Nathan Todd was put on waivers for contract termination. Opens up a contract slot that some people had concerns about as it related to re-signing Bordeleau.
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hohosaregood
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Would be a bad move IMO still considering how weak we are on the backend. Offer would have to be astronomically high.
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Pagnotta is the original source and he’s terrible so take that with a grain of salt.
I do, but I'm also not oblivious to the fact that while some here see Ferraro as nothing more than a body, there's consistently reports popping up about playoff teams interested in his services.
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Ferraro is a okay second pair dman that plays a style that teams covet. He really is only a body to us that can be thrown to the wolves. I highly doubt he’s here long term.
With all that said, they won’t move him without someone either massively overpaying or them getting a replacement D that is close to the same level (whether in that trade of FA)
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Ryan Reaves has been on thirteen consecutive playoff teams, and four different ones in the last four years. Despite that, he hasn't won a Cup.
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I'm saying that just because playoff teams want a player doesn't make that player any good. Reaves is terrible, yet playoff teams want him because they think that a terrible player who hits and chirps people has value. Not one of those playoff teams has won a Cup with Reaves, of course, because Reaves is terrible and management that thinks Reaves or a player of his ilk is going to magically change their fortunes is probably management that can't see the forest for the trees.
Ferraro is better than Reaves - he actually belongs on an NHL roster, for one - but he's still not actually very good and his services being in demand doesn't actually mean he's better than he seems, rather than that his services are being overrated.
Ferraro is replaceable. If we can get a package that will speed up our rebuild for him, all the better.
If the offer includes a late 1st round pick, I'm pretty well onboard for that. You want that third 1st round pick? Ferraro would be a great guy to make that happen with.
If either of Chicago (by way of the Islanders), Nashville, or Toronto are willing to give up their 1st this year. That's 18, 22, or 23. If that's on the table with Ferraro going back, do it. Hell, if Toronto wants Kunin too give him and Ferraro for 23 and that's a huge win.
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TealManV
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Agreed. If you can turn Ferraro into EJ Emery while clearing out an LD spot and some cap space, that would be a win imo.
Teams wanted Reaves for all the wrong reasons. The Rangers signed him because of the Tom Wilson fiasco. Toronto signed him for... well no one knows why.
Ferraro is someone teams covet because he's actually a valuable contributor on the ice.
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We can get a late 1st for Ferraro at the 2026 trade deadline. It needs to be more than that if we're moving him now, especially with the cap going up which makes Ferraro's contract even more valuable.
For everything he does, having him under contract at 2.5 for two more years is one of the better contracts in the league.
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3.25. It's not long enough to truly be considered one of the better contracts in the league but it's a bargain even if you only consider Ferraro a #4 defenseman. By the final year of the contract it may be a bargain for a #5.
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I'm not convinced that Ferraro is particularly valuable, so I think teams who want him also want him for the wrong reasons too (he blocks lots of shots, in part because he's not good at getting possession of the puck or getting it out of the zone, so there are a lot of shots for him to block; basically, I think hes faux-physical and just generates a ton of zero calorie events).
Ferraro is a weak half of a bottom pairing guy, and when the deadline comes around, he's a guy you look at upgrading from. I think he's grossly overpaid for his actual value and if someone offered us a 1st for him, we should be ecstatic because we're taking our trade partner to the cleaners.
It's not long enough but I'll stand by my statement at 3.25 he's one of the better bargains. He's not even in the top 100 D-men in terms of AAV and 288th overall.
I disagree with practically everything you said, but that's opinions for ya. A lot of what you blame him for is akin to blaming Eklund for Kunin not finishing his passes.
What else would you want for him? I don't understand why anyone would believe getting more than a late 1st round pick is all that feasible nor a justification for believing he's worth more than that. He's lucky if he's actually worth a late 1st. I also don't think he's a long term option for our rebuild either.
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Not that much more but maybe a late 1st + 3rd + B-level prospect. It's worth waiting until after July 1st to see if we can get a bidding war going once teams see the price tags for free agent defensemen.
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