Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion VI

[Therick67]

Is that a defense or a concession?

No biggie here.

I believe the point being made was, despite everything they lost in game 7 of overtime as if it was a toss up, but they blew a 3-1 lead to get to that point. So I’m not giving them any credit for losing in game 7 in overtime. They should have won that series

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Ahh yes the entitlement of wanting more than one Stanley cup in 50 years.

As usual your Simple Jack binary view of the world with a pithy response.

 

[CellyHard]

Watching Hathaway lay out a red wing and then drop the gloves seems appropriate

3 points on the year for Hathaway...making 2.3m and leads a team 2nd in the metro with a -8

Bruins made the right call passing on Hathaway. You can find someone who makes a third of the cost to do what he does.

 

[Therick67]

3 points on the year for Hathaway...making 2.3m and leads a team 2nd in the metro with a -8

Bruins made the right call passing on Hathaway. You can find someone who makes a third of the cost to do what he does.

I wasn’t suggesting they didn’t make the right call, but we were posting about the guys the bruins traded for last year while I was watching Hathaway lay someone out and drop the gloves. It was ironic

 

[BlackFrancis]

I puked in my mouth reading this. Boston is not a “turn the other cheek” city. Imagine rooting for our team to be a carbon copy of the 2011 Canucks… gross.

That came off like I was a huge fan of the old cheek turn?

You sure?

 

[UncleRico]

As usual your Simple Jack binary view of the world with a pithy response.

You’re in here complaining about how you voted the bruins fanbase the worst fanbase in the league because of instances like the conversation of the last few pages. Which the conversation is about lack of championships.

Legitimately interjecting yourself into a conversation to make it about yourself so you can complain about how an entire fanbase doesn’t see things through your eyes.

Look in a mirror.

But go ahead and continue to complain away about how you voted on some random Twitter dudes poll about how much you hate this fan base. It’s great content

 

[Therick67]

Isn’t winning the goal in pro sports? You win, have success you make money.

 

[KrejciWinger]

edit: wrong thread

 

[McGarnagle]

Is Lucic ever coming back after completing whatever rehab they put him in or are they going to quietly pretend he isn't part of the team anymore?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

You’re in here complaining about how you voted the bruins fanbase the worst fanbase in the league because of instances like the conversation of the last few pages. Which the conversation is about lack of championships.

Legitimately interjecting yourself into a conversation to make it about yourself so you can complain about how an entire fanbase doesn’t see things through your eyes.

Look in a mirror.

But go ahead and continue to complain away about how you voted on some random Twitter dudes poll about how much you hate this fan base. It’s great content

Ok

 

[Mione134]

Is Lucic ever coming back after completing whatever rehab they put him in or are they going to quietly pretend he isn't part of the team anymore?

I, for one hope he completes his rehab. But who knows.

 

[22Brad Park]

Is Lucic ever coming back after completing whatever rehab they put him in or are they going to quietly pretend he isn't part of the team anymore?

He has friends in Boston he might make it back.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Is Lucic ever coming back after completing whatever rehab they put him in or are they going to quietly pretend he isn't part of the team anymore?

I’m wondering the same thing. If they’re not waiting for him, why didn’t they cut ties with him?
Pick up a tough defenseman or two and get Looch back and our team improves toughness-wise.

 

[UncleRico]

By design.

The Bruins scored 11 PP goals that series while the Panthers scored only 5. Despite that, I believe the Bruins were very worried about Florida gutting them on the powerplay at the time.

Combine those two things and you have a strategy to both capitalize on PP opportunities while turning the other cheek and staying off the PK. That strategy worked, though a lot of us were put off by Gudas, Tkachuk and Bennett not getting force-flossed with carbon fiber.

They lost due to not finding a strategy to keep key players from injuring themselves the final month of the season.

The Montreal canadiens and Vancouver canucks playbook.

 

[Gee Wally]

Is Lucic ever coming back after completing whatever rehab they put him in or are they going to quietly pretend he isn't part of the team anymore?

we wont know until if anything happens. Once he entered the league program he is under the governance of the league assistance program. Even up to if he can be released from it and his eligibility.

 

[ON3M4N]

A good 3 team trade is what we need....

