Hanifin-McAvoy
Lohrei-Carlo
Lindholm-?
thats pretty dope, if you just got at it from a FA standpoint instead of trading for him now. but not at 7+
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Lohrei-Carlo
Lindholm-?
thats pretty dope, if you just got at it from a FA standpoint instead of trading for him now. but not at 7+
If hanifin does come here, I question what Lindholm could return in a trade...could he be an asset that returns us a top 6 C?
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Not to pry, but is this a reputable station/insider? Genuinely curious cause if theres any truth to that Hanafin bit to BOS that would be dope. Bs certainly have the cap space to do that this offseason.
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It's Canada's #1 Sports talk radio show (FAN590 run by sportsnet/Rogers communication... (leaf centric mind you but they get all the stars and insiders on their program) and the insider is reputable. Nothing is ever for certain but he talks to GMs and the ongoing sentiment is they know Hanifen wants to go to Boston next year so there will be no overpay for him this year in a trade as a rental.
Why would Lindholm go (not that I would 100% mind if he did)? Your top 4 would be Hanifin- Mac, Lindholm-Carlo. That is worth having a 1-2c of Poitras/Coyle and Zacha . If they re-up Gryz at lower money than Lindholm is gettting, I guess they might try to move him, but he has an NTC also.
EDIT- needed more coffee. If Lohrei is ready for full-time, I guess something would have to give.
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If that ends up potentially being your top 4, your bottom pair has to have some snarl on it. It just has to.
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Issue is Lindholm has a full No trade clause until 2027-2028 no?
wintersej
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So Poitras playing with Marchand successfully opens up some options. I think earlier in the season Poitras a bit to in love with the button hook of the left wing half wall and got too much in Marchand's space. Against SJ he was able to use his elusiveness and puck protection in the center of the ice better. Can he do that consistently against non-AHL defenses? Remains to be seen. But if it does work... the bolded are place the team could use an upgrade. I can hear an argument that a physical 12th/13th forward that you wouldn't just bench in the playoffs could also be on the list.
DeBrusk Zacha Pasta
Marchand Poitras Heinen
JVR Coyle Frederic
Lauko Beecher Geekie
Steen/Brown
Gryz McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo
Forbort Shattenkirk
Mitchell
To me, the highest priority is replacing Heinen with a legit top 6 player. With DeBrusk being able to move to RW and Zacha being able to move to LW, that legit top 6 player could be at any position. In an ideal world, its either a two way center and you push Zacha over and DeBrusk down and give the Pasta line some better defensive ability or a winger with some size and snarl and top 6 skills... but... any top 6 player works, really.
Next would be improving the tire fire of the Bruins bottom pairing. It's just not good at 5 on 5. That could be accomplished by finding someone that pushes Gryz down or by upgrading on one of those three 5-7 d-men.
And finally, an upgrade over Gryz in the top 4.
But, they have no cap space and limited assets.
The point I want to make is to the "we need more size and snarl" crowd.
I don't disagree.
But adding to the top six is just way way way more important and they are handcuffed until the offseason on how much they can do.
DeBrusk Zacha Pasta
Marchand Poitras Heinen
JVR Coyle Frederic
Lauko Beecher Geekie
Steen/Brown
Gryz McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo
Forbort Shattenkirk
Mitchell
To me, the highest priority is replacing Heinen with a legit top 6 player. With DeBrusk being able to move to RW and Zacha being able to move to LW, that legit top 6 player could be at any position. In an ideal world, its either a two way center and you push Zacha over and DeBrusk down and give the Pasta line some better defensive ability or a winger with some size and snarl and top 6 skills... but... any top 6 player works, really.
Next would be improving the tire fire of the Bruins bottom pairing. It's just not good at 5 on 5. That could be accomplished by finding someone that pushes Gryz down or by upgrading on one of those three 5-7 d-men.
And finally, an upgrade over Gryz in the top 4.
But, they have no cap space and limited assets.
The point I want to make is to the "we need more size and snarl" crowd.
I don't disagree.
But adding to the top six is just way way way more important and they are handcuffed until the offseason on how much they can do.
