Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion VII

[CDJ]

Starting 70% of his shifts in the D zone tends to destroy one's corsi. If anything, I am pretty impressed he is putting up these numbers despite the tougher match-ups and offensive disadvantage of starting in his own end all game.

100% this. I’ve been saying it for years but you can’t look at those numbers without looking at context. Him and Beecher get the hardest starts on the team and thus their numbers are going to reflect that quite a bit (Beecher is at an eye popping 90% D-zone face offs). Of course the advanced stats that factor in shots are going to take a hit- especially when it’s usually talented offensive players getting put on the ice for the draws inside the attacking zone

 

[8thRoundPick]

I would like to add Perry-except Beecher or Merk would probably render him ineffective. Maybe Merk could do the job. They need serious center help ASAP. Whether it is a bottom six center, or a top six center, or both, is up to Sweeney.

And yet, I can't shake this feeling that he is not aiming at a center come deadline - he's angling for another dman.

 

[wintersej]

When zone starts are calculated, neutral zone starts are excluded.

That’s 58% not 70%.

 

[Hookslide]

https://x.com/PeterTenkrat/status/1744913838716428407?s=20

There is certainly room for Lucic on this team if/when he gets cleared.
Neither O'Brien nor Crouse would yell down the Bruins bench and threaten Bruins with Looch there.

I always enjoyed watching O'Brien until the game the other night when he pulled that chicken shit move against Frederic, he now has a debt to pay, cam he afford the price, I don't think so.

And yet, I can't shake this feeling that he is not aiming at a center come deadline - he's angling for another dman.

With awful play of the bottom six D, recently I would hope he adds two D-man.

 

[NDiesel]

From what I understand, he got wasted at a dinner function and acted completely out of order. Not much in terms of details was ever released, but the vibe I get is he said something he can't take back.

Not to downplay since we have no idea what he said or did specifically, but who hasn't gotten wasted and said something they regret, hell lots of people do it sober. Didn't Monty get fired partially for something said in an interview while drunk?

I think Perry would be a big improvement over Steen.

 

[Fenian24]

With awful play of the bottom six D, recently I would hope he adds two D-man.

Sad but true. Grizz is useless, Lindholm is no where near as good as last year and they need a defenseman with some mean, preferably two. Still need a center and some grit on the wings.

Otherwise they are in great shape

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

That’s 58% not 70%.

I don't disagree - I didn't post those numbers. Moneypuck and Hockey Reference have Coyle at 66% DZ starts so not sure why NST is so far off.

Sad but true. Grizz is useless, Lindholm is no where near as good as last year and they need a defenseman with some mean, preferably two. Still need a center and some grit on the wings.

Otherwise they are in great shape

Hopefully they find a way to get themselves back into contention for a Wildcard spot right?

 

[sarge88]

Do we actually know what Perry did?

My question exactly!

There are things that can’t be excused and things that can.

I’m always willing to give a person another chance, for certain mistakes/transgressions.

Conversely, there are things that I can’t forgive.

I really wish we knew the truth.

I don't disagree - I didn't post those numbers. Moneypuck and Hockey Reference have Coyle at 66% DZ starts so not sure why NST is so far off.


Hopefully they find a way to get themselves back into contention for a Wildcard spot right?

I think we’re well past having just participating in the playoffs as the goal.

If you’re comfortable with the make up of this team being able to sustain a long playoff run, then I hope you’re right.

A lot of us aren’t, but only time will tell.

 

[goldnblack]

Rumors the sens are about to trade some key players...

Wonder if we're fits

 

[Hookslide]

Sad but true. Grizz is useless, Lindholm is no where near as good as last year and they need a defenseman with some mean, preferably two. Still need a center and some grit on the wings.

Otherwise they are in great shape

Lindholm has not been as good as we would like, but he is still a pretty good defenseman, and a lot better than most. Gryz ,Loheri, Shattenkirk and don't let a few goals from him cloud your judgement. I have been calling for defensive help since training camp while everyone else was screaming for Elias Lindholm. The Bruins to their credit have tried to work some youth into the lineup, but I think too much was being made of them while they have done anything to warrant that type of hype . Loheri should be in the AHL, he is not ready sorry if I broke someone's heart, I also did not realize that he has not played defense that long and that is position that takes time to master. Poitras to be fair to management, forced his way onto the team with his early play and the stupid nine game rule, cannot go to the AHL rule, but this needs time. Beecher has some growing to do to his game, but has helped out in areas that was not expected, but to work on his game, but should remain in the lineup, called on job training. We are now at a time in the season where we do not need to keep bringing up the kids like Merkolov, Lysell,Steen and anyone else down in Providence, that simply are not ready. I did wonder why Bogvist was not given a chance before, he does have some NHL experience. I think this team has exceeded expectations after a excessive roster turnover, and that the players who have stepped up and took on the challenge head on should be given credit. Now management needs to get them some help and I know the cap is detriment but hey management get creative and show your appreciation to these guys.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Rumors the sens are about to trade some key players...

