Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Alaskanice]

Kris Russell was also a terrible defenseman and played in the league for a decently long time, hence the comparison

The biggest comparison between the two is their shot-blocking ability. Both are known for it. Makes both quite valuable to teams.

 

[coooldude]

Every NHLer is a hockey god compared to regular humans or even good hockey players.

That's not why we're on this message board, or at least not many of us.

If people say someone is terrible, I generally understand them to mean "terrible in relation to other NHLers." The bigger problem on HFB is that people project prospects to their ceiling, then get disappointed when they "bust" into merely hockey demi-gods in the AHL, or people shamelessly attack players as awful trash that they were obsessing over just a few years prior, before we had the reality of the NHL set in.

As it pertains to Ferraro, he's not terrible, but he definitely was bad compared to his peers last year. Maybe he has a solid role on a better team, maybe not, it's all speculation. On our team, we need him to play in a top pairing or second pairing role, and last year he struggled. Hopefully this year he'll be better but it's unlikely he'll all of a sudden become a completely different player.

 

[DG93]

Every NHLer is a hockey god compared to regular humans or even good hockey players.

That's not why we're on this message board, or at least not many of us.

If people say someone is terrible, I generally understand them to mean "terrible in relation to other NHLers." The bigger problem on HFB is that people project prospects to their ceiling, then get disappointed when they "bust" into merely hockey demi-gods in the AHL, or people shamelessly attack players as awful trash that they were obsessing over just a few years prior, before we had the reality of the NHL set in.

As it pertains to Ferraro, he's not terrible, but he definitely was bad compared to his peers last year. Maybe he has a solid role on a better team, maybe not, it's all speculation. On our team, we need him to play in a top pairing or second pairing role, and last year he struggled. Hopefully this year he'll be better but it's unlikely he'll all of a sudden become a completely different player.

Good point. Maybe in a bottom pairing at even strength + PK role, Ferraro would actually be solid. But what we know from watching him the past 3 years is that he absolutely gets crushed in a top pair (and even 2nd pair) role.

 

[Cas]

If he was a terrible defenseman, he wouldn’t be starting his 6 th season in the best league on Earth.
His track record supersedes your opinion of him.

He's spent all five of his previous seasons so far with one of the worst teams in the history of the sport.

The biggest comparison between the two is their shot-blocking ability. Both are known for it. Makes both quite valuable to teams.

Many players who block tons of shots are doing so because they cannot obtain or retain possession of the puck, or clear it out of the zone reliably, so they just get peppered with shots.

Blocking lots of shots is often a sign that a player is bad, not good.

 

[Alaskanice]

He's spent all five of his previous seasons so far with one of the worst teams in the history of the sport.


Many players who block tons of shots are doing so because they cannot obtain or retain possession of the puck, or clear it out of the zone reliably, so they just get peppered with shots.

Blocking lots of shots is often a sign that a player is bad, not good.

I have no doubt that many in the profession of hockey would disagree with that.

 

[Hodge]

Seider, Tanev, McNabb, Parayko, Weegar and Matt Roy blocked even more shots than Ferraro did last season. Those guys must really suck ass.

 

[Cas]

I have no doubt that many in the profession of hockey would disagree with that.

That's fine, I don't care. There are plenty of people in professional sports who believe totally bonkers things about their own sport.

 

[Anomie2029]

All I'm saying is the Sharks should have traded Ferraro last year when some people in the league thought he was worth something.

 

[OrrNumber4]

With all the youngsters who should be debuting on the ice over the next two seasons, (Mukhamadullin, Cagnoni, Thrun, Dickinson, etc.) Ferraro, Benning, and Walman are not a bad veteran group to support those players.

 

[TheBeard]

Many players who block tons of shots are doing so because they cannot obtain or retain possession of the puck, or clear it out of the zone reliably, so they just get peppered with shots.

Blocking lots of shots is often a sign that a player is bad, not good.

I think that’s a pretty unfair assessment to make about him considering he was miles, MILES better than a vast majority of the 4 other players out there with him during those times. Why people tend to only want to single him out has always been one of the weirdest narratives on the sharks board. I never understood it other than people’s minds are made up so they choose to only look for the things to back up those opinions.

 

[OrrNumber4]

I think that’s a pretty unfair assessment to make about him considering he was miles, MILES better than a vast majority of the 4 other players out there with him during those times. Why people tend to only want to single him out has always been one of the weirdest narratives on the sharks board. I never understood it other than people’s minds are made up so they choose to only look for the things to back up those opinions.

There's nothing that cuts a fan more than a prospect who doesn't live up to her unrealistic expectations...