Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion IVX-post TDL

[Mr. Make-Believe]

If Swayman is demading Vasi money... well, see ya.

Okay Swayman specifically.

Any goalie worth it?

 

[Sheppy]

Okay Swayman specifically.

Any goalie worth it?

Certainly not one who is in a 1 game on 1 game off time share.

 

[KrugAvoy]

Can any of these college free agents signed play in the playoffs or not, since they signed after trade deadline day?

 

[NDiesel]

I enjoy this Swayman/Ullmark discussion - while I think the chances of them keeping both is probably less than 3%, if there is not a suitable trade/way to spend Ullmarks money next year I like the idea of keeping him. If you're going to be weaker down the middle you might as well keep your advantage in net over everyone else.

 

[sarge88]

This is my thing. Neither have ran away with the starting role, which to me is kind of why I worry about forking out a hefty contract to a guy who doesn't start two straight games, let alone 60 in a season.

If they go into the playoffs and look like ass again, do you still fully commit to this?

I might be the only one, but I think Bussi will be a solid #2 for the next few years, especially after a hopefully long playoff run this spring.

 

[dafoomie]

Next season, Ottawa has ~20m committed on LD to Chabot, Chychrun, and Sanderson, plus an RFA in Erik Brannstrom who was the key return in the Mark Stone trade, AND Tyler Klevin, their 2020 2nd round pick, coming up. Think they will trade somebody?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Can any of these college free agents signed play in the playoffs or not, since they signed after trade deadline day?

Yes, they can play if they sign a 23/24 NHL contract.

Are any of these college free agents good enough to walk in and play for someone in the playoffs? Highly unlikely

 

[dugg133]

Next season, Ottawa has ~20m committed on LD to Chabot, Chychrun, and Sanderson, plus an RFA in Erik Brannstrom who was the key return in the Mark Stone trade, AND Tyler Klevin, their 2020 2nd round pick, coming up. Think they will trade somebody?

it was rumored that they were exploring trading Chychrun at the deadline, he probably makes the most sense to move.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Next season, Ottawa has ~20m committed on LD to Chabot, Chychrun, and Sanderson, plus an RFA in Erik Brannstrom who was the key return in the Mark Stone trade, AND Tyler Klevin, their 2020 2nd round pick, coming up. Think they will trade somebody?

Ottawa's in trouble, their once booming prospect list is gone and they no longer have tons of cap space, they are now a cap team. They desperately need a legitimate #1 goalie and may buy out Korpisalo after only 1 year. They have further issues with the Josh Norris contract ( bum shoulders) and they would love to unload Chabot and his heavy contract. It will be a very busy summer for Ottawa, the only guys who I can't see them moving are Tkachuk, Stutzle and Sanderson. I doubt very much that they will even contend for a playoff spot next year.

 

[MrKabukiman]

Swayman was discussed by Ty Anderson this AM on 98.5 and it sounds like the brass is not convinced he is worth the big $$$ at this point.

It will be interesting to see what goes on this summer. I imagine its based on his performance down the stretch and any playoff games he may play in.

 

[Over the volcano]

Ottawa's in trouble, their once booming prospect list is gone and they no longer have tons of cap space, they are now a cap team. They desperately need a legitimate #1 goalie and may buy out Korpisalo after only 1 year. They have further issues with the Josh Norris contract ( bum shoulders) and they would love to unload Chabot and his heavy contract. It will be a very busy summer for Ottawa, the only guys who I can't see them moving are Tkachuk, Stutzle and Sanderson. I doubt very much that they will even contend for a playoff spot next year.

This is what always gives me pause when folks start talking about how the tables will surely turn as younger talented teams will pass the Bruins by while we retool- Seems like every year it's "lookout for Buffalo or New Jersey or Detroit or Ottawa". I mean sure it'll happen eventually but losing and drafting isn't a good plan to start winning.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

I would not worry about a Swayman deal until there is evidence of there being a problem this summer. People freaked out for a month over Pasta and that got done just fine.

 

[Dr Hook]

We kinda do know what Sweeney is thinking though. Like we know for a fact he was actively trying to trade Ullmark at the deadline. We also know that teams called about Swayman and got shut down. Think it's pretty obvious which is getting traded and which is staying, and I don't see that changing unless someone offers something crazy for Swayman.