Wonder if we're fits

I doubt they would trade in division and the names mentioned most frequently here in Ottawa are Chabot and Norris. Both have big contracts, Chabot is a train wreck defensively and although Norris is a promising young center his shoulder issues are a big concern going forward.

 

[Number8]

https://x.com/PeterTenkrat/status/1744913838716428407?s=20

There is certainly room for Lucic on this team if/when he gets cleared.
Neither O'Brien nor Crouse would yell down the Bruins bench and threaten Bruins with Looch there.

Agreed. Lucic really screwed the pooch for everyone -- his wife and kids most of all.

However, I do have to say I chuckled at Liam O'Brien threatening Marchand. I'm sure Marchy lost a lot of peace over that.

I will say it would have been nice if Lucic had been around to feed O'Brien his teeth for jumping Freddy. That was some kind of bullshit.

 

[Sheppy]

Agreed. Lucic really screwed the pooch for everyone -- his wife and kids most of all.

However, I do have to say I chuckled at Liam O'Brien threatening Marchand. I'm sure Marchy lost a lot of peace over that.

I will say it would have been nice if Lucic had been around to feed O'Brien his teeth for jumping Freddy. That was some kind of bullshit.

The funny part about the whole thing is... Liam O'Brien isn't tough. He gets his shit filled in most times when he fights, lol.

That's the guy they let do this to them

 

[Yeti34]

I’d look at signing Perry. He can play bottom 6 bring some grit to the line up and chip in with some goals.

I’m still hopeful lucic can work out his issues and return as well. A 4th line of lucic-Beecher- Perry would be fun to watch.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

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Hey everyone. We can’t go speculating on what happened with Lucic and Perry… or anyone else for that matter. And the Lucic talk just actually has to stop. Thank you.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I always enjoyed watching O'Brien until the game the other night when he pulled that chicken shit move against Frederic, he now has a debt to pay, cam he afford the price, I don't think so.


With awful play of the bottom six D, recently I would hope he adds two D-man.

Brilliant or just mispell?

 

[goldnblack]

Perry can't skate anymore, he'd be perfect imho

 

[Sheppy]

Perry can't skate anymore, he'd be perfect imho

Bruins current 4th line - Lauko, Beecher, Steen, combined 11 points in 89 games.

Corey Perry 9 points in 16 games.

 

[goldnblack]

Bruins current 4th line - Lauko, Beecher, Steen, combined 11 points in 89 games.

Corey Perry 9 points in 16 games.

I'm sure the 15% shooting percentage on a tiny sample was sustainable for a 38 year old

Anyone know if Joe Thornton can come play C for us?

 

[Sheppy]

I'm sure the 15% shooting percentage on a tiny sample was sustainable for a 38 year old

Anyone know if Joe Thornton can come play C for us?

Would you agree or disagree that Perry is better than anyone currently on our 4th line?

 

[TD Charlie]

Corey Perry is a total dink

It just so happens to be that Boston lacks that characteristic on the ice.

I'm in.

 

[goldnblack]

Would you agree or disagree that Perry is better than anyone currently on our 4th line?

I think that Corey Perry got almost 4 minutes of power play time this year on the Blackhawks, something he would absolutely never get here if brought in to play the 4th line. I think he also played 0 minutes short handed, something we tend to need from our 4th line guys ideally.

I think 11 hits in 16 games is absolutely nothing to write home about, if people want a tough guy.

Him being a depth guy here is fine. But like a 13th forward kind of thing. He's not solving any issues.

 

[Fenian24]

Corey Perry was on an almost 40 point pace and put up solid numbers the past few seasons. His game has never been about speed, he hangs around the net, stirs s**t and bangs home rebounds. That would look pretty good on a vanilla, unproductive, uninspired non physical fourth line with no real identity currently employing Jesper Boqvist who is fast and awful

Would you agree or disagree that Perry is better than anyone currently on our 4th line?

Maybe if Beecher decides he wants to be an NHL regular for the next 10 years using his speed and size to hit on a regular basis, otherwise no, and I like Lauko but he is underwhelming.

 

[CellyHard]

I doubt they would trade in division and the names mentioned most frequently here in Ottawa are Chabot and Norris. Both have big contracts, Chabot is a train wreck defensively and although Norris is a promising young center his shoulder issues are a big concern going forward.

I would be all in on Norris if he was available, especially buying now while his value is the lowest. It would probably have to be an offseason move tho

He’ll get healthy and rebound. He’d be a fantastic fit in the top six.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Corey Perry is a total dink

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Dual income no kids?