of his career.

I also am skeptical with Drysdale over there, but I think that makes more sense than Drysdale with a rookie. And I don't think we want Gudas over there full time - that's too many minutes for him.
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The same can be said for any other of our defenceman. Drysdale is the only one that should be ok logging 20+ minutes. That is the only reason I'm somewhat ok to give that pairing a shot albeit stylistically they're not good.

VainGretzky said:
How has Mintyukov looked? he will be the best from 2022 draft
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Very indecisive little piece of text from you :laugh:

As noted by others, he impressed. He exceeded my expectations as well
 
Kalv said:
The same can be said for any other of our defenceman. Drysdale is the only one that should be ok logging 20+ minutes. That is the only reason I'm somewhat ok to give that pairing a shot albeit stylistically they're not good.


Very indecisive little piece of text from you :laugh:

As noted by others, he impressed. He exceeded my expectations as well
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True, but I'm not worried about Gudas logging that many minutes for the sake of the team's performance. I'm worried about it for the longevity of Gudas. The Ducks have Gudas for three years. Playoffs this year are not in the picture, but hopefully they'll move toward it next year and be in the postseason the year after. If we want Gudas to have something left in the tank for a playoff run in a few years, I don't want him logging 23 minutes a night this season. Maybe that's being a little picky, but if we're going to overplay somebody, I'd rather it be someone who isn't a long-term investment for the team (like Lybushkin) or has legs young enough to handle it (Drysdale).
 
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