And now we have a report from Ty Anderson that maybe the Bruins aren't that high on a big dollar contract for Swayman. I never did see where teams were shut down after asking: what's the source for that? Anyway, Ullmark would potentially have more trade value at the deadline anyway given that he has another year left on an affordable contract and is more of a known quantity than Swayman in a starter role. Sweeney willing to move Ullmark for needed help at the TDL is a different scenario than what things will look like in the summer. At any rate, you might be right- we'll know soon enough one way or the other. And again, I am not advocating for Ullmark to stay and Sway to go (though I would be okay with it), just that it is entirely plausible for the Bruins to go that way if circumstances warrant.

 

[ON3M4N]

Assuming next years cap goes up to $87.5 million and signing none of our UFA/RFA's:

Marchand - Coyle - TBD
TBD - Zacha - Pastrnak
Frederic - Poitras - Geekie
Lauko - Beecher - Brazeau

Lindholm - McAvoy
Lohrei - Carlo
Wotherspoon - Peeke

Ullmark
TBD
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According to CF, the Bruins would have $21.5 million in cap space going into the off-season. Say you bring Swayman back at $7 million. That leaves you $14.5 million to fill 5 spots. If Lysell finally makes the jump and fills one of these open winger slots, you now have roughly $13.6 million to fill 4 spots.

 

[dugg133]

And now we have a report from Ty Anderson that maybe the Bruins aren't that high on a big dollar contract for Swayman. I never did see where teams were shut down after asking: what's the source for that? Anyway, Ullmark would potentially have more trade value at the deadline anyway given that he has another year left on an affordable contract and is more of a known quantity than Swayman in a starter role. Sweeney willing to move Ullmark for needed help at the TDL is a different scenario than what things will look like in the summer. At any rate, you might be right- we'll know soon enough one way or the other. And again, I am not advocating for Ullmark to stay and Sway to go (though I would be okay with it), just that it is entirely plausible for the Bruins to go that way if circumstances warrant.

Friedman reported it on 32 Thoughts. He also said that trade talks around Ullmark had gotten to the point where Ullmark himself thought he was getting moved, and that he used his NTC to axe at least one trade, believed to be with LA.

 

[Dr Hook]

This is what always gives me pause when folks start talking about how the tables will surely turn as younger talented teams will pass the Bruins by while we retool- Seems like every year it's "lookout for Buffalo or New Jersey or Detroit or Ottawa". I mean sure it'll happen eventually but losing and drafting isn't a good plan to start winning.

100%- all of the traded away Bruins draft picks over Sweeney's tenure have resulted in what, exactly? We have also heard here for years that the prospect cupboard is bare and the future is bleak, but it hasn't happened yet.

Friedman reported it on 32 Thoughts. He also said that trade talks around Ullmark had gotten to the point where Ullmark himself thought he was getting moved, and that he used his NTC to axe at least one trade, believed to be with LA.

Cool on the Swayman stuff. I did know about Linus of course, but missed the bit on Sway offers getting knocked back. In part I'd bet that the offers were shit, kind of like they were with JDB.

 

[sarge88]

Ottawa's in trouble, their once booming prospect list is gone and they no longer have tons of cap space, they are now a cap team. They desperately need a legitimate #1 goalie and may buy out Korpisalo after only 1 year. They have further issues with the Josh Norris contract ( bum shoulders) and they would love to unload Chabot and his heavy contract. It will be a very busy summer for Ottawa, the only guys who I can't see them moving are Tkachuk, Stutzle and Sanderson. I doubt very much that they will even contend for a playoff spot next year.

Food for thought/discussiion…

What’s the score/outcome if the Bruins and Sens switched goaltenders last night?

 

[wintersej]

Swayman was discussed by Ty Anderson this AM on 98.5 and it sounds like the brass is not convinced he is worth the big $$$ at this point.

It will be interesting to see what goes on this summer. I imagine its based on his performance down the stretch and any playoff games he may play in.

Anderson is probably the head cheerleader of the "trade Swayman instead" crowd. He has a valid point that an RFA 25 year old Swayman would have a lot more trade value than a 30 year old 1 year to UFA Ullmark with a big pile of trade protection. The market for Ullmark might be 1 or 2 teams. The market for Swayman would be much bigger AND he holds more value being 5 years younger. You at least have to listen. But don't listen if it is a pile of maybes and couldbes.

