Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[OrrNumber4]

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Shout out to Eklund. He's had a really good start to this season and looking at the stats and hockeyviz stuff, he's arguably the best of the 2021 draft class so far this year. Such a responsible two way winger and there's most likely another level to his offensive game. Love his trajectory so far.

DW jr good?

 

[Hodge]

DW jr good?

Don't look up Brandt Clarke's stats.

 

[Patty Ice]

Don't look up Brandt Clarke's stats.

I was gonna say.

Guenther is having himself a season as well.

 

[Hodge]

I was gonna say.

Guenther is having himself a season as well.

Also let's not forget that according to a Buffalo Sabres behind the scenes draft video, we turned down an offer of Sam Reinhart and the 14th pick for pick 7.

 

[TheBeard]

Also let's not forget that according to a Buffalo Sabres behind the scenes draft video, we turned down an offer of Sam Reinhart and the 14th pick for pick 7.

What would Sam have done for us? It would have been a bad trade

 

[Hodge]

What would Sam have done for us? It would have been a bad trade

Played on our top line for a decade? He was only 25 at the time. Plus we would have still gotten the 14th pick (likely taking Wallstedt) out of it.

 

[TheBeard]

Played on our top line for a decade? He was only 25 at the time. Plus we would have still gotten the 14th pick (likely taking Wallstedt) out of it.

If we do that then the team probably doesn't trade Timo and then we're in a way worse position.

 

[Hodge]

If we do that then the team probably doesn't trade Timo and then we're in a way worse position.

Or Grier could have decided to trade Timo and Reinhart (and gotten a haul). It would have still been a good trade in terms of value IMO.

 

[cheechoo]

Trouba a worthwhile gamble? Pluck an asset (re-Walman)

I looked into his underlying metrics and they weren't as awful as I was expecting.

Good skating physical 6'3 RHD that brings a tonne of leadership and swagger/confidence to empower our young guys.

JFresh card doesn't like him but so far this season amongst their top 6 D he's ranked--

2nd in expected GA/60 only behind K Miller
4th in HDCA
4th in SCA/60

He is riding favorable PDO, but that's compounded with the lowest rates of OZone starts on the team. He tanks tough match-ups and does okay against them. Also the risk of a <2 year deal is mitigatable.

Would help with the LHD/RHD disparity heading into next season as well with some permutation of (RHD): Liljegren, Trouba, Thompson | (LHD): Walman, Ferraro, Cagnoni/Mukhamadullin

Although, maybe he isn't down. Allegedly rejected the chance to go to Detroit last summer.

 

[TheBeard]

Or Grier could have decided to trade Timo and Reinhart (and gotten a haul). It would have still been a good trade in terms of value IMO.

Reinharts numbers would have been on par with what he was doing in Buffalo (20-25 goals) than what he was doing on a stacked Florida team. Maybe we end up with a late first and a B prospect as a rental last year because no way he re-signs with the sharks.

 

[ChompChomp]

Trouba a worthwhile gamble? Pluck an asset (re-Walman)

I looked into his underlying metrics and they weren't as awful as I was expecting.

Good skating physical 6'3 RHD that brings a tonne of leadership and swagger/confidence to empower our young guys.

JFresh card doesn't like him but so far this season amongst their top 6 D he's ranked--

2nd in expected GA/60 only behind K Miller
4th in HDCA
4th in SCA/60

He is riding favorable PDO, but that's compounded with the lowest rates of OZone starts on the team. He tanks tough match-ups and does okay against them. Also the risk of a <2 year deal is mitigatable.

Would help with the LHD/RHD disparity heading into next season as well with some permutation of (RHD): Liljegren, Trouba, Thompson | (LHD): Walman, Ferraro, Cagnoni/Mukhamadullin

Although, maybe he isn't down. Allegedly rejected the chance to go to Detroit last summer.

Trouba has been discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Do a search and read pages and pages on it.

I will just remind everyone, again, that Trouba's wife has a medical residency in NY. They don't want to go anywhere right now. When that residency ends, maybe, but for now he has been clear he doesn't want to move. He's on an M-NTC right now, and I'm sure that includes SJ. He'd have to waive the NTC, but for those personal reasons, it's not happening. He could be waived right now and the Sharks claim, but right now the Sharks actually don't have enough cap space for him.

It's only realistic to consider Trouba to the Sharks when he becomes a UFA in the 2026 offseason. Then I'm sure we'll get a ton of discussion as to whether the Sharks should sign him as a "veteran presence" or something.