BOS gets Lindholm
EDM gets DeBrusk
CGY gets Prospects/Picks

There would be other pieces involved but that's the foundation

Zacha - Lindholm - Pastrnak
Marchand - Coyle - Poitras
JVR - Geekie - Frederic
Lauko - Beecher - Steen

I'd even consider swapping Geekie & Poitras.

 

[Babajingo]

JDB, Gryz and Forbert alone, free up around ~10.5 mill at the end of this year.
The problem is that the FA market doesn't seem to great on what the Bs need.
Also, they need to sign Swayman.

I would see what i could get for those 3 and Ullmark, this year. Maybe get a good term player in return for some combo of them. It's what Sweeny is best at.

They better hope Lohrei and Poitras progress. Marchand is looking his age (which is still good) and that only leaves Pasta as a real scoring threat.

Random rumblings

 

[Hookslide]

And then fire the coach. Go back and look at how many coaches were hired to be fired by Sinden in the 90s. Long after Harry had lost his fastball.

Move along, nothing to see here.

You are so right, and one of the coaches he fired was Fred Creighton, and Harry took over like the great savior and they got knocked out in the first round.

 

[Number8]

I’ve been following this team since I was six. I’ve been watching them religiously for 50 years and seen them win one cup and lose 6 times in the finals.

I want another badly. If that makes me entitled, so be it…

I am three years older than you so my Cup total is two.

Other than that, I am in absolute lockstep with what you say and your position on this.

Does any of the “you’re entitled” crowd think Cam Neely is soothed by his number in the rafters and being in the HHOF? I bet it helps a lot I’m sure, but I’m certain that not winning a Cup eats at him savagely.

 

[Number8]

Is Lucic ever coming back after completing whatever rehab they put him in or are they going to quietly pretend he isn't part of the team anymore?

Think he has to be toast.

Bruins might not even have the PR budget necessary to smooth over the shit show Lucic created. Image of a 6’4” 220 LB behemoth yanking his wife around by her hair is not going to go away easily.

Just such idiotic, selfish, and shitty shitty behavior. Hockey is least of what he should be focusing on right now. So many other things to be concerned with. Like trying to convince his kids he doesn’t suck.

As more time goes by and the facts settle in, I’m more and more pissed at him.

 

[NeelyDan]

Think he has to be toast.

Bruins might not even have the PR budget necessary to smooth over the shit show Lucic created. Image of a 6’4” 220 LB behemoth yanking his wife around by her hair is not going to go away easily.

Just such idiotic, selfish, and shitty shitty behavior. Hockey is least of what he should be focusing on right now. So many other things to be concerned with. Like trying to convince his kids he doesn’t suck.

As more time goes by and the facts settle in, I’m more and more pissed at him.

Yep. This is about where I'm at.

 

[Oates2Neely]

JDB, Gryz and Forbert alone, free up around ~10.5 mill at the end of this year.
The problem is that the FA market doesn't seem to great on what the Bs need.
Also, they need to sign Swayman.

I would see what i could get for those 3 and Ullmark, this year. Maybe get a good term player in return for some combo of them. It's what Sweeny is best at.

They better hope Lohrei and Poitras progress. Marchand is looking his age (which is still good) and that only leaves Pasta as a real scoring threat.

Random rumblings

I read somewhere the Bruins are projected to have 19m in cap space next summer (assuming they walk away from DeBrusk Forbort Gryzleck etc) with only Swayman to resign. For conversations sake let’s assume Swayman signs for 6m for 4 years.
13m cap space. Poitras and Lohrei full time next season? Yes. Can Sweeney move Ullmark for a Nugent Hopkins type? Salaries swap out.

RNH • Zacha • Pastrnak
Marchand • Poitras • (———)
Frederic • Coyle • Geekie
Lauko • Beecher • Steen

(———) • McAvoy
Lindholm • Carlo
Lohrei • (———)
*Wotherspooon

13m to acquire a 2RW, top pairing left D, bottom pair RD with some snarl.
Does Sweeney make a pitch for Elias Lindholm to plug in the 1C, moving Zacha to LW? In this scenario maybe Nugent Hopkins isn’t needed, Sweeney looks to move Ullmark for a 1st instead (thus giving himself another 5m in cap space). Is making Hanifin an offer the better move? Hanifin • McAvoy would really give this team a true top pairing and the best top 4 D on paper anyhow.

