Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion VI

[Sheppy]

Any more danton types out there that can be had for bargain basement prices?

This is the opposite of what we need. We have like 11 bargain bin players.

The team is f***ing soft, we don’t need more couch pillows.

 

[mflo77]

if hanifin is a lock that makes this season easier to swallow. just add him and a center.

Renaud Lavoie of TVA has written that many teams are shying away from dealing for the blueliner because it is well known Hanifin wants to come home and play for the Bruins.

“The thing with Hanifin is, he’s been on the market, if I’m not mistaken, for the last two years. But the problem is, everyone knows that he wants to play for the (Boston) Bruins. So, no one’s ready to make that move, because that connection with the Bruins is there. It kind of handcuffs everyone, because they all know that at one point he’ll sign with (Boston). So, it’s a tricky situation for him.”

debrusk for hannifin. both sign extensions with their new clubs.

 

[slim399]

I think the team’s record is better than the actual team. I believe we have seen that the past few games. I think they are what we expected, a fringe playoff team in a transition year. If this continues as the season progresses I would be tempted to move out expiring contracts as rentals as well as Ullmark to a contender. Recoup the picks we gave up from last year and open up more space and assets to add big in the offseason.

Out:
Debrusk
JVR
Heinen
Gryz
Forbort
Shattenkirk
Ullmark

In:
Merkulov
Farinacci
Lysell
Regula
Witherspoon
Mitchell
Bussi

There would be some lumps for sure. But they would probably still be good enough to make the playoffs and more dangerous offensively.

 

[Hookslide]

The coach helped too.

and two injured players that should not have been in the lineup.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

debrusk for hannifin. both sign extensions with their new clubs.

That sounds fair.

 

[mflo77]

4. They need better crease clearers. Forbort, Carlo and Lindholm all play a similar defensive game. Positionally sound and hard to get around when you are carrying the puck. Lorhei’s upside is that kind of game, but it’s doubtful he will ever be as good as those guys at it. But, all these guys are inconsistent at clearing the crease and it has been not a small part of their issues with holding late leads and defending against teams with desperation. Maybe you can solve three and four together, but guys that are tough and nasty and good enough to either play with McAvoy or Carlo are hard to pry away.

If Edmonton's , Vincent Desharnais available ?​

 

[capecodder]

(Like faith no more asked) What is “it” in this sentence?

Addiction and domestic issues

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I think the team’s record is better than the actual team. I believe we have seen that the past few games. I think they are what we expected, a fringe playoff team in a transition year. If this continues as the season progresses I would be tempted to move out expiring contracts as rentals as well as Ullmark to a contender. Recoup the picks we gave up from last year and open up more space and assets to add big in the offseason.

There would be some lumps for sure. But they would probably still be good enough to make the playoffs and more dangerous offensively.

Out:
Debrusk
JVR
Heinen
Gryz
Forbort
Shattenkirk
Ullmark

In:
Merkulov
Farinacci
Lysell
Regula
Witherspoon
Mitchell
Bussi

There would be some lumps for sure. But they would probably still be good enough to make the playoffs and more dangerous offensively.

I don't think so.

 

[Hookslide]

I think the team’s record is better than the actual team. I believe we have seen that the past few games. I think they are what we expected, a fringe playoff team in a transition year. If this continues as the season progresses I would be tempted to move out expiring contracts as rentals as well as Ullmark to a contender. Recoup the picks we gave up from last year and open up more space and assets to add big in the offseason.

Out:
Debrusk
JVR
Heinen
Gryz
Forbort
Shattenkirk
Ullmark

In:
Merkulov
Farinacci
Lysell
Regula
Witherspoon
Mitchell
Bussi

There would be some lumps for sure. But they would probably still be good enough to make the playoffs and more dangerous offensively.

Yes, I am sure you are not one of the guys saying the Bruins need to get bigger, that lineup will just put somebody over the edge.

 

[Ratty]

If reports are true that Hanifin wants only to play for Boston, it makes sense to wait 'till the offseason to sign him. This way you're not expending any capital. Use whatever assets we have to trade for a forward now and add the D later.

 

[Hookslide]

debrusk for hannifin. both sign extensions with their new clubs.

DeBrusk, Gryz, and Lysell, for Hanifan, and Taresenko.

 

[MillerTime29Bombs]

I see Lindholm and Hanifan all over this post. Need to know what real players ( not pie in the sky BS) the Flames will ask ( should receive from the Bruins. I struggle as they have no ready for NHL players in Providence. They have little draft capital. There College/ Junior prospects are considered by many to be middling players. So as much as I would love to see an upgrade I don’t believe the B’s have the assets to make it happen. Please enlighten me on the trade packages that will get these two player.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

DeBrusk, Gryz, and Lysell, for Hanifan, and Taresenko.

That sounds fair too

 

[BlackFrancis]

So now what? Do you rebuild the forward group into one that plays dump and chase instead of trying to enter with control?

I swear they've dumped the puck in more this season already than they've done in the past two seasons combined.

 

[wintersej]

I think there are two glaring issues with the team right now. One being a lack of offensive talent and two being team toughness (especially defensively)

If you look at the forwards it’s pretty simple we have too many 3rd liners.

1st line caliber: Pastrnak
2nd line caliber: Marchand, Zacha, Coyle
3rd: Poitras, Heinen, JVR, Geekie, Frederic, Debrusk

We know Zacha works well with Pasta and can hack it up there but we still need a 1st line LW/C and a 2nd line RW (it really is a shame the year JD is having)

xxx Zacha Pastrnak
Marchand Coyle xxx

I’m not sure if they are banking on Poitras being that guy in the future or if Lysell can make a fast jump but however you want to paint it we need two top six players

I’d quibble with Coyle as a 2nd liner. He has produced offensively with the increase in TOI and role, but no matter the usage, you ain’t a second line center if you are underwater in shots and shot attempts as much as Coyle is. Much better served on the 3rd line.

On the opposite end DeBrusk obviously needs to seriously pick up his actual production, but the team has actually been better with him on the ice than any forward but Pasta, FWIW. That’s more of an indictment of the forward group than praise for DeBrusk, but I genuinely think if he was put back into his proper role as a support player that is your 5th or 6th most important forward he would be fine.

I swear they've dumped the puck in more this season already than they've done in the past two seasons combined.

Yeah that’s fair but they don’t get to it as fast as they need to to be built that way.

 

[jgatie]

I think the team’s record is better than the actual team. I believe we have seen that the past few games. I think they are what we expected, a fringe playoff team in a transition year. If this continues as the season progresses I would be tempted to move out expiring contracts as rentals as well as Ullmark to a contender. Recoup the picks we gave up from last year and open up more space and assets to add big in the offseason.

Out:
Debrusk
JVR
Heinen
Gryz
Forbort
Shattenkirk
Ullmark

In:
Merkulov
Farinacci
Lysell
Regula
Witherspoon
Mitchell
Bussi

There would be some lumps for sure. But they would probably still be good enough to make the playoffs and more dangerous offensively.

Can you name any team in history that traded 7 players at the deadline, never mind one which is in a playoff spot?

 

[Ratty]

and two injured players that should not have been in the lineup.

That was my point.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Yeah that’s fair but they don’t get to it as fast as they need to to be built that way.

Or, like with the case of Winnipeg the other night, they don't get to it at all.

Like you were pointing out, this isn't just one thing gumming up the works. Having slow, non-aggressive, poor passing/receiving forwards is totally exposing the back end's struggles.

It'll be interesting to see if or how they get through this.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Or, like with the case of Winnipeg the other night, they don't get to it at all.

Like you were pointing out, this isn't just one thing gumming up the works. Having slow, non-aggressive, poor passing/receiving forwards is totally exposing the back end's struggles.

It'll be interesting to see if or how they get through this.

And that's why there are more dump-ins.

 

[Hookslide]

That sounds fair too

I don't have the guts to say it to Ottawa fan, will you do it for me........hahaha

 

[GordonHowe]

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[Lord Ahriman]

Didn't change my take about this team: they are overachieving and imo far from being good enough to be called contender.

That being said my opinion is certainly minority: I'd not waste any asset on a transition year (for a hockey trade I'd be on board though). They need to clean cap and hoping to get a #1b center in free agency/offseason.

 

[wintersej]

Didn't change my take about this team: they are overachieving and imo far from being good enough to be called contender.

But I also wonder who the f*** the contenders are?

Is it just Rangers, Florida and Vegas, really?

In December, the Rangers have been blown out by the Caps, Leafs and Sens.

Florida was bested by super teams like the Kraken, the Flames and the Blues.

Vegas doesn't have the stinkers that the Rangers and Cats have had, but they are in the midst of losing 4 of their last 5.

Maybe the Canucks are for real? Maybe Dallas?

It doesn't feel like a year with any super teams, including the Bruins. I don't think you force it, I think next season is when you try to start making serious runs again, but while you shouldn't force it, if a guy you think is part of the long term answer becomes available I don't think you run away from it either. Funny things can happen with just a couple of adjustments that get guys into better roles.

I get scared about the idea of the Bruins heading into free agency next year with a bunch of money to spend and the best names haven't made it to UFA. I think the prices this UFA season are going to be viewed as bonkers and I don't want to come out of it with someone like Bertuzzi as the 2nd highest paid forward on the team.

But, no rush. I would like to see Merkulov and Lysell spend some time up on the big club at some point, Merkulov I hope very very very soon.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

But I also wonder who the f*** the contenders are?

Is it just Rangers, Florida and Vegas, really?

In December, the Rangers have been blown out by the Caps, Leafs and Sens.

Florida was bested by super teams like the Kraken, the Flames and the Blues.

Vegas doesn't have the stinkers that the Rangers and Cats have had, but they are in the midst of losing 4 of their last 5.

Maybe the Canucks are for real? Maybe Dallas?

It doesn't feel like a year with any super teams, including the Bruins. I don't think you force it, I think next season is when you try to start making serious runs again, but while you shouldn't force it, if a guy you think is part of the long term answer becomes available I don't think you run away from it either. Funny things can happen with just a couple of adjustments that get guys into better roles.

I get scared about the idea of the Bruins heading into free agency next year with a bunch of money to spend and the best names haven't made it to UFA. I think the prices this UFA season are going to be viewed as bonkers and I don't want to come out of it with someone like Bertuzzi as the 2nd highest paid forward on the team.

But, no rush. I would like to see Merkulov and Lysell spend some time up on the big club at some point, Merkulov I hope very very very soon.

If Vegas wants it bad enough again,I would say there the favourite,we know from last year that what Florida does in the regular season isn’t that important,the Leafs are the Leafs but if they ever figure out how to play better defensively and get better goaltending who knows.

 

[The don godfather]

A hot ullmark can go a long way. That's what I'm betting on. Let's see.