It's no different than what we have now except better, so the need remains. It isn't like anyone would be going out that would lessen physicality- potentially gone would be Lindholm (unlikely), Forbort, Gryz. Swap Lindholm for Lohrei if he makes it, same thing. Third pair will need some help unless they keep Gryz as a 3LD and find a new Kevan Miller for that role.
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You've been calling the Hanifin to Boston for a while now. Makes me wonder how much you actually know sometimes
Hanafin had a 6 year deal that's only just running up. There are very few ways for him to get to Boston. But the easiest way is as a UFA.
Look how long Tavares needed to get to his Leafs. Doesn't mean it was any less true the whole time.
Just having some fun with Dan here because he has been beating that drum for a while.
wintersej
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Giving Lorhei a McQuaid and letting him be young Torey Krug for a few years would be amazing. Not sure how you work it all out once Lorhei gets off his ELC, but time to worry about that later.
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NeelyDan eats corn the long way
I think if they add Hanifin, that's a pretty skilled top 4.
McAvoy
Hanifin
Carlo
Lindhom
Mind you, Carlo's skill is more geared towards the defensive side of things. You have 3 guys who can move the puck exceptionally well up the ice.
I just don't see a need for Grzelcyk on the bottom pair.
The reason why I posted the Maroon trade idea was that he looked really good in the game I watched earlier this week. He did not look slow to me / no slower than JVR LOL. He is on pace for a 40 pt season and based on his minutes played is getting 3rd line playing time ( around 13 mins a games). I think we need to add some toughness on the wing before the playoffs. Teams are taking liberties running Marchy / Pasta and McAvoy, someone, other than TF needs to step in and take care of business.
No, I agree, they probably let him walk if Hanifin is coming- but you never know with Don running things. I think they do need a third pair guy that can move the puck, you can't have two Gudas' there which is why I could see Gryz staying, but like Clifton he will have priced himself out of the role. Maybe Lohrei breaks in as a full-time on the third pair?
Sheppy
NeelyDan eats corn the long way
This is ultimately my hope. You get some size back there on the bottom pair, too. Mind you, he's not physical, but if you can find a guy to compliment him like a Jake Middleton, I'd be thrilled.
Bruins have the cap space to be silly next year, really nothing outside of Lindholm for C's but perhaps they see Zacha/Coyle/Poitras as the trio next year too and focus on the wing with Marchand getting up there.
Ok ! let me put my two cents in, for what it is worth. I do not believe Hanifan will be coming to Boston, maybe in the off season, but to play along with the conversation, lets say it does happen, McAvoy, Lindholm ,Carlo, and now Hanifan, would all be under 30, none of them should be traded, your trade chip should be Loheri, I hear the "GASPS" now, how could he say such a thing. But Loheri is still a work in progress, takes time to develop defenseman, and although his potential is certainly there, why not bring in someone who could help you up front, and they will have some cap space nextyear to work with. My suggestion is start talking to Arizona, just maybe something could be worked out with them. Go ahead take your shots I can handle it.
Hanifin-McAvoy
Lindholm-Carlo
Lohrei-Tough SOB
Ullmark/Swayman
That's a Stanley cup winning defense and goaltending. I look to move Forbort and Gryz for whatever I can get this season. If Hanifin wants to be here, I do not go all in this season and try to acquire him, I sign him in the offseason. Tinker where we can for this season but take advantage of the cap space in the summer and build a power house for 24-25.
Lindholm-Carlo
Lohrei-Tough SOB
Ullmark/Swayman
That's a Stanley cup winning defense and goaltending. I look to move Forbort and Gryz for whatever I can get this season. If Hanifin wants to be here, I do not go all in this season and try to acquire him, I sign him in the offseason. Tinker where we can for this season but take advantage of the cap space in the summer and build a power house for 24-25.
wintersej
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Bruins cap situation with a signed Hanifin next year:
Certainly would mean Linus or Sway is gone.
Certainly would mean Linus or Sway is gone.
This wants to go home to Boston slant has a look of the Lu Dubois situation to Montreal, that was set in stone, how did that work out.
wintersej
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I dunno why you move out Gryz and Forbort this season unless it's to clear up space to bring in help this season. Gutting the defense to get a couple of mid round picks just doesn't make sense for a division leading team.
I think the RFA vs UFA situation does add a significant wrinkle.
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