Other notable UFA’s:
Bertuzzi
Nylander (Marchand • Poitras • Nylander)
Reinhart
Guentzel
Tanev
Pesce
Montour

Should be an interesting summer here in Boston.

 

[ON3M4N]

I read somewhere the Bruins are projected to have 19m in cap space next summer (assuming they walk away from DeBrusk Forbort Gryzleck etc) with only Swayman to resign. For conversations sake let’s assume Swayman signs for 6m for 4 years.
13m cap space. Poitras and Lohrei full time next season? Yes. Can Sweeney move Ullmark for a Nugent Hopkins type? Salaries swap out.

RNH • Zacha • Pastrnak
Marchand • Poitras • (———)
Frederic • Coyle • Geekie
Lauko • Beecher • Steen

(———) • McAvoy
Lindholm • Carlo
Lohrei • (———)
*Wotherspooon

13m to acquire a 2RW, top pairing left D, bottom pair RD with some snarl.
Does Sweeney make a pitch for Elias Lindholm to plug in the 1C, moving Zacha to LW? In this scenario maybe Nugent Hopkins isn’t needed, Sweeney looks to move Ullmark for a 1st instead (thus giving himself another 5m in cap space). Is making Hanifin an offer the better move? Hanifin • McAvoy would really give this team a true top pairing and the best top 4 D on paper anyhow.

Other notable UFA’s:
Bertuzzi
Nylander (Marchand • Poitras • Nylander)
Reinhart
Guentzel
Tanev
Pesce
Montour

Should be an interesting summer here in Boston.

RNH has a full NMC and took a pretty team friendly deal to stay in EDM. I dont see him waiving for Boston

 

[Clode]

Posting my thoughts after last nights no show.

Offensively, they have one guy that can be relied on to produce on a nightly basis in Pastrnak and thats it. Marchand can still contribute but he's 35 with two shot hips and is no longer the play driver he once was. Staying on the topic of Marchand, I thought when he was given the C that it would have him playing fiery but its seemed to do the opposite. In years past he'd starting getting into scrums and stirring the pot when he'd sense the Bs were flat and would try and drag them into the fight but I haven't really noticed any of that this year. Coyle and Zacha have been decent stopgaps for our lack of top C depth but they are not the answer long term. JVR and Poitras had great starts but JVRs fountain of youth seems to have dried up and Poitras has hit a bit of a rookie wall of sorts. Don't even get me started on Debrusk. Systematically their forecheck is nonexistent and I doubt any opposing dman starts sweating when they think about having to retrieve a puck along the end boards when they play the Bruins. Easy to play against.

Defensively, this is the worst Bruins D core i have seen in a long time. Everything from how easy they are to play against to how they manage the puck is horrible. Carlo has been their best defensemen this year, McAvoy has been mediocre at best and the rest of them have been #6s on their best nights and AHL fodder on their worst. Not sure what happened to Lindholm but he's completely forgotten how to play hockey, Grzelcyk, who half of this board seems to think is this amazing PMD, has 1 f*cking point in 20 games at a -3. Shattenkirk looks like he's Shattinhispants half of the time with his d-zone coverage and Lohrei, while the tools are there, still looks lost out there a lot of times and should be in Providence right now. They give up the blueline like its a charity event, wilt at the slightest sign of an aggressive forecheck and can't clear the zone to save their lives. Then in the Ozone none of them can get their shots through and then when they finally do they hit the glass instead.

Not much to be said on the goaltending. They have been the sole reason the Bs record is as good as it is and are naturally starting to break down after being hung out to dry routinely.

The toughness horse has been beaten to dust at this point and is both a roster makeup and team mentality problem. Lauko and Steen bring it up front but aren't big guys and the guys we do have with size don't use any of it. The frustrating thing is that we DID have that guy and well......

Lots of problems and I'm not sure where you even begin fixing them.

 

[Oates2Neely]

RNH has a full NMC and took a pretty team friendly deal to stay in EDM. I dont see him waiving for Boston

Prefer to move Ullmark for a 1st and sign Bertuzzi to 5m deal