 

[BamBamCam]

100%- all of the traded away Bruins draft picks over Sweeney's tenure have resulted in what, exactly? We have also heard here for years that the prospect cupboard is bare and the future is bleak, but it hasn't happened yet.



Cool on the Swayman stuff. I did know about Linus of course, but missed the bit on Sway offers getting knocked back. In part I'd bet that the offers were shit, kind of like they were with JDB.

Kirill Kaprizov
Mario Ferraro
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Nikita Okhotiuk
and that's not counting Ryan Lindgren or picks from 22 and 23 drafts

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[SPLBRUIN]

Food for thought/discussiion…

What’s the score/outcome if the Bruins and Sens switched goaltenders last night?

Another question, what's the score if the Bruins actually took the Sens seriously like they do against teams like TO. Both Carolina and Boston basically floated through the 1st 2 periods before getting serious in the 3rd and blowing Ottawa out.

 

[Dr Hook]

Kirill Kaprizov
Mario Ferraro
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Nikita Okhotiuk
and that's not counting Ryan Lindgren or picks from 22 and 23 drafts

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You can make a list like that for most any team in the league, though. I am speaking more specifically to all the doom and gloom that has been prevalent among some here for years. If that were all true, the Bruins should have a team like the Sharks by now, or heading that way, and that's not even close to correct.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

And now we have a report from Ty Anderson that maybe the Bruins aren't that high on a big dollar contract for Swayman. I never did see where teams were shut down after asking: what's the source for that? Anyway, Ullmark would potentially have more trade value at the deadline anyway given that he has another year left on an affordable contract and is more of a known quantity than Swayman in a starter role. Sweeney willing to move Ullmark for needed help at the TDL is a different scenario than what things will look like in the summer. At any rate, you might be right- we'll know soon enough one way or the other. And again, I am not advocating for Ullmark to stay and Sway to go (though I would be okay with it), just that it is entirely plausible for the Bruins to go that way if circumstances warrant.

I mean, there are teams that would consider trading an untradable on their roster for a good young keystone player like Swayman.

I love Sway, want him to stay. But if he demands too much hay, then I have no qualms about him getting traded away.

I would love for us to aggressively go after Vegas for Hertl over the summer. Elias Lindholm could be had for a decent but not expensive price, but I think there are other young center options explorable. Don's office must be covered with post-it notes on things to follow up on after the season ends.

 

[dugg133]

I mean, there are teams that would consider trading an untradable on their roster for a good young keystone player like Swayman.

I love Sway, want him to stay. But if he demands too much hay, then I have no qualms about him getting traded away.

I would love for us to aggressively go after Vegas for Hertl over the summer. Elias Lindholm could be had for a decent but not expensive price, but I think there are other young center options explorable. Don's office must be covered with post-it notes on things to follow up on after the season ends.

I think Vegas traded for Hertl to be their long term 2C once Stephenson leaves as a UFA this summer, don't see him as an option anymore.

 

[sarge88]

Another question, what's the score if the Bruins actually took the Sens seriously like they do against teams like TO. Both Carolina and Boston basically floated through the 1st 2 periods before getting serious in the 3rd and blowing Ottawa out.

Agreed…Ottawa is bad. I just wonder how much better Ullmark or a similar quality goalie would make them?

 

[goldnblack]

Assuming next years cap goes up to $87.5 million and signing none of our UFA/RFA's:

Marchand - Coyle - TBD
TBD - Zacha - Pastrnak
Frederic - Poitras - Geekie
Lauko - Beecher - Brazeau

Lindholm - McAvoy
Lohrei - Carlo
Wotherspoon - Peeke

Ullmark
TBD
​

According to CF, the Bruins would have $21.5 million in cap space going into the off-season. Say you bring Swayman back at $7 million. That leaves you $14.5 million to fill 5 spots. If Lysell finally makes the jump and fills one of these open winger slots, you now have roughly $13.6 million to fill 4 spots.

That 3rd line of yours with 3 C's on it, they won't do. And probably Heinen as a Bruin and Poitras